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Author Topic: Want to build my first shack- HELP  (Read 5129 times)
KK4OZH
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« on: September 23, 2017, 09:28:40 AM »

I want to put a shack in the box in the house. Looking at TS-2000 or FT-991A. (any other recommendations)

What else do I need?

I do mostly 2m/70cm repeater work. I have HF in the car, want to do more in the house.

Thx, Jim
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KB2WIG
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2017, 09:52:48 AM »

What antenna(s) will you use?

Where will they be?

Where in the house?

What about Heat/ AC/light/power?

Coffee pot and where is the bathroom?

The above may help you in your choice of radio. I am of the opinion that the radio is low on the list compared to the antennas and environmental concerns.


klc

Don't forget the mean green.
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KK4OZH
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2017, 09:55:47 AM »

That’s my issue, if only used mobile rigs in my car. So I’m real green when it comes to home use.

I’m looking for recommendations.
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AA4PB
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 12:12:46 PM »

My recommendation would be a 60-foot crank up tower with a HAM-IV rotor and 3 element 10/15/20 meter Yagi on top. Add a 80/40 meter trapped inverted-V supported from near the top of the tower with legs running out to the ground level.

Now you might have to scale back some depending on your situation and finances.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 01:33:02 PM »

Disclaimer - I am a direct-sampling SDR nut.  It is today's radio, not yesterday's.  Start your research on my QRZ page, but that is only the beginning.  I particularly like the Elad FDM-DUO.

Dave  W8KFJ
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KC4ZGP
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2017, 05:11:43 PM »


Mean green is money.

Start simple. You may hate the hobby and be stuck with a lot of equipment.

Alinco SR-8T, a dipole and a straight key.

Kraus.
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K0UA
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 06:27:42 PM »

In my opinion, and this is JUST an opinion, yet I think many others will concur, is to NOT do the shack in a box.  Buy a separate 2m/70cm FM rig. And buy a good hf rig.  Here is why.

 You often want to monitor 2 meters while working HF.  For many reasons, such as coordination with a friend, waiting on someone to appear, checking into a vhf net while listening to an HF net.  AND the FM rig will be cheap, and you can have two radios for less than one "shack in the box".

  Each to his own though.  The Icom IC 7300  in my opinion is a very very good value in HF+6 meter radio.  You will not be disappointed in it or its capabilities.  I use mine more than my 756pro3, and I paid over twice what I did for the 7300.  YMMV and I could be wrong. 73 James K0UA
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KK4OZH
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2017, 04:58:19 AM »

Thanks Guys|
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K6BRN
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 11:14:43 AM »

James (KK4OZH/NW8H):

You can buy an FT-991 (non-A) used for between $650-$850.  Best bargain going today.  It covers 10-50M plus ALL-MODE 2M and 70CM.  Built-in sound card (works great with digital modes), very good noise reduction and interference mitigation features.  Built-in antenna tuner.

Add a PowerWerx SS-30DV power supply and you are good to go on all modes in a very small space for well under a kilobuck.

I have two: 

One as a travel radio - FT-991 + SS-30DV + MyAntennas EFHW-4010 wire antenna.  Fits in 1/2 of a carry-on.  Have traveled a lot and made many contacts with it.

The second is my QTH#2 radio mated to an Elecraft KPA-500/KAT-500 amplifier.

Both work great.  I've run them on AM (yes - AM, works great, but Yaesu AM setup instructions are wrong), FM, SSB, RTTY, JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8.

Brian - K6BRN
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K6UJ
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2017, 05:51:21 PM »

TS-2000 is great.  Definitely get a separate HF rig for the house.  If you can afford a tower then great,
pu HF antennas on the tower.  Forget about the VHF bands from the house. (my opinion) do vhf/uhf mobile.
Then you have the best of both worlds.  Play with UHF/VHF mobile and HF from the home where you get
a decent antenna.  If tower is not an option then there are multiband HF verticals available which will need
radial wires, but they work great.  Good luck and have fun !

73,
Bob
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2017, 01:03:21 PM »

I hope you have already reached a decision, but in case you didn't, I'll throw in my 2 cents. Also, for anyone else who might read this thread.

I have an FT-991 (non-"A" version), and it is a great radio. Simply fantastic. However, I bought it at the fire sale last year when they were introducing the "A" version and got a great deal on it. I honestly don't know if I would be willing to pay what the 991A is selling for right now.

A less expensive shack-in-a-box is the Icom IC-7100 which is selling below $1000. If you can get past the looks of it, it is a good radio. It has basically everything you would want at a price you can afford.
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VE7REN
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2017, 10:43:45 AM »

I agree with james posting above..

"In my opinion, and this is JUST an opinion, yet I think many others will concur, is to NOT do the shack in a box.  Buy a separate 2m/70cm FM rig. And buy a good hf rig.  Here is why.

 You often want to monitor 2 meters while working HF.  For many reasons, such as coordination with a friend, waiting on someone to appear, checking into a vhf net while listening to an HF net.  AND the FM rig will be cheap, and you can have two radios for less than one "shack in the box".

  Each to his own though.  The Icom IC 7300  in my opinion is a very very good value in HF+6 meter radio.  You will not be disappointed in it or its capabilities.  I use mine more than my 756pro3, and I paid over twice what I did for the 7300. " or

in my opinion the ts2000 has a lacking receiver vs my 7410 icom,or pro3 or 7300 I use. it is a good radio,but I'm constantly fiddling with the dsp to make it sound as good as the recievers in my icoms,but overall its a fair to good radio
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K6BRN
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2017, 10:03:41 PM »

The thing about buying an FT-991 or FT991A "shack in a box" is that it does not really cost more than a radio without all-mode and digital 2M and 70CM.  So if you'd like to buy an additional 2M/70CM radio to operate in parallel, total cost is about the same as with any other HF radio.

In short - there is no down side, only an upside.
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N8FVJ
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2017, 05:40:05 AM »

There are only a few newer base radios that cover HF thru UHF. The Kenwood TS-2000, Yaesu FT-847, Yaesu FT-991/991A. Mobile radios that can be used as a base is the IC-7000 and IC-706MkIIG. All are 100 watts on HF, VHF & UHF varies on power output.

TS-2000: Reasonable performing HF receiver and good on VHF/UHF. Cost used is $700-900 used. New is still available for $1300. eham Reviews rating 4.4

Yaesu FT-847: Reasonable performing HF radio and excellent on VHF/UHF. Some used the receiver for VHF/UHF weak signal SSB reception due to the very hot receive. $750-850 used. eham Review rating 4.4

Yaesu FT-991: Reasonable performing HF radio & good VHF/UHF receiver. $750-850 used. eham Review rating 4.1

Yaesu FT-991A: Reasonable HF receiver & good on VHF/UHF. Not many offered used for sale- $1000-$1200 used. eham Review rating 4.1

ICOM IC-706MkIIG: Reasonable HF receiver & good on VHF/UHF. $500-600 used. eham Review rating 4.4

Reasonable HF rating is not the best like a contest radio, but will perform very well. Any of the above have similar review ratings on eham and would be a great addition to your radio shack. You may need a quality external speaker that can make a large difference in receive audio.

All are reliable except get the later FT-747 with the CAT cable as the power switch is upgraded to a reliable switch vs the original radios. The Yaesu FT-100D & ICOM IC-7000 does have some transmit transistor failures, thus was not included in this list of available reliable transceivers.
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N8FVJ
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2017, 06:22:34 AM »

BTW- I recommend from post above in this order.

#1- Yaesu FT991/991A (no HF antenna tuner)
#2- Yaesu FT-847 (no Vox, no HF antenna tuner)) I own this radio
#3- ICOM IC-706 MKIIG (smaller size radio, no antenna tuner. no VOX)
#4- Kenwood TS-2000 (worst HF receiver of the lot, but has HF antenna tuner).
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