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Author Topic: The Icom IC-7610 USA price is $4,000  (Read 12698 times)
WX0V
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« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2017, 02:21:46 PM »

My concerns about Flex, or many SDRs, is being tethered to an external computer to use them.  Just last week, my work computer required a re-boot because it got hung-up.  I look at how many times I've had to re-boot a computer over my life.  Not numerous but enough. 

Then I look at how many times I've had to re-boot an Amateur Radio transceiver; zero.

So here's the scenario.  After 10 days of getting crushed by a W6/W7 wall, I finally hear:

P5DX: WX0V 5NN

Finally!  I got through!  An ATNO!  YES!

I go to send my reply and....yep...you got it (knowing my luck)...the computer locks up!

P5DX: WX0V 5NN

Elevated panic at WX0V

P5DX: WX0V 5NN

Total panic and desperation at WX0V

P5DX: NIL P5DX UP

WX0V re-boots computer and tries again, but P5DX's signal has faded.  WX0V grabs aforementioned firearms and fills computer and SDR full of holes.  Police are called.  Jail time.  Big fine.  Expensive repair bill.  Story in QST.  Forced to drink Pepsi.  Oy...

That scenario doesn't mean it would be Flex's or any other radio software that seized the computer; it could be anything.  Plus, to be balanced here, any radio could malfunction.  However, needing an external computer to run the radio adds one more piece that could fail.

Regarding the incipient "M" models from Flex, which partially eliminates the need for an external computer, I simply find them unattractive.  If they had more of a modern look (i.e. similar to an IC-7610), I would certainly consider one.

73 de WX0V
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W6UV
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« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2017, 02:54:11 PM »

My concerns about Flex, or many SDRs, is being tethered to an external computer to use them.  Just last week, my work computer required a re-boot because it got hung-up.  I look at how many times I've had to re-boot a computer over my life.  Not numerous but enough. 

Then I look at how many times I've had to re-boot an Amateur Radio transceiver; zero.

So here's the scenario.  After 10 days of getting crushed by a W6/W7 wall, I finally hear:

P5DX: WX0V 5NN

Finally!  I got through!  An ATNO!  YES!

I go to send my reply and....yep...you got it (knowing my luck)...the computer locks up!

P5DX: WX0V 5NN

Not a problem with a Flex-6000, because even if the computer locks up the rig will continue working--just send your reply with your paddle and you're good. The Flex-5000, 3000, and 1500 are a different story--in that same scenario you'd be hosed.
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VA3VF
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« Reply #92 on: November 21, 2017, 05:22:57 PM »

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I go to send my reply and....yep...you got it (knowing my luck)...the computer locks up!

I have good news for you, and you're luckier than you think, it was a pirate. Grin

Now go get an IC-7610, actually two, and be ready for 3Z9DX activation. Roll Eyes
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WX0V
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« Reply #93 on: November 21, 2017, 07:21:20 PM »

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I go to send my reply and....yep...you got it (knowing my luck)...the computer locks up!

I have good news for you, and you're luckier than you think, it was a pirate. Grin

Now go get an IC-7610, actually two, and be ready for 3Z9DX activation. Roll Eyes


Now that, sir, is an excellent post!  Quite Alex Lifeson-like...I laughed heartily when I read it.  Well played!

Yeah, you're probably right...it was Slim...or Romeo...   Grin
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K7JQ
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« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2017, 05:06:58 AM »

Neither HRO, DX Engineering, or any other vendor shows availability of the IC-7600. Looks like all remaining stock sold out quickly when the 7610 was announced at $3,900....enough of a price difference to pull the trigger on a new 7600 (at $1,949). Now that new 7600's are gone, the value of pristine used ones might get a bump above the recent average asking price of around $1,600-$1,700. Still a good one-receiver radio with great features.

BTW, HRO has a Black Friday price on the IC-7300 at $999 after rebate. Good time to jump on one, or a second one Wink.

73, and Happy Thanksgiving!

Bob K7JQ
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VA3VF
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« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2017, 05:08:56 AM »


BTW, HRO has a Black Friday price on the IC-7300 at $999 after rebate. Good time to jump on one, or a second one Wink.

Bob K7JQ

Wow...I only wish we had these types of deals here in Canada.
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K7JQ
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« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2017, 05:23:18 AM »


BTW, HRO has a Black Friday price on the IC-7300 at $999 after rebate. Good time to jump on one, or a second one Wink.

Bob K7JQ

Wow...I only wish we had these types of deals here in Canada.

Now you can buy four 7300's for the price of one 7610...SO4R for all the 4-eared contesters Grin! Next year, the 7610 will be $2,999 on Black Friday. Count on it Wink.
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VA3VF
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« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2017, 05:25:38 AM »


BTW, HRO has a Black Friday price on the IC-7300 at $999 after rebate. Good time to jump on one, or a second one Wink.

Bob K7JQ

Wow...I only wish we had these types of deals here in Canada.

Now you can buy four 7300's for the price of one 7610...SO4R for all the 4-eared contesters Grin! Next year, the 7610 will be $2,999 on Black Friday. Count on it Wink.

I knew the 7300 was going to be a good radio eventually. If you are right, the same will happen with the 7610. Grin Grin Grin
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VE3WGO
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« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2017, 06:24:16 AM »

wow.  so the IC-7300 is driving a new price bar for HF transceiver market pricing.  A surprisingly good radio for an amazing price!

When you compare it to the current crop of mid-range receive-only SDRs and add up the price of everything you need to operate one of those in the HF bands, the 7300 gives you the SDR receiver + touch display + computer all built in one portable box for something in the same price ballpark and a ton more reliable than a desktop of separate boxes and cables. I can hear the counterarguments "well, I already have a computer so it's free", which I have found to not be really a fair and true comparison, at least in my case.  And I'm not talking about low end 10-bit dongles.  

In this price analysis and under $1k, the 7300's transmitter and antenna tuner are basically free!

73, Ed VE3WGO

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VA3VF
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« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2017, 06:28:52 AM »

In this price analysis and under $1k, the 7300's transmitter and antenna tuner are basically free!

That's right, Ed.

I hope the ongoing NAFTA re-negotiations will bring that price over here. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #100 on: November 22, 2017, 06:15:48 PM »

Wow, there is a Black Friday sale at R & L Electronics for the Icom IC7610.  Check it out, the price is $3,449.95 with free shipping.  There is limit of 2 per customer and good until Nov 27th.
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« Reply #101 on: November 22, 2017, 06:26:45 PM »

In many ways, the rsp2 is a much better RX then the 7300, and it will run on almost any computer you have around.
RX up to 2 GHz, any filter width you want, sync AM detection, works with at least 3 different programs, for well under $200.00.
The 7300 (and maybe the 7610) rx audio is poor from a fidelity standpoint for those who swl and like good sounding audio.

For $1000.00 the 7300 is a great deal as a ham rig though, how do guys list 756 pro radios for that much or more I do not know.....
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N9AOP
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« Reply #102 on: November 23, 2017, 09:44:06 AM »

On paper this unit looks great.  Eventually the price should drop to about 3 bills.
Art
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N4UE
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« Reply #103 on: November 23, 2017, 10:04:05 AM »

Easy for R&L to have a sale, when there is no product... hmmmm

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« Reply #104 on: November 23, 2017, 10:17:55 AM »

Easy for R&L to have a sale, when there is no product... hmmmm

ron
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I'm sure if you give them your credit card for full payment, you'll get the radio when they arrive. They're not a fly-by-night vendor. Must be a fair amount of pre-order cancellations for that much of a drop. Competitors will probably match the price if you ask.
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