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Author Topic: WHY NOT JUST SCRAP THE TEST  (Read 36944 times)
PLANKEYE
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2016, 03:16:17 PM »

For goodness sake.  WHY NOT JUST SCRAP THE TEST?   
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2016, 03:21:27 PM »

For goodness sake.  WHY NOT JUST SCRAP THE TEST?   

No.. Let's leave the exams in place.
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PLANKEYE
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2016, 03:26:27 PM »

No.. Let's leave the exams in place.

Say what?
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W4KYR
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2016, 05:29:48 PM »

For goodness sake.  WHY NOT JUST SCRAP THE TEST?   

Because International Regulations Require That Amateur Radio Operations to Pass a Test!

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PLANKEYE
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2016, 05:36:51 PM »

Take a deep breath.  This is just a hobby relax. 
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KC9YTJ
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2016, 07:13:44 AM »

Why keep trolling here?  Why not file a proceeding with the FCC and troll them, instead?
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KB3VWG
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2016, 07:51:29 AM »

Quote from: Radio Regulations 2012
25.5 § 3 1) Administrations shall determine whether or not a person seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals. (WRC-03)

25.6 2) Administrations shall verify the operational and technical qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station. Guidance for standards of competence may be found in the most recent version of Recommendation ITU-R M.1544. (WRC-03)
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WA2ISE
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2016, 12:51:47 PM »

Well, if the FCC is willing to let us hams use homebrew transmitters, we should be able to pass a test about radio theory and regulations.  Oh, we need not show PhD level EE or physics knowledge, but hams should be at least aware of the various issues that can come up with bad transmitters.   Else untested hams may end up using trash linears like those illegal "Davebuilt" CB linear amps, and not realize that there might be problems like splattering the bands or TVI. 

It doesn't take extra knowledge to operate in the extra subbands on HF vs the general subbands, but it's much easier for an FCC agent to enforce your frequency remotely than say power level.  But the issue of having multiple grades of hams is a separate question. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2016, 01:47:04 PM »

The Amateur Radio Service is the only licensed radio service in the U.S. (and maybe the world) where the station licensee is permitted to design, build, and repair their own equipment. No other radio service permits station licensees that privilege. They have to use licensed techs, which is why we have the GROL tests, with their various endorsements.

If we wish to keep that unique capability, then we need to keep the tests in place. Because being able to do that requires a certain amount of knowledge. And how to you ensure that your licensees possess that knowledge? You conduct examinations as a condition of licensure. Granted it's not a perfect solution. But no one has come up with anything better. Not yet, anyway.

The one thing that the tests can't screen for, is an individual's propensity for poor behavior. Maybe that's the real point Plankeye was trying to make.

Keep the tests. They do serve a purpose.

73 de N8AUC
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KA2FIR
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2016, 02:55:29 PM »

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

Now that you've read it and understand it your next response is to not respond.
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PLANKEYE
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2016, 04:34:50 PM »

Listen on 7.200. We study hard learn the rules and theory and the FCC doesn't enforce the rules. Why not just not test?  Scrap it. Clearly the FCC DOES NOT enforce the rules we had to know. Scrap the test or start enforcing some rules.  Start with 7.200.
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KB2SMS
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2016, 08:08:52 AM »

Why don't we just scrap the test to become a Ham?  Fill out some forms, pay a fee and BOOM you are on the air. 

HELL NO. Why don't people want to work for anything any more? Everyone wants to be just GIVEN everything.
It's disgusting really. GIMME GIMME GIMME. NO, earn your stuff like everyone else.
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2016, 06:06:57 PM »



HELL NO. Why don't people want to work for anything any more? Everyone wants to be just GIVEN everything.
It's disgusting really. GIMME GIMME GIMME. NO, earn your stuff like everyone else.
     


Disgusting is 7.200.  All you have to do is listen. Those guys took tests and have calls and are not afraid to ID. FCC DOES NOTHING. Scrap the test it's useless.
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N0YXB
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2016, 08:29:48 PM »

Take a deep breath.  This is just a hobby relax. 

It's fun to watch you troll and then tell people to "relax, it's only a hobby". What's the matter not getting attention from the significant other? Or perhaps you don't have a significant other? Well you won't find him or her here. But hey, just like KTN, negative attention is better than none huh?
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2016, 05:50:59 AM »

Take a deep breath.  This is just a hobby relax. 

Obviously you are not paying attention to what the EMCOMM Public Service people are saying!! The word "hobby" is nowhere to be found in Part 97! The whole purpose of amateur radio is to save lives when a disaster hits when the delicate cellular communications infrastructure goes down. Remember, when all else fails, amateur radio gets through! Jus' sayin'.
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