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Title: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: G7MRV on May 01, 2017, 01:40:45 PM
Hi All,

Following on from the phenominal (and to me envious!) success of my best friend in learning Morse to an on-air usable standard in just three weeks using an app on his iphone (plus the advantage of being a truck driver and having hours free a day to practice!) im now lagging badly behind!

Im therefore looking for a good app for my Android based phone. I use G4FON on my PC, and find it very good, so im looking for a similar system - one that allows the character speed and word speed to be set independantly, and the number of characters sent to be varied (Koch method)

Rather than keep downloading apps to try and then binning them, Im hoping for suggestions of apps people have used, to narrow my search down.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: OZ8AGB on May 01, 2017, 02:07:58 PM
How about www.lcwo.net (http://www.lcwo.net) in a mobile browser?


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: G7MRV on May 01, 2017, 06:49:50 PM
How about www.lcwo.net (http://www.lcwo.net) in a mobile browser?


I am very often in locations with no mobile data coverage


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: VK4FFAB on May 01, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
Youkits HB1B and a mobile whip antenna.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: W3TTT on May 02, 2017, 08:58:13 AM
How about www.lcwo.net (http://www.lcwo.net) in a mobile browser?


I am very often in locations with no mobile data coverage

Which planet are you going to?  Because this planet is pretty well covered cell phone wise. 

Anyway - try downloading the ARRL code practice lessons. 

Also, there is a podcast called QOTD at various speeds. 

Finally, I have a code practice feed that is constantly updated at
http://w3ttt.radiostream321.com/ - just record it as it is sent, and save it for later. 
 :P

Vry 73, Joe W3TTT



Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: M0LEP on May 02, 2017, 10:52:31 AM
Which planet are you going to?  Because this planet is pretty well covered cell phone wise.
Only if you go for something that gets its coverage from satellites. Get out of town and if you're relying on ground-based stations then coverage can be quite limited, even in Europe...


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: N3HEE on May 02, 2017, 12:12:42 PM
Morse Trainer is by far the best app I have found for Android.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muRK90yFpu8


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: G7MRV on May 03, 2017, 09:53:06 AM


Which planet are you going to?  Because this planet is pretty well covered cell phone wise. 



Seriously? Do you get around the planet much?

And your making the assumption im at surface level and in the open


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: DU7DVE on May 03, 2017, 05:07:35 PM

I am very often in locations with no mobile data coverage

Which planet are you going to?  Because this planet is pretty well covered cell phone wise. 


I'm in a rural area in the Philippines. There are certainly a few places here where coverage is marginal.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: VK6IS on May 03, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
I am very often in locations with no mobile data coverage

even in AU, it's primarily for Cities / Towns / Highways,
 - - Rural & away from those, it's marginal.

you would be best going for a combo of online, like lwco.net
& some MP3 files for off-net scenarios.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: AK4YH on May 04, 2017, 12:23:59 AM
KMT Pro.

Because it also allows you to listen to the news in Morse...

Gil.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: W3TTT on May 04, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Seriously? Do you get around the planet much?

Seriously? No, not really.  Did you think I was being serious?  That is what the  :D  icon is for. 

I do get around this planet a bit. I have coverage for my cell phone about 99% of the time.  It's very rare that I don't.  Seriously.  When I don't have coverage, I don't use the phone. 

But - I have my ham radio backup!   :D

And the ANYWAY gives it away!!!   ;)  The "anyway" says that I understand that you don't have good cell phone coverage in your area, and that is why I offer some suggestions for you less fortunate people, cell phone coverage wise... see? 

Anyway - try downloading the ARRL code practice lessons. 

Also, there is a podcast called QOTD at various speeds. 

Finally, I have a code practice feed that is constantly updated at
http://w3ttt.radiostream321.com/ - just record it as it is sent, and save it for later. 

 :o



Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: G7MRV on May 04, 2017, 09:47:19 PM
Many thanks to those of you who actually made suggestions that answered the question I asked! (N3HEE and AK4YH)

At present im trying out IZ3UUFs app, which im finding quite good for my purposes.

My reasons for wanting a self contained app, rather than a streaming or online trainer, are due to frequently having time to practice but in locations where I cannot use an active connection, either due to there being no data service, or the use of such being prohibited, but thats not relevant


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: WA7CC on May 07, 2017, 10:53:50 AM
I like Morse Trainer for Ham Radio by Wolphi LLC.

Its self contained and doesn't require excessive permissions.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: AC7CW on May 07, 2017, 02:55:44 PM
A good trainer is to just listen to 40meters about 7100-7125 kc. That used to be the novice band way back in the day, and it is considered a place for slow CW nowadays. When I was a Novice I just got on the air and listened or made contacts and went from 5wpm to 15 or 20 in a year... If nothing else I'd mix my practice between some computer generated code and listening on 40.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: M0LEP on May 08, 2017, 10:14:44 AM
A good trainer is to just listen to 40meters about 7100-7125 kc.

...but not on this side of the Atlantic, where that bit of band is firmly in the "All Modes" area, and therefore mostly SSB. The nearest to a "Novice" bit of band over this side is around 3550 - 3560 kHz (-ish) but it's not that busy.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: AC7CW on May 08, 2017, 09:05:19 PM
A good trainer is to just listen to 40meters about 7100-7125 kc.

...but not on this side of the Atlantic, where that bit of band is firmly in the "All Modes" area, and therefore mostly SSB. The nearest to a "Novice" bit of band over this side is around 3550 - 3560 kHz (-ish) but it's not that busy.

Ok then, one needs an android program and a 40M yagi :)


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: K8BMA on July 13, 2017, 07:44:40 AM
I did a post on kb6nu.com recently with my android experiences.
http://www.kb6nu.com/?s=Android
Check it out.
Rick  ka8bma


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: VK5EEE on July 14, 2017, 09:06:31 AM
The nearest to a "Novice" bit of band over this side is around 3550 - 3560 kHz (-ish) but it's not that busy.
A pity... I remember in G land when it was really nicely busy in the evenings... I remember 3553 being some dutch CW Ops hanging out there, and ...-. . . - which also graces the cover of Morsum Magnificat, but I'm not sure what it means (unless a V then a spaced out V joined on).
One can make a nice dance: ...-. . . - ...-. . . - ...-. . . -. . . -. . . - (try it, it sounds nice dance).
And on 3574 used to be OT Nick LA3X, used to QSO with him most evenings, so CW was quite a lot all the way up that far.
I'm still impressed, when listening on European web SDRs at the levels of activity compared to VK.... you cannot imagine how POOR it is in VK, there are even times you don't hear any SSB but MOST of the time you don't hear any CW CQ nor QSO on any band. It's improved though a fair bit thanks to VK5EEE arriving here  ;D

Yes, it's not so easy as in the old days when 15m novice band was full of super slow CW, and HF as a whole, full of CW that could be used to practice with, from maritime radio, military, police, all sorts of CW all over the place! Very little is left outside amateur radio bands now, still there, but not much.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: VK5EEE on July 14, 2017, 09:10:30 AM
Those with Androids may like to install SMS2CW it works quite well, allows you to listen to SMS while driving, or without taking pocket out of the phone. your phone out of your pocket.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: NO2A on July 24, 2017, 04:35:32 PM
You could use an sw receiver or an ht that has general coverage receive. With a short length of wire for an antenna you could copy code on most of the hf bands. I got my code practice from listening to qso's. It certainly worked for me. Better than eating up all your data.


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: YT9TP on July 25, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
Let me add one more useless (but on topic) suggestion: get SDR USB dongle and you can attach it to your android (see on topic) and listen radio. Do not forget antenna, some dipole for 40 meters will do nicely. Wherever you are, you can get it out of pocket, and train, regardless of Internet availability.


Now seriously, these two are fine:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smokyink.morsecodementor

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.iz2uuf.cwkoch


Title: RE: Suggestions for a good Android based CW trainer?
Post by: KG9E on March 02, 2018, 11:30:24 AM
I have a couple of CW Morse code training and practice apps for Android available on Google Play and the Amazon Appstore. One is a CW trainer based on the Koch method, the other a Morse code practice oscillator with both straight and iambic keys. You may find more information on these webpages:

http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioMorseCodeTrainer/ (http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioMorseCodeTrainer/)

http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioPracticeKeys/ (http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioPracticeKeys/)

(http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioMorseCodeTrainer/Mockup1Small.png)

(http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioMorseCodeTrainer/Mockup3Small.png)

(http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioPracticeKeys/Mockup2Small.png)

(http://www.kg9e.net/apps/AmateurHamRadioPracticeKeys/Mockup3Small.png)