Funny you should say that. I posted somewhere about how the wire is retained in the Millens, either on this forum, or another. I had only seen photos of them and the male connector seemed very short with little outer cable outer insulation "within" the connector. Now they have physically arrived I see they rely solely on a soldered connection to the conductor holding about an eighth of an inch of double sheathed outer insulation within the body of the plug. Now, it doesn't take much to pull a cable so the outer moves an eighth of an inch relative to the inner, exposing the conductor, does it? Nor to break the inner conductor and have the then unrestrained HV cable flailing about. Not what I fancy with 5kV at near two Amps flowing ..... I have got some proper HV connectors and sockets on order. They say one learns, or should learn, from ones mistakes. i don't fancy a 5kV mistake, I;'ll put the price down to experience. thanks for the info on the relays, and the heads up on the Millens!