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N2RJ

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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2014, 09:09:21 AM »

Didn't even realize they were on but I'll try when I get home tonight. #312 for me.
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« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2014, 09:11:26 AM »

I've heard them well but only on SSB.  They're on CW on bands where I don't have good propagation.  Missed 15 CW yesterday due to being at work.  Hope to hear some good old-fashioned 10/15/20 CW soon.
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« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2014, 09:36:30 AM »

They're 59 here in Northern Illinois on both 10/12m.   

Problem is the "Kilocycle Kops" are causing more problems by saying "Up, Up, Up !".  These guys are part of the problem rather than the solution.  Because they keep talking on DX frequency, stations calling can't here responses from DX so they keep calling and that generates a BIGGER pileup !  All the Kilocycle Kops are doing is getting in way and slowing down the pileup.

As long as I been a ham, this has been a problem, but it only seems to get worse. It's gone steadily down hill with the big, rare DX locations.  On 12m this morning, things deteriorated into name calling and other negative stuff.  One guy called another a "CBer" and the bands are really turning into "Children's Bands" with this sort of behavior.  These "Kilocycle Kops" are operating illegally because they don't ID, which is a violation according to Part 97.

If you're guilty of being a "Kilocycle Kop", perhaps you should examine your motives for QRMing the DX  or just join the group on 14335 !

End of rant.

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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2014, 09:39:24 AM »

Nothing but noise at this QTH. It's not going to be as easy for some of us. Just trying to keep the thread realistic for readers with smaller stations and antennas.
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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2014, 09:46:24 AM »

Yes, I agree. With nearly over 5kW ERP and a Yagi at 85' I'm not being heard even on his 12m QSX--he was working a deep pile on one frequency, I was there and listening, calling with 1500W out the pipe and not a chance. 10m was fairly easy this morning, but 12....not so much. A 25kHz deep SSB pile, with a solid wall of Euro QRM and cops making it impossible for now. I'll try it next week, but I doubt it will be better. No way they're going to satisfy worldwide demand in 12 days, that's absolute.

Glad I got in when I did, cuz this is turning ugly fast. The problem is he's calling NA and 80% of the callers are Europeans who just won't STFU. I don't envy the ops in the slightest. They're trying their best to limit it to NA but no dice....EU just won't stop.
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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2014, 09:57:57 AM »

Nothing but noise at this QTH. It's not going to be as easy for some of us. Just trying to keep the thread realistic for readers with smaller stations and antennas.

I'm glad I spent the effort to build a triband wire beam just for this operation.  They're adequately loud on it.  They are generally undetectable on my old doublet.  I am not confident of working them but at least I might have a shot.  Good luck to the little pistols.
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« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2014, 10:02:32 AM »

I'm glad I spent the effort to build a triband wire beam just for this operation. 

Wow. Well, I do pretty well a lot of the time, if I stick it out. What I lack in equipment I make up for with patience.  ;)

First things first though, I need to hear the person at the other end for starters ...
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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2014, 10:03:50 AM »

On 12m I couldn't hear the EU callers.  They get covered up by the stronger NA callers.  However I could tell the Op was having difficulties hearing calls.  Like you said 10m was easy compared to 12m.  The pileups will eventually thin out with time.  I will try again later this afternoon.

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« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2014, 10:12:21 AM »

I'm glad I spent the effort to build a triband wire beam just for this operation. 

Wow. Well, I do pretty well a lot of the time, if I stick it out. What I lack in equipment I make up for with patience.  ;)

First things first though, I need to hear the person at the other end for starters ...

What I don't understand is why they're not louder.  3B9FR, 3B8CF, 5R8M and FR/DJ7RJ have all been very loud on the same bands over the last week.  I wouldn't have thought the dip in the SFI would've made that much difference.  I wonder if they are having some sort of trouble.
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« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2014, 10:16:30 AM »

Same mess on 12 meters here but he's no longer asking for just NA so it's worldwide QRM.  The frequency cops aren't only on SSB and CW but they are very bad on 15 RTTY.

Well, I have worked them on 10 and 20 SSB so I may take the weekend off.  I'll work them on CW when they use 10, 15 or 20 and that's all I really need.

Good luck to those who need this for ATNO.

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« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2014, 10:17:49 AM »

I'm glad I spent the effort to build a triband wire beam just for this operation. 

Wow. Well, I do pretty well a lot of the time, if I stick it out. What I lack in equipment I make up for with patience.  ;)

First things first though, I need to hear the person at the other end for starters ...

What I don't understand is why they're not louder.  3B9FR, 3B8CF, 5R8M and FR/DJ7RJ have all been very loud on the same bands over the last week.  I wouldn't have thought the dip in the SFI would've made that much difference.  I wonder if they are having some sort of trouble.

They are very loud here.  What band or bands are you referring to?

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« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2014, 10:20:10 AM »

I'm glad I spent the effort to build a triband wire beam just for this operation. 

Wow. Well, I do pretty well a lot of the time, if I stick it out. What I lack in equipment I make up for with patience.  ;)

First things first though, I need to hear the person at the other end for starters ...

What I don't understand is why they're not louder.  3B9FR, 3B8CF, 5R8M and FR/DJ7RJ have all been very loud on the same bands over the last week.  I wouldn't have thought the dip in the SFI would've made that much difference.  I wonder if they are having some sort of trouble.

They are very loud here.  What band or bands are you referring to?



10 and 20 meters SSB.  No doubt they are quite loud if you have a FB antenna system.  I was drawing a distinction between the signals I'd heard from FT, and from those other nearby entities, on the same bands/antenna in recent days.  Relative loudness, not absolute, I guess.
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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2014, 10:21:33 AM »

I will try again later this afternoon.

Propagation is already going out to the east coast on 12. Band will be closed to NA this afternoon (our time). Until the op restricts callers by continent again (and makes it stick), only folks with stacks and guys with 5k+ are getting in the log at this point. Probably the first DXpedition I will not get on more than 4 or 5 bands, given their rarity, distance and the fact we fight the EU wall on every band all the time. 100W/wire guys....well, good luck. Probably not happening anywhere except the last few days on 15 or 20.
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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2014, 10:40:47 AM »

From NW Florida I made contact for an ATNO today (~1700Z) via 10 meter SSB.  :D Operating with a hexagonal beam and about 600 watts, I got through after I made about a dozen or so calls. The FT4TA operator and signal (~S 5/6) were good. I don't normally have a problem making contact with that area in the Indian Ocean near the east coast of Africa. If I can contact FT4TA via CW, I'll be content.
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RE: FT4TA Tromelin dxpedition
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2014, 11:13:54 AM »

The op on 10m SSB this morning was making several QSOs on the same QSX before moving on. He also seemed to prefer frequencies near even multiples of 5 KHz, e.g. 28490, 28495, 28500, 28505.

It took about an hour to get through, with 3 elements at 80' and ~1200 watts. #332 on 10m.

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               Dave, AA6YQ (near Boston, MA)
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