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Title: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA1CDE on February 05, 2012, 04:24:37 AM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS

We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........

I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........



Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: K9JCS on February 05, 2012, 09:50:57 AM
Can you tell us a little bit more about this transaction?  Was it on EBAY, EHAM, QRZ or something else?

Sounds like you lost a nice rig and other gear. I would be mad, too.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KI4SDY on February 06, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
I doubt he refurbished his shack. He probably sold the equipment the next day so the evidence isn't in his possession. If the cops come, his next story will be he never received your equipment. Does the Postal Service have a record of delivery and did you require a signature?
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N5VTU on February 06, 2012, 08:36:18 PM
"Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others,..."



Sorry to hear about this, but if you were under the impression that this ham has ripped so many others off, why did you do business with him?  ???

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: MAGNUM257 on February 11, 2012, 06:07:15 PM


found this on another ham website...looks like the ic7000 found a home.





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 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of W6HFS Donald Pinson Orting Washington  

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I just had a trade with Don for my Flex-1000 for his new IC-7000.
I never figured anyone would actually give me a IC-7000 for a flex-1000, let alone a new ICOM Ic-7000. Don sent me a scan of the sales slip and, I called to verify he had bought it and I was told he did buy it from them so, I went through with the deal. Don shipped when he said he would and, sent me the shipping slips from the U.S. postal service. I like doing it this way because if there is something wrong, I would be able to put a stop ship from my post office.
I also opened the two packages just to be sure in front of the postal worker in case there was a issue.

I am glad you went with your gut feeling as I did and, verified what you thought you were getting.
 
 
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: K7EDL on February 13, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
If you sent your gear through the post office make a copy of all emails etc and file a complaint with the postal inspectors. a knock on the door from a fed has suddenly straightened out more than one problem. thats why I always ship usps and pay with postal money orders on anything big.

73

Eric
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W5DQ on February 14, 2012, 10:49:34 AM
I'm sorry you got ripped off but in this day and age of cheats by the bucket load, anyone who would take an unknown person's word - regardless if they are a ham or not - that they are going to 'trade' gear sight unseen through the mail and then have you ship your gear to them without so much as any collateral in hand deserves to be taken to the cleaners.

In many instances, the time of fair trading via the mail with another person - ham or not - is long dead. I would not send so much as a thank you note to another person unless 1) I knew them personally and trusted them, 2) had developed a repoire with them to the poiint I felt like it was safe to do so or 3) had some secure way of protecting my investment such as a bonded certified brokerage to handle the deal.

If this had happened to me, I'd be on a trip the cheat's house to extract my gear from his possession or take fair market value from his hide!!!!

Gene W5DQ
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: K7SON on March 03, 2012, 04:04:46 PM
I agree. Mail fraud and if you don't persue it he will take others as well. I live near that town but I see no info for his call on QRZ (another indication of troouble?)..Sorry, hate to see it happen...K
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W6EM on March 08, 2012, 06:11:08 PM
So, the accused shows up.  Your version of the story?  Ever done this before? 
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N2ZD on March 08, 2012, 11:17:09 PM

  Hey Don,

  Did you have it insured? Did you have a tracking number? Proof of delivery or signature request? These are basic things which can resolve these matters easily and save your reputation and the hassle of defending it, plus the guy can get paid for his gear thru insurance.

  Did it all go in one box or more? I find it hard to believe that all of that gear plus an antenna would fit in one box. Both boxes were lost? 3 boxes were lost or was it one jumbo box? How did the post office lose a huge box like that?

  Call the post office to get the insurance $, or admit you screwed up and make it right with the trader.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: AD6KA on March 10, 2012, 10:40:53 AM
This is mail fraud which is a Federal offense. I would press the case with your local DA and also the DA in this guys area and also the post office.

Since the alleged con man is in another state,
the victim's local DA can do nothing, as the crime
happened outside his jurisdiction.

Yes, since it involves the mail and an interstate transaction,
it is a matter for the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.
Gather every single scrap of evidence you have about
this transaction. Print out emails (WITH the COMPLETE headers,
for IP tracing purposes), any receipts from the Post Office,
sit down and try to remember and write down all that was said in
any telephone conversations with the crook, if any.

Try to find a legal advocate/advisor to help you.
This does not need to be an attorney. It could be a crime
victims advocates group, a free legal help group, or a third year law
student.  These groups do not charge you money and can
be wonderful sources of information.  

Yes, there were a lot of things the poster could and should
have done differently to protect himself for this deal.
That does not excuse anyone, especially a fellow ham,
posting that he "deserves" to be taken to the cleaners.

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA1CDE on March 10, 2012, 02:54:54 PM
Don Pinson   W6HFS   He says the Icom was lost somewhere in the postal service, but the postal service told me and the local police, that there is no trace of any package even being shipped. Don had $500 insurance on this radio, Yeah he paid about $20 for a piece of paper that says he paid for shipping and insurance, but the $20 he paid, I guess it bought him all my equipment>>>>> The post office to give him a dime, "because there is no evidence it ever made it to any post office........Hummm So where did it go ?
The local police working and Pierce County Sheriff department have been calling him and visiting him......Each time they talk to Don, He talks to me saying he is going to send money, then send me a Heathkit, he said he has to wait for social security check to send it....when I ask where is it....No answer......I see him selling radio equipment no on Craigslist in Seattle WA.
An ALS 500 mobile amp.....   OH  Why don't Don just send my stuff back ???
He says he can't he sold all that stuff right away...he told me he wanted it for mobile operation, ready to go, I guess he meant for someone else, I thought he meant him.....

How does Don do it ?   Well he likes to offer less than half the money of what he stole, if you will just say everything is fine and remove all your postings, less than half price of what he owes, he may find a way to pay something>>>

So Don, No I don't want a just a piece, less than half of what he owe me, I won't pull my posting for a few bucks, so for all you others, this is how Don Pinson tries to get unfavorable postings removed....BEWARE.  NICE Business huh...

Yes I did file a Internet Crime Report.

Yes I did file a RIPPED OFF REPORT

YES I Did call the postal inspector

Yes I did file a report with my local police

Yes I did file a report with Piece County Police Department.

And , Yes I have traded with many other hams, this is the only time I was ripped off

Lesson learned, only use pay pal, it may cost a few bucks, but you have a recourse to get your money back....better than nothing....or trade face to face.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: AD6KA on March 13, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
Quote
Yes I did file a Internet Crime Report.

Yes I did file a RIPPED OFF REPORT

YES I Did call the postal inspector

Yes I did file a report with my local police

Yes I did file a report with Piece County Police Department.
Good deal Patrick:

Now if I were in your shoes, I would be sure to
FOLLOW UP with these LE guys by contacting them
WEEKLY and asking for a progress report. They have
a lot of cases to handle, but the squeaky wheel gets the oil!

Good luck to you.
73, Ken  AD6KA
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NA0DP on March 14, 2012, 04:16:00 PM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS

We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........

I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........




did not steal your items the radio I sent was lost by usps not my fault

  Hey Don,

  Did you have it insured? Did you have a tracking number? Proof of delivery or signature request? These are basic things which can resolve these matters easily and save your reputation and the hassle of defending it, plus the guy can get paid for his gear thru insurance.

  Did it all go in one box or more? I find it hard to believe that all of that gear plus an antenna would fit in one box. Both boxes were lost? 3 boxes were lost or was it one jumbo box? How did the post office lose a huge box like that?

  Call the post office to get the insurance $, or admit you screwed up and make it right with the trader.
it was only a icom 7000 and yes it fit in one box
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NA0DP on March 14, 2012, 04:18:01 PM


found this on another ham website...looks like the ic7000 found a home.





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 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of W6HFS Donald Pinson Orting Washington  

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I just had a trade with Don for my Flex-1000 for his new IC-7000.
I never figured anyone would actually give me a IC-7000 for a flex-1000, let alone a new ICOM Ic-7000. Don sent me a scan of the sales slip and, I called to verify he had bought it and I was told he did buy it from them so, I went through with the deal. Don shipped when he said he would and, sent me the shipping slips from the U.S. postal service. I like doing it this way because if there is something wrong, I would be able to put a stop ship from my post office.
I also opened the two packages just to be sure in front of the postal worker in case there was a issue.

I am glad you went with your gut feeling as I did and, verified what you thought you were getting.
 
 
I purchased a total of 3 7000's and this was N O T  the one shipped to Pat
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W5DQ on March 15, 2012, 01:22:24 PM
To send any piece of ham gear via ANY menas without insurance, tracking, registered, or means to prove and verify it was delivered to said shipper in sound undamaged condition and turned over to their control, is pure nonsense.  The last 2 posts makes the deal smell like a fishing boat on a hot day.

So what's the status of this 'crime drama'? Is Don handcuffed and off to the pokey for mail fraud? Did the OP get any money or gear back? Has anyone else been taken by ol' Donny boy?

We're waiting for this week's episode ..... without commercial interruptions!!

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NA0DP on March 15, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
To send any piece of ham gear via ANY menas without insurance, tracking, registered, or means to prove and verify it was delivered to said shipper in sound undamaged condition and turned over to their control, is pure nonsense.  The last 2 posts makes the deal smell like a fishing boat on a hot day.

So what's the status of this 'crime drama'? Is Don handcuffed and off to the pokey for mail fraud? Did the OP get any money or gear back? Has anyone else been taken by ol' Donny boy?

We're waiting for this week's episode ..... without commercial interruptions!!

No I am still here and yes one man has been refunded for 1000 dollars I am working on those I actually owe
Don

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Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NA0DP on March 15, 2012, 01:58:02 PM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS

We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........

I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
no stolen equipment just lost by post office for which I will not be held accountable for once it is in there hands it's their baby




Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NA0DP on March 15, 2012, 02:14:01 PM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS

We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........
No I am still here and yes one man has been refunded for 1000 dollars I am working on those I actually owe
Don


I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........




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Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NA0DP on March 15, 2012, 02:16:19 PM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS

We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........

No I am still here and yes one man has been refunded for 1000 dollars I am working on those I actually owe
Don



I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........




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Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KB1TXK on March 16, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
Methinks your interwebs is a bit broken...
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W0BKR on July 10, 2012, 05:29:47 AM
So, if you sent the 7000, where is it?  If it is lost, where is the other ops money from the claim to pay him back for all the gear you got in the one sided "trade">
Still not seeing any resolution here....me smells a herring...
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W5DQ on July 10, 2012, 08:55:46 AM
So, if you sent the 7000, where is it?  If it is lost, where is the other ops money from the claim to pay him back for all the gear you got in the one sided "trade">
Still not seeing any resolution here....me smells a herring...

Exactly! 7 months have past and no report of the US Postal Service Inspectors being called in. No report of a fraudulent postal transaction filed with the PO or local police on either end of the transaction. No resolution in the foreseeable future it appears yet still to this day, bellyaching about how each was ripped off by the other.

Lesson for all you boys and girls out there .... never I repeat NEVER ship any gear to anyone unless you have a certified (and BONDED) broker in the middle of it (expect to pay FEES for this service) or you get hard cash money up front - not just a Paypal transaction as that is risky too. The payment can be recalled once you've shipped the gear and they receive it - how this possible is beyond me but read the reports - happens all the time using Paypal.

If you want secure transactions, get face to face and exchange goods for cash. No issues there and if any problems later, should be easily resolved.

I personally would not send a radio to Mother Teresa unless she had not already paid in cash!! The days of trusting your fellow ham on a swap or deal are long, LONG gone!!!!! Caveat Emptor!!!!

Gene W5DQ
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA1CDE on July 10, 2012, 01:58:21 PM
 Don Pinson has changed his call sign for some unknown reason ?   His new FCC Call is

AA7DP       So he can change his call to AA7DP, but don't be fooled by Don Pinson> Its really  aka W6HFS

I never got my radio equipment back, the police in Orting Washington are to busy with other crimes they told than to chase after every internet rip off.   But they did go and visit Don, each time they did, Don would call and say he would make things right, but after several days Don would forget about he told me and the police.

He would actually chuckle and say he would have  send my stuff back but he sold it all.

So beware, Please learn from my mistakes don't deal with AA7DP     Don Pinson AKA W6hfs
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA1CDE on July 10, 2012, 02:03:55 PM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS aka AA7DP


We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........

I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........




Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W8JI on September 14, 2012, 07:42:03 PM
So, if you sent the 7000, where is it?  If it is lost, where is the other ops money from the claim to pay him back for all the gear you got in the one sided "trade">
Still not seeing any resolution here....me smells a herring...

Exactly! 7 months have past and no report of the US Postal Service Inspectors being called in. No report of a fraudulent postal transaction filed with the PO or local police on either end of the transaction. No resolution in the foreseeable future it appears yet still to this day, bellyaching about how each was ripped off by the other.

Depending on the postal inspectors or police is not likely to work well today.

A local nut-case who has a long history of harassing local people sent my wife irritant-laced things in the mail, and he used my identity to purchase "gifts" he sent to me. He clearly signed my name on a signature card for gold. It doesn't fit fraud because he sent the stuff I didn't want to me, it only constitutes identity theft.

The GBI was too loaded to look at anything, and local sheriff Larry Waller's crew (we are about to change sheriffs), who that nut-case campaigned for, wouldn't do anything. I was forced to handle it in a civil suit out of my pocket.

The guy is still harassing me even while in a suit that is taking years to process. Heck, he "accidentally" killed his own son's and ex-wife's dogs by putting his bee hives next to the dogs. He went away for 30 hours because he was "tired" while the bees stung the dogs to death.

Good luck on getting anyone to do anything. We let nuts run around loose for years unchecked. Just because the postal authorities or police do not act does not mean it was not a crime, or even a felony.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KD0REQ on September 17, 2012, 11:02:24 AM
you got a Local Home Town Eyewitness Action News tipline number?  with documentation, maybe things can get speeded up some.  the bee/dog angle might get their interest, and the sheriff's good buddy angle might keep it.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N0SOY on September 18, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
I do not trade with anyone I do not know well.  I would rather sell the item I wanted to get rid of on Ebay and then Buy the item from someone through Ebay or well known dealer.  To many thiefs and scammers out there.  I know alot of you P and M about Ebay but there are layers of protection.  ALWAYS use Paypal and a Credit card through them.  If the deal goes bad you have the credit card company and Paypal to reverse the charge.  When shipping Insured Signature required.  Ship the item USPS because of the Federal Criminal investigation that can be triggered.  Never buy from a new Ebay account.  Ask specific questions carefully.  If an item description does not specifically say the item works within specification then ask.  It is hard to prove fraud if the ad does not say it works and it arrives and does. 
Keep ALL communication.  If the item does not show up, is not as described, otherwise is junk you have recourse both criminally and civily.    Same if the buyer plays scams.  The US Postal Inspectors are getting tougher on these scammers.  There have been indictments for mail and wire fraud due to scamming on the internet. 
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KD8DEY on September 29, 2012, 10:17:49 AM
Don Pinson has changed his call sign for some unknown reason ?   His new FCC Call is

AA7DP       So he can change his call to AA7DP, but don't be fooled by Don Pinson> Its really  aka W6HFS

I never got my radio equipment back, the police in Orting Washington are to busy with other crimes they told than to chase after every internet rip off.   But they did go and visit Don, each time they did, Don would call and say he would make things right, but after several days Don would forget about he told me and the police.

He would actually chuckle and say he would have  send my stuff back but he sold it all.

So beware, Please learn from my mistakes don't deal with AA7DP     Don Pinson AKA W6hfs
According to a post on QRZ last may his number is
360-893-0903
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KC8UAV on February 15, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Well I guess the time has come to realize there are bad hams too. I hope and pray that Don Pinson, aka N7DPP didn't just scam me. We agreed on a trade for my new iPad 3 for his Yaesu FT-897, and not ever having a issue trading with a fellow ham, agreed. I shipped my iPad out on Tuesday the 12th of Feb. Insured, tracking number, the usual.....He responded back to me with some tracking number that does not work on the USPS site. Finding this as a concern, I emailed Don and he said " well it can take a few days" for the tracking number to register. I have never once had this issue with the USPS system. So, I tracked MY iPad as it traveled across the country, while I had nothing to reference as to the whereabouts of my incoming rig. And I still have no rig. And he's not responding to about 6-10 emails I've sent to him over the past 30 or so hours. Amazing.

Rest assured, I will take legal action if he does not come through. Based on the high number of out of state transactions, this is a federal offence, and not the first one.

Again, I hope I am wrong and the radio is in fact en-route. But if it's not, hello legal system. Who else has to go through this before something is done.

I would love to see comments,

Patrick, KC8UAV >:(
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KC8UAV on March 19, 2013, 06:19:44 AM
Still waiting on my property..............yawn..............come on Don, grow a spine.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA1CDE on April 14, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
Don Pinson has changed his call again ?

Please be advised he stole my gear, everytime the police went there , he would send me email laughing about it.  Yeah 3000 miles aways
Makes it difficult to prosecute but please be aware
He has changed his call again!!!!!

NA0DP.    Don Pinson new call, 3 time he has changed it.

Thanks to all for letting others know to beware of Don Pinson
Thief !!!! na0dp

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W0DV on April 16, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
Thiefs are hard to figure out. I can't understand how a thief can have any self resepct at all. You need to prosecute this guy. This story is a lesson for everyone. You just can't trust anyone anymore. I would be relentless in my pursuit to get my goods/money back.

Good Luck,

Dave
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W8MLD on May 26, 2013, 07:54:48 AM
Not your fault Don that the USPS lost the item???  If true that is down right cold and a terrible way to treat another Ham!!!  If I had sent something to someone by the US Postal Service I would have it insured and certified with return reciept, so I would have proof it was sent and if lost or damaged could be replaced.  To me it sounds like you scammed this guy.  Man up and help him out.  If the stuff is lost you should do everything in your power on your end to find out what happened to it not say "USPS lost it, not my fault".  That is a pathetic and disgraceful response to a fellow amateur!
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KC9TUS on August 19, 2013, 09:55:01 PM
WOW....

He made the Orting Washington News. My Uncle was reviewing past articles and found this:

http://www.ortingnews.com/article/2013/3/local-ham-operator-don-pinson-accused-of-running-internet-scam.html
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N3HFS on August 22, 2013, 06:21:18 PM
He's giving us 'HFSes a bad call!
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA5ROW on August 23, 2013, 07:54:26 AM
Sense don doesn't know what you look like go see him. Stop by and say saw your antennas and then say, I am working on my ham license can you tell me more about it. He probably will show you his shack. If he does you may just see some of your stuff. Say that a cool shack leave and go to the police.

 Of course the trip will cost you more than the equipment is worth. But getting an conviction / arrest would be a priceless satisfaction
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W4LTZ on September 04, 2013, 01:31:51 PM
This is the kind of thing you see a drug addict doing. Thsi person has no conscience and probably won't, even if someone beats him senseless.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W9JC on September 17, 2013, 04:59:01 AM
Hello guys,

I am a returning ham and new to the forums.  In fact, this is my first post.

I have turned over this information to my friend who is a senior postal inspector.  My guess is, they are so overburdened with stuff like this, it's just one more piece of straw in the haystack.   I am also wondering a couple of things.

1.  What about the FBI ?   I have a acquaintance that is former FBI and may be able to advise, but, in any case, a field office needs to be informed.
2.  What about the FCC ?   Clearly, the man is using his FCC license in the process of committing what is likely federal crimes

This is one guy, and a bad dude.  But, there are way more good guys than bad guys. 

The power of many.   :)

j
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N9LCD on September 18, 2013, 08:16:38 AM
IMO, regardless of who you report him to, Don's NOT going to be prosecuted.

INVESTIGATORS AND PROSECUTORS:

1.  Have limited time and resources.  They have to PRIORITIZE.  Going after a small-time fraudster and ignoring violent/street crime isn't an efficient use of available resources.  Also, it doesn't sit well with the VOTERS!

2.   Don't like fraud cases.  Fraud cases are built on primarily circumstantial evidence and are hard to prosecute.  They prefer cases with tangible evidence and witnesses.  They like "spectacular" wins: that's what the VOTERS remember! 


N9LCD

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KE7TMA on October 19, 2013, 07:22:32 PM

Don Pinson of Orting Washington ripped me off. W6HFS

We were suppose to trade my Icom 706MK2G, an ALS 500 Mobile amp, plus my Hf antenna for his Brand New Icom 7000 he bought the day after Christmas........Well never got it !! Don "spaced", didnot want to ship it?, My stuff was all broken? Oh he then said he jmumped to conclusions made a mistake its OK? says did ship it but must be lost?, doesn't know anything about it? Doesn't want to talk to the post office, Not his problem. (US Post Office told me nothing ever shipped) Ripped OFF by Donald Pinson, Like many others here, he has ripped off me and many others, do not do any business With Donald Pinson W6HFS.........

I even offered to pay for all shipping if he would just return my stuff!!!

But why would he, it all worked great and was FREE I guess, he never sent anything like he said.........Just ripped me OFF !

When dealing with Donald Pinson it seemed normal, until you finally realize your never getting what you supposely traded for, then he is a different person when you deal with him..

Oh Yeah, he said he just could not wait to get my stuff !!!!

Heck by now he must have stole enough stuff to refurbish his entire shack......

Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........





Let this be your first and only expensive lesson in using the USPS to buy or sell.  You need your mail to have DELIVERY CONFIRMATION with RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED.  This way they can not simply claim they did not receive your packages.  In the future when you do this, you will have the proof you need to initiate a mail fraud investigation from the USPS.

Just mailing stuff to people is no good.  You have to do it correctly, and the USPS has all the tools you need to accomplish this.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W7HBP on March 16, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
you got a Local Home Town Eyewitness Action News tipline number?  with documentation, maybe things can get speeded up some.  the bee/dog angle might get their interest, and the sheriff's good buddy angle might keep it.

Seattle news has an aggressive guy named "Jesse" who goes after scammers. Orting isnt too far south, in Jesses range for sure. Call Jesse Jones. He puits it on TV and doesnt let up.

http://www.king5.com/news/get-jesse
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: SWL377 on March 17, 2014, 12:28:42 PM
He's had trouble before.

From local court and tax assessor public records:
Civil Judgment Filing Record


Filing Information

Filing Number:062051811
Filing Type:CIVIL JUDGMENT
Action Type: CIVIL JUDGMENT
Filing Office:PIERCE SUPERIOR COURT - TACOMA
930 TACOMA AVE S
TACOMA, WA 98402
Filing County: PIERCE
Filing Date: 03/01/2006

Debtor Information

Debtor:PINSON, DONALD
21321 194TH AVE E
ORTING, WA 98360
Debtor Type: INDIVIDUAL
Debtor Amount:$5,349.00

He and his wife own a house.

Real Property Tax Assessor Record


Source Information

Tax Roll Certification Date: 01/14/2012

Owner Information Current Through:02/13/2014

County Last Updated:03/06/2014

Current Date: 03/17/2014

Source:TAX ASSESSOR PIERCE, WASHINGTON


Owner Information

Owner(s):PINSON DONALD P
 PINSON DEBRA K
Owner Relationship: HUSBAND/WIFE
Property Address: 21321 194TH AVE E
ORTING, WA 98360-9703
Mailing Address: PO BOX 1325
ORTING, WA 98360-1325

File a small claims case, win it, get a judgement, put a lien on his property. It wont get you paid right away but its a start.

It's a shame that law enforcement won't pusue this matter vigourously. It creates a no prosecution zone in which thieves can and do flourish.

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA5MOE on March 17, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
This is pretty easy I think. The contact for the sale was made in your jurisdiction.  He would have to travle. If he noshows you get a judgment. If he counters in his venue then file for a change of venue
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA5PIU on June 14, 2014, 01:26:38 AM
Hello.

First off, his last call was AA7DP.
And, second, in every case there was to be some sort of trade, not an actual sale.
He was in HIS location when the offers were tendered, not yours.
You can not argue theft, as this was to be an "Even Trade".
You have almost no legal recourse in this case under Washington state law.
And, no, this would have to be filed under Washington state law.
Where you are from or sent something from has no bearing on the case.
You chose to send your property to his location.
And, there is no set dollar amounts.
Under Washington state and Federal law, there was no actual theft
Now, the license he held were all cancelled in 2012.
In short, the guy knows the law and decided to screw a bunch of people.
Not one, not 2, not 3, but well over a dozen, and counting!
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W9FIB on June 14, 2014, 05:48:00 AM
Hello.

First off, his last call was AA7DP.
And, second, in every case there was to be some sort of trade, not an actual sale.
He was in HIS location when the offers were tendered, not yours.
You can not argue theft, as this was to be an "Even Trade".
You have almost no legal recourse in this case under Washington state law.
And, no, this would have to be filed under Washington state law.
Where you are from or sent something from has no bearing on the case.
You chose to send your property to his location.
And, there is no set dollar amounts.
Under Washington state and Federal law, there was no actual theft
Now, the license he held were all cancelled in 2012.
In short, the guy knows the law and decided to screw a bunch of people.
Not one, not 2, not 3, but well over a dozen, and counting!


WOW! He is an attorney as well!
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA5PIU on June 14, 2014, 08:09:09 PM


WOW! He is an attorney as well!
[/quote]

Hello.

Actually, I decided to look into this, ask a few questions.
The guy has not presented a valid call, and offered an "Even Trade", and a bad reputation.
And, several people filed theft cases, only to have them dismissed when it was discovered that this was to be "Even Trade".
If you agree to an "Even Trade" and it does not work out, there was no actual sale, and you are screwed!
Again, you can not argue theft in a "Even Trade".
In short, do not do it.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W9FIB on June 15, 2014, 06:02:36 AM


WOW! He is an attorney as well!

Hello.

Actually, I decided to look into this, ask a few questions.
The guy has not presented a valid call, and offered an "Even Trade", and a bad reputation.
And, several people filed theft cases, only to have them dismissed when it was discovered that this was to be "Even Trade".
If you agree to an "Even Trade" and it does not work out, there was no actual sale, and you are screwed!
Again, you can not argue theft in a "Even Trade".
In short, do not do it.
[/quote]

You are correct, it is not theft.

It is fraud. Also covered by both criminal and civil laws. And is usually an easier case to make. So you are not screwed at all. You just need to use the correct laws.

Better get your money back on your law degree.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA5PIU on June 15, 2014, 07:13:20 AM
Hello.

I looked up fraud under Washington state law, and Texas state law.
There has to be a clearly defined value, normally a dollar amount.
In the case of Orting WA, that was the answer I received.
http://cityoforting.org/
You will note that whenever possible, I provide links?
And, to even imply I am an attorney when there is no evidence at hand to indicate so, is a criminal offense in all 50 states.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W9FIB on June 15, 2014, 11:41:36 AM
Hello.

I looked up fraud under Washington state law, and Texas state law.
There has to be a clearly defined value, normally a dollar amount.
In the case of Orting WA, that was the answer I received.
http://cityoforting.org/
You will note that whenever possible, I provide links?
And, to even imply I am an attorney when there is no evidence at hand to indicate so, is a criminal offense in all 50 states.


Then don't try to be an online lawyer. You stink at it.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: WI8P on June 15, 2014, 02:31:45 PM
And you are both arguing discussing a thread that's over 2 years old.  ;D  ;D
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W9FIB on June 15, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Sure...its been a slow day!  :D

And it is not arguing if you point out erroneous information. But some don't like it. Fine. Don't read it!

I use the mark read button on this forum a lot. If you use it on old threads, then you will have nothing to complain about. I think that's why they have it!
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KA5PIU on June 15, 2014, 08:16:30 PM
Hello.

I just saw how someone got screwed, and wanted to know the facts.
PRIOR to doing this trade, the guy had screwed several other people, changed his call, and screwed other people.
As he was already in trouble for theft, and fraud, he decided to switch tactics, and steal some more.
I wanted to fully understand this.
The guy stole left and right, was in jail for a while, changed tactics.
What I would like to know is what happened?
Did the short stint in jail teach him new tricks?
Why was he compelled to steal to begin with?
Does the change of calls have any bearing in this?
What was his occupation prior to stealing?
Thank you.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W7HBP on February 08, 2015, 06:38:41 PM
Don Pinson is now: NA0DP

Looks like the local paper has a write up on his email fraud with hams.

http://www.ortingnews.com/article/2013/3/local-ham-operator-don-pinson-accused-of-running-internet-scam.html

(http://www.ortingnews.com/uploads/articles/2013/03/1363060708-W6HFS%20Donald%20Pinson.jpg)

Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W6EM on April 26, 2015, 06:35:43 PM
Pinson has changed his call about 3 times since this thread began.  He is now NA0DP.  Same address.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N7ZAL on April 27, 2015, 11:50:52 PM
If his address is known, why not a nice knock on the door and a visit?
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: WB2JIX on April 29, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
Anyone that's gullible enough to expect a "trade" to work out, not in person, is looking for heartache.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: W8LV on June 21, 2015, 11:30:40 PM
Call Sign/Lease ID   Name   FRN   Radio Service   Status   Expiration Date
1   AA7DP   PINSON, DONALD P   0017147919   HV   Canceled   03/20/2022
2   N7DPP   PINSON, DONALD P   0017147919   HV   Canceled   11/03/2022
3   NA0DP   PINSON, DONALD P   0017147919   HV   Active   03/12/2023
4   W6HFS   PINSON, DONALD P   0017147919   HV   Canceled   02/23/2021
5   W7YGP   PINSON, DONALD P   0017147919   HV   Canceled   01/14/2018
 
Are these Call Signs ALL the SAME guy, and are they THAT GUY,
OR is this a case of mistaken identity? Just wondered. Because I wouldn't want to make the error of mistaking someones identity. Wow! If that all IS the SAME GUY, that sure is a lot of Call Sign changes. They appear (to me) to be all listed under the SAME FR Number.

And IF this is soneone who has done wrong.. . IF he is the guy, or ANY guy for that matter if he would ever be convicted and has a record, isnt there some character clause to hold an FCC Licrnce? Just wondered...
Again, I don't want to contribute to making an error of mistaken identity because that would be a horrible thing to do.


Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: WI8P on June 22, 2015, 06:32:58 AM
Has he ever been actually convicted of a crime?  If not, while he may be a scumbag of the highest order, how could the FCC deny a license.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: K5TED on July 21, 2015, 07:32:22 PM
Pinson obviously views the ham hobby and hams as game to be trapped, snared, picked and plundered. He knows his victims are gullible and unable or unwilling to retaliate.

Either take a stance, initiate a case, make a difference, or stop whining.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KD8MJR on September 05, 2015, 06:40:38 PM
Pinson obviously views the ham hobby and hams as game to be trapped, snared, picked and plundered. He knows his victims are gullible and unable or unwilling to retaliate.

Either take a stance, initiate a case, make a difference, or stop whining.


I think your simplifying the situation into just a black and white case.  When someone Scams you for a sum of money like $1000 it is very problematic and expensive to get justice via the courts and that's one of the main reasons most modern two bit scam artist keep the con small.  Also a head on confrontation can end up going really badly for you.

I think the OP has done everything within reason to get his money back and at this point his best option is to just keep on using the internet to go after the guys reputation and keep asking the authorities the status of his complaint.

About 20 years ago I had to deal with this kind of situation and what I did was to get the name of the person I filed the complaints with.  After that I always made sure to speak back to the same guy on a regular basis.  After about 3 months of hearing from me once a week I think the guy I was talking to was tired of getting my calls and decided to send someone out to deal with the case.  I soon got back a call saying they had arrested the guy and wanted me to come down and talk to the guy.  I did that and he started begging me to drop the charges if he paid me back right away.  A few hours later his girl friend showed up with the cash and I got my money back.  The funny part was the next day I called the officer to thank him again and he then told me that the guy was still in jail.  Turns out that when they ran a check he had also scammed some other people and they also showed up at the station, but this time his GF did not have the cash to pay them.  I have no idea what happened to him after that.

73s
Rob
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: N8FVJ on September 15, 2015, 11:29:42 AM
These scammers are just rubbish for a human being. I will have the assuredswap third party site up & running running in 30 days. Any trade or swap will be protected for a small fee and these bums will be shutdown.
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KD0REQ on September 16, 2015, 09:27:24 AM
be sure to post a link where we can confirm your bonding
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: AC7CW on September 16, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
I wonder what his current ebay store is named? I didn't find a way to look up stores by the owner name, maybe there is one?
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: AC7DX on September 21, 2015, 11:37:01 AM
wish he'd rip me off. I would just pay him a visit ;D
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KC4ZGP on May 31, 2017, 11:24:15 AM
wish he'd rip me off. I would just pay him a visit ;D

Can I go with you?

Back to the paddle.

_ _ ... ... _ _

Kraus
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KC4ZGP on May 31, 2017, 11:29:19 AM
I just looked at the call sign on the FCC database thingy. The call sign is a vanity call sign and it's
cancelled too. Wow.

Kraus
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: KC4ZGP on May 31, 2017, 11:31:39 AM

His other call NA0DP is active but still a vanity call sign. Hmmm...

Kraus
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: NK7Z on May 31, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
You all realize you are responding to a thread that started in 2012, and the last post before this outbreak was in 2015?
Title: RE: Donald Pinson W6HFS stole my radio, amplifier, and mobile antenna........
Post by: K0UA on August 17, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
All 4 other callsigns have been cancelled, and now back to his original callsign. W6HFS

The man sure changes callsign a lot...