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Title: Now I've see it all!
Post by: AF5CC on May 26, 2017, 01:11:26 PM
There is currently an ad on another site for 5 different narrow filters for the Yaesu FT1000 series.  Here is what's at the bottom of the ad

"Unfortunately, due to parts swappers these are sold as is with no returns"

THESE ARE FILTERS!!!  How am I going to parts swap a filter? Pull the thing apart and swap out some crytals??

73 John AF5CC


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: N8YX on May 26, 2017, 05:22:07 PM
No - what the shysters do is to take your working filter and swap it with their bad one, then demand a return because "...ordered it for the wrong radio..." or something along those lines.

It's not limited to just filters, either.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: W9ZIM on May 26, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
How am I going to parts swap a filter? Pull the thing apart and swap out some crytals??

I honestly wouldn't put it past some people.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: K1HMS on May 29, 2017, 09:48:51 AM
Even a filter can be misused and damaged leading to a DOA claim and a automatic refund. Here is the larger problem;

Some buyers buy anything they can, they do not even care what it is, especially if shipping is free. They claim it is broken or not as described and automatically get a refund from eBay.

Now you have to get it returned from them, it can take time, many sellers give up and let them keep it in exchange for not getting negative feedback.

If they agree to return it to you they expect you to pay postage, after all you sent them a broken or incorrect item. They send you a quote from the UPS store or similar for deluxe packaging, insurance, tracking etc and expect payment in advance. Then they send it back to you the cheapest way they can, I'm surprised I haven't seen COD yet.

I've been around this tree 3 times in the past year.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: KC4ZGP on June 02, 2017, 03:06:41 PM
No - what the shysters do is to take your working filter and swap it with their bad one, then demand a return because "...ordered it for the wrong radio..." or something along those lines.

It's not limited to just filters, either.

How do they get a hold my filter.
I missed something.
Back to the paddle at 18.087MHz, CW.

_ _ ... ... _ _

Kraus



Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: N8YX on June 02, 2017, 03:25:36 PM

How do they get a hold my filter.
I missed something.

You sell them a filter and ship it.

They take the damaged filter and send it back to you, keeping the working one. If they're crafty enough, the stickers atop them (which have serial numbers) can be removed and swapped.

One of the oldest scams in the book, but by no means limited to filters.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: KC4ZGP on June 02, 2017, 05:40:02 PM

??

They're selling filters not trading filters.

??

Back to the paddle.

_ _ ... ... _ _ 

Kraus


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: VA3VF on June 04, 2017, 04:05:09 PM
No - what the shysters do is to take your working filter and swap it with their bad one, then demand a return because "...ordered it for the wrong radio..." or something along those lines.

It's not limited to just filters, either.

I heard about that, and still shake my head in disbelief. Very sad!

73 de Vince, VA3VF


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: W3WN on June 05, 2017, 11:07:10 AM

How do they get a hold my filter.
I missed something.

You sell them a filter and ship it.

They take the damaged filter and send it back to you, keeping the working one. If they're crafty enough, the stickers atop them (which have serial numbers) can be removed and swapped.

One of the oldest scams in the book, but by no means limited to filters.
By no means...

Years ago, I had some IBM SVGA monitors for sale at a hamfest.  Guy came and bought 2, brought them back a half hour later & claimed that they didn't work; complained loudly so I just gave him his money back to shut him up.  Looked at the monitors he brought back later, and realized that he'd switched them on me.  (There were tags on the back that hadn't been on the ones I'd sold).

After that incident, I always tried to get power at my table (when I was selling items like these), even if it was outdoors, so that I could demonstrate the items working properly before they buyer walked away.  In the long run, saved a lot of hassles.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: KC8KTN on June 05, 2017, 04:03:59 PM
That happened to me.I agree 1000%.I allways had power at my tables over the years


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: KC4ZGP on June 06, 2017, 10:43:44 AM

Now I see it.

Oh boy.

Like George Washington said, 'There is no profit in honesty'.
Or maybe Nero said that.

Have fun folks.

Kraus



Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: G3RZP on June 06, 2017, 04:33:47 PM
Quote
Like George Washington said, 'There is no profit in honesty'.
Or maybe Nero said that.

Might even have been earlier.....

Between honest people, there can be, though. Occasionally, one's faith in human nature can be restored.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: WZ7U on June 07, 2017, 12:23:04 AM
That happened to me.I agree 1000%.I allways had power at my tables over the years

What happened to you Chuck. I would be interested to know


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: KC8KTN on June 07, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
 WZ7U SAYS What happened to you Chuck. I would be interested to know

You do not want to know. You just want to start trouble and insult me. No thanks.. WOW. Have a nice day. Trying to make ham radio a decent hobby where  individuals want to join and be a part of.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: W3WN on June 07, 2017, 11:30:16 AM
That happened to me.I agree 1000%.I allways had power at my tables over the years

What happened to you Chuck. I would be interested to know
WZ7U SAYS What happened to you Chuck. I would be interested to know

You do not want to know. You just want to start trouble and insult me. No thanks.. WOW. Have a nice day. Trying to make ham radio a decent hobby where  individuals want to join and be a part of.
That was uncalled for.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: WZ7U on June 07, 2017, 06:06:18 PM
WZ7U SAYS What happened to you Chuck. I would be interested to know

You do not want to know. You just want to start trouble and insult me. No thanks.. WOW. Have a nice day. Trying to make ham radio a decent hobby where  individuals want to join and be a part of.

I would be interested to know from the stand point of knowing what to look out for. Now all I have to look out for is nothing. Thanks for that Chuck. Have a great day.


Title: RE: Now I've see it all!
Post by: W4KYR on June 07, 2017, 06:22:12 PM
Taking bets when this thread gets locked (or disappears entirely) like all the other ones did.

I predict before the page 2 of this thread is finished....

The winners get to enjoy E-skip on 6 meters....