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Title: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: WA2ONH on October 14, 2022, 06:50:38 AM
NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
From the FCC website ...
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-new-5-year-rule-deorbiting-satellites

FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
TO ADDRESS GROWING RISK OF ORBITAL DEBRIS

PRESS NOTICE: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-387720A1.pdf

WASHINGTON, September 29, 2022—The Federal Communications Commission today
adopted new rules requiring satellite operators in low-Earth orbit to dispose of their satellites
within 5 years of completing their missions. The new rules shorten the decades-old 25-year
guideline for deorbiting satellites post-mission, taking an important step in a new era for space
safety and orbital debris policy.
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From the CNN.Com news site ...
Out-of-service satellites must be removed within 5 years, FCC says
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/29/tech/fcc-five-year-satellite-deadline-scn/index.html
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Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: WA3SKN on October 23, 2022, 10:05:48 AM
"within 5 years of completing their missions."
After the satellite is no longer being used means a lot.

-Mike.
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: SWMAN on October 24, 2022, 05:00:02 AM
 It looks like you have to go back up into space and get your trash and bring it back to earth. We have enough trash here already. Doesn’t make much sense.
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: W6BP on October 25, 2022, 11:41:20 AM
It looks like you have to go back up into space and get your trash and bring it back to earth. We have enough trash here already. Doesn’t make much sense.

It makes plenty of sense when the alternative is having your new zillion-dollar telecom satellite slam into a piece of space junk and be put out of commission. And you don't have to go into space to retrieve the junk; just provide a mechanism for deorbiting it so it burns up in the atmosphere.

Our parents taught us to clean up after ourselves. It's not exactly a controversial idea.
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: KH6AQ on October 25, 2022, 12:44:57 PM
It looks like you have to go back up into space and get your trash and bring it back to earth. We have enough trash here already. Doesn’t make much sense.

This paper describes methods to deorbit LEOs. The satellite is forced to enter the earth's atmosphere and burn up.

"Many proposed solutions:
 Chemical propulsion
 Electric propulsion
 Electrodynamic tethers
 Drag augmentation"

http://www.unisec-global.org/ddc/pdf/DeOrbit_whs.pdf
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: K5LXP on October 27, 2022, 05:39:00 AM
International Space Station swerves to avoid Russian space debris

The station fired its thrusters for 5 minutes and 5 seconds in what NASA called a "Pre-Determined Debris Avoidance Maneuver" at 8:25 p.m. ET

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/world/iss-maneuver-russia-space-junk-scn/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/world/iss-maneuver-russia-space-junk-scn/index.html)

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: VE3WGO on March 09, 2023, 07:29:59 AM
it's a good thing AO-7 recovered after sleeping for 21 years.

73, Ed
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: SWMAN on March 09, 2023, 07:35:44 AM
 Just increase speed to warp factor nine, that’s what Captain Kirk would do in this situation.
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: KG4RUL on March 09, 2023, 10:31:40 AM
Left unsaid is, what happens when you send the de-orbit command and nothing happens?  Are there penalties?
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: K9JKM on March 11, 2023, 07:49:08 AM
This NASA's report on the matter ... (well, there are lots of reports but this one is from March 10) ...
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/otps_-_cost_and_benefit_analysis_of_orbital_debris_remediation_-_final.pdf
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: KG4RUL on March 11, 2023, 08:35:50 AM
This NASA's report on the matter ... (well, there are lots of reports but this one is from March 10) ...
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/otps_-_cost_and_benefit_analysis_of_orbital_debris_remediation_-_final.pdf

It presents unproven cost estimates but, it does not address who is actually on the hook for the cost. 

In the case of a privately launched cubesat, the price to get it in to orbit is around $600K.  Does the satellite owner have to pay for remediation if it cannot be successfully de-orbited?  And, how much would that cost be?  Would this make such launches economically unfeasible?  Too many unanswered questions!
Title: Re: NEWS: FCC ADOPTS NEW ‘5-YEAR RULE’ FOR DEORBITING SATELLITES
Post by: KF6QEX on March 11, 2023, 11:40:06 AM
All these decades  everyone's crystal ball was broken and couldn't tell the future regarding "space debris" but could certainly predict future earnings!!!

New rules will fix that. Fer shure!!!