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KC0W
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« on: December 04, 2017, 05:07:31 PM »



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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 05:20:10 PM »

Yes, standard immigration warning for quite a few countries in this region.  What's more, they do carry out executions (some Australians were executed in Indonesia a few years ago).

It's a funny old world.  I live in Myanmar and at the weekends I ride my dirt-bike in Shan State and see plenty of opium poppies being grown in the more remote areas, to be harvested and smuggled through 'The Golden Triangle' region to Thailand and then on to drug dealers in western countries.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2017, 06:28:18 PM »

I've always wondered how you protect your luggage when going to such a country. What's to stop some baggage handlers from putting something in an unsuspecting traveler's luggage with a contact at the other end to retrieve it in the airport? TSA locks are a frigging joke and you can't wrap it any more, so what can you do to protect yourself?
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 08:23:55 PM »

 I don't think there's anything you can do. As the old saying goes, "possession is 9/10's of the law".

 My only terrifying experience regarding foreign customs officials happened in Austria in December 1989. I had just arrived the Austrian border on an overnight train from Bucharest, Romania. For some reason I was that guy Austrian customs decided to put the screws to. They went thru EVERYTHING with a fine tooth comb & then went thru everything again. They even squirted out my toothpaste to make sure toothpaste was in the tube.

 I was then instructed to turn my back by customs officials. I refused to do so but eventually   was...........Ummmmmmm........."Persuaded" to comply. So now I had my back turned to my backpack with 3 or 4 border agents hovering over it. It was at this exact moment I was psychologically preparing to spend a very, very long time in an Austrian jail for some (obviously) trumped up bunko charges. After a minute or so I was told to turn around again & was expecting to see a bazooka, severed head, antiaircraft artillery shell or 10 Kg. of white power now in my backpack.

 "Take your backpack and get outta here". (paraphrase)

 I re-boarded the Vienna bound train mystified at what the hell just happened. This incident occurred 15 hours or so after the Ceausescu's were both executed on Christmas day. Had this anything to do with it? I have no idea but it makes for interesting speculation/fodder.  

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 10:02:07 PM »

Scary experience!

Indeed not much you can do about it other than try to ensure the bags have not been tampered with. Australian airport baggage handlers have smuggling rings putting drugs in PAX bags around VK and then taking them out at the next airport, but if they miss taking it out you're done. An elderly VK6 couple were lucky. When they got home they found drugs in their bag. If others at the airport had found it they'd perhaps not have been able to tell the story.

Even security "services" do it. I think it was the Czechs who planted some explosives (not primed to go off though) in PAX luggage to test their systems at detecting and hence removing such. They used live unsuspecting PAX as guinea pigs. One such arrived home to Ireland from Praha where the security services forgot or missed to remove it and found explosives in his luggage. Imagine, if the Dublin airport had found it as they should have, he'd be in jail rest of his life.

These things don't happen often but one can indeed be unlucky. It pays I guess to be on the alert and vigilant. Do NOT trust authorities they can be stupid and corrupt, don't I know something about that. Above all if a policeman asks you any question, don't be nice and obliging, it goes against our nature as innocent people but if you are innocent ESPECIALLY don't answer ANY question and don't say "yes, you can come in" but "am I charged with anything?" "where is your warrant"? No? Good bye. Like I said, that goes against good nature but there is a reason that that advice is given by every lawyer.

Did you pack your bags yourself? Yes, but I cannot guarantee no one has tampered with my bag since I checked it in.

Are you carrying anything illegal on your person? Not that I know of but my Australian passport has a huge chip in it that can store a huge amount of data on it and I have no access to that data, so I don't know if they have put child pornography or anything else horrific and illegal on it, but other than that I'm pretty sure I am not carrying anything illegal (other than an independent free thinking mind).

That last one may be illegal in some countries, but as of yet I don't think they figured out how to read people's minds so as long as you keep your thoughts to yourself, you should be fine on that score.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 03:21:52 AM »

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I was then instructed to turn my back by customs officials.

Good Heavens!! Is that similar to dropping the soap in a prison shower? Smiley

No, please don't answer that......

As a further comment, when I visited the UK 2 years ago, my laptop and small rucksack was swabbed for traces of drugs by the UK Customs.  Imagine to my horror when it came up positive!  On further questioning, I explained that I traveled a lot in Shan State with both laptop and rucksack.  The customs officer explained that that region was awash with drugs, that most of the currency notes had traces of drugs on them, and that it was no surprise that my personal items came up positive.

I was released with no further investigation.  If I travel outside Myanmar again, I think I'll leave my laptop and rucksack behind....
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 03:59:23 AM »

Indeed a strange world
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