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Title: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: MM0NDX on June 20, 2018, 03:29:59 PM
Team now on their way..

https://dx-world.net/kh1-kh7z-baker-island-dxpedition/

(https://dx-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/departureteam.jpg)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 20, 2018, 04:35:25 PM
Safe travels! Looking forward to seeing y'all in the pileups.  8)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 20, 2018, 05:49:45 PM
That is great news!

The team is scheduled to be on air from around UTC 0001/28th June, which is next Thursday my time.

73 and Happy Winter Solstice!

Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 20, 2018, 06:17:46 PM

That is great news!

The team is scheduled to be on air from around UTC 0001/28th June, which is next Thursday my time.


My new antenna is scheduled to arrive right around the same time. I'm still undecided what will be more fun, sitting at the radio chasing KH1, or assembling my new antenna.  ;D


73 and Happy Winter Solstice!

Luke VK3HJ


73 and Happy Summer Solstice!  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 20, 2018, 09:37:50 PM

That is great news!

The team is scheduled to be on air from around UTC 0001/28th June, which is next Thursday my time.


My new antenna is scheduled to arrive right around the same time. I'm still undecided what will be more fun, sitting at the radio chasing KH1, or assembling my new antenna.  ;D


73 and Happy Winter Solstice!

Luke VK3HJ


73 and Happy Summer Solstice!  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE

What did you buy for your new antenna?

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 20, 2018, 10:30:59 PM
My new antenna is scheduled to arrive right around the same time. I'm still undecided what will be more fun, sitting at the radio chasing KH1, or assembling my new antenna.  ;D
73 and Happy Summer Solstice!  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE

New antenna? I hope it's not another 20 m only antenna!

Marvin, you should work them on 20 m immediately they are on air, then you'll have plenty of time to assemble and install the new antenna.

It's a lovely sunny day here. Temperature has reached double digits (C)!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 20, 2018, 11:07:53 PM

New antenna? I hope it's not another 20 m only antenna!



 ;D ;D ;D

I'm getting 20M6 by M2, which is yet another 20 m monobander, but it has a much longer boom than my current LJ-205CA by Hy-Gain. Currently I have 5 elements on a 34 foot (10.4 meters) long boom. The new one will have 6 elements on a 59 foot (18 meters) long boom.

It may end up being a disappointment if the improvement is insignificant, but I've been dreaming about a longer boom for the past couple of years and I just have to give it a try.  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W4AMP on June 20, 2018, 11:44:34 PM

New antenna? I hope it's not another 20 m only antenna!



 ;D ;D ;D

I'm getting 20M6 by M2, which is yet another 20 m monobander, but it has a much longer boom than my current LJ-205CA by Hy-Gain. Currently I have 5 elements on a 34 foot (10.4 meters) long boom. The new one will have 6 elements on a 59 foot (18 meters) long boom.

It may end up being a disappointment if the improvement is insignificant, but I've been dreaming about a longer boom for the past couple of years and I just have to give it a try.  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE

Sure would be interested in the Long John if you sell it.

Jim


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 21, 2018, 12:19:13 AM

Sure would be interested in the Long John if you sell it.

Jim


Jim,

Yes, I will have no need for it (unless I will be unable to install the new monster antenna for some reason).

The Long John is an excellent antenna (it actually won 20m DX Marathon 3 years in a row  ;D ), I'm just not sure how to package it to ship it to you. I'll see if the new antenna comes in some useful re-usable packaging.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W4AMP on June 21, 2018, 08:02:58 AM

Sure would be interested in the Long John if you sell it.

Jim


Jim,

Yes, I will have no need for it (unless I will be unable to install the new monster antenna for some reason).

The Long John is an excellent antenna (it actually won 20m DX Marathon 3 years in a row  ;D ), I'm just not sure how to package it to ship it to you. I'll see if the new antenna comes in some useful re-usable packaging.

Marvin VE3VEE

Thanks
w4amp at att dot net


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W5TD on June 22, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
Wow!  With a 59 foot boom 20 meter monoband I might never leave 20 meters, except to go to 6 meters when it is open!  I don't think my yard is 59 feet wide.

73 John AF5CC


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: ZL1BBW on June 22, 2018, 09:58:36 PM
Will we get another video of the monster being hauled aloft?
Gavin ZL1BBW


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 22, 2018, 11:13:34 PM
Will we get another video of the monster being hauled aloft?
Gavin ZL1BBW

If I don't run into problems installing the monster, then yes, photos and/or a video will follow. The UPS Freight shipment successfully crossed the USA / Canada border on Friday. It will likely arrive to my remote QTH on Monday. I plan to go there (a 6 hour round trip from my home) a week from now. If all goes well, I'll be installing the new antenna in the middle of the KH1 expedition.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: ZL1BBW on June 22, 2018, 11:22:14 PM
Great, really keen to see this monster, compared to measly 4 ele.

Good luck and be careful.

Gavin ZL1BBW


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 23, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
I just worked the team heading to Baker Island, KH7Z/MM on 14.090 MHz in the DXpedition FT8 mode. Their signal is fantastic, between +7 and +13 dB in the past 10 minutes. It's 3 am here, or 0700 UTC.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3GA on June 24, 2018, 09:01:12 PM
Seems they may be early, according to their latest update:

“Our original timetable was to be QRV by 05:00 UTC 27 June.  We think we will beat that by 24 hours.”

Graham VK3GA


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 24, 2018, 11:41:10 PM
As early as tomorrow afternoon Graham, Woohoo!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 25, 2018, 12:45:12 AM
That would be fantastic!

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 25, 2018, 02:29:54 AM
Looking at their GPS map, in my estimation, they could arrive close to the island in about six and a half hours from now, at around 0400 their local time. It will be a perfect timing because their sunrise will be at 0544, so they will have the entire day to get on the island and start building their QTH. The weather forecast is good. 

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 25, 2018, 05:16:17 AM
Looking Good!

I was getting anxious about their getting there late, and me missing them.

Now I'm looking forward to my third ATNO this year, after zero last year this is a bonanza!

I have already pointed my beams to 53 degrees in readiness.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: MM0NDX on June 25, 2018, 10:51:24 AM
NEWS UPDATE – The KH1/KH7Z team are now anchored offshore Baker Island.

https://dx-world.net/kh1-kh7z-baker-island-dxpedition/ …

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgjgyESXkAABCEc.jpg)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N6YFM on June 25, 2018, 12:57:34 PM
This is the first time I will monitor one of these and try to connect.
Where do I learn what frequencies/bands/modes they may use?

Thanks,

Neal


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WA8UEG on June 25, 2018, 12:59:55 PM
This is the first time I will monitor one of these and try to connect.
Where do I learn what frequencies/bands/modes they may use?

Thanks,

Neal

http://www.baker2018.net/pages/donate.html (http://www.baker2018.net/pages/donate.html)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WA8UEG on June 25, 2018, 01:07:02 PM
Well, my phone app alert are all set for KH1. Shouldn't be long now.

WOW, how things have changed. I get an alert on my phone, go to the shack and work the station then confirm it's in their log on club log. After it's over use OQRS to QSL and in a week or so, sometimes sooner the country is confirmed.

Almost seems like cheating but a heck of a lot better then the good ole days ;D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on June 25, 2018, 01:47:05 PM
They have arrived! They will be there ten or eleven days - which means only one weekend - going to be crazy!

http://www.callingdx.com/KH1-KH7Z-Baker-Island-DXpedition.htm


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 25, 2018, 07:11:37 PM
A good test for my new IC-7300 a DX virgin!  :o


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 25, 2018, 07:22:41 PM
I'm pretty much set and ready to go. With all the hype about the FT8 dxpedition mode, I'm really curious to try to get my first QSO with them in that mode just to see how it all works. I picked up and tested/connected a computer control cable to work with the software so it can make the radio do what it needs to do. It will be interesting to see the QSO rates. Of course I'll want them on CW/SSB and other bands if I can get them. Not sure how difficult a path it will be from NJ.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3MEG on June 26, 2018, 02:36:14 AM
a little dissapointed they have been there 14 + hours i thought they might have 1 station up and running would be the smart thing to do 40m / 20m get the qso's started whittle away the big guns. i suppose its their money i only need 1 slot then the pressure is off we have some nice sporadic e's even 10m mightr have been possible


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 26, 2018, 03:18:14 AM
a little dissapointed they have been there 14 + hours i thought they might have 1 station up and running would be the smart thing to do 40m / 20m get the qso's started whittle away the big guns. i suppose its their money i only need 1 slot then the pressure is off we have some nice sporadic e's even 10m mightr have been possible


I woke up at their sunset hoping to catch them when they start, but they didn't. Excellent CONDX on 20m though.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K9NW on June 26, 2018, 04:37:33 AM
Quote
a little dissapointed they have been there 14 + hours i thought they might have 1 station up and running would be the smart thing to do 40m / 20m get the qso's started whittle away the big guns. i suppose its their money i only need 1 slot then the pressure is off we have some nice sporadic e's even 10m mightr have been possible

Usually the DXpedition has to be QRV for a minute and a half before the critiques start (wrong band, wrong mode, wrong time, wrong op, wrong audience, wrong *, etc.)

Why speculate?  http://kh7z.net/ and http://baker2018.net/ have all the scoop.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 26, 2018, 04:54:46 AM
Quote
a little dissapointed they have been there 14 + hours i thought they might have 1 station up and running would be the smart thing to do 40m / 20m get the qso's started whittle away the big guns. i suppose its their money i only need 1 slot then the pressure is off we have some nice sporadic e's even 10m mightr have been possible

Usually the DXpedition has to be QRV for a minute and a half before the critiques start (wrong band, wrong mode, wrong time, wrong op, wrong audience, wrong *, etc.)

Why speculate?  http://kh7z.net/ and http://baker2018.net/ have all the scoop.

I don't think it was a criticism or a speculation. And, by the way, if you read the postings at the first link you provided, you will find the following two sentences: "Our original timetable was to be QRV by 05:00 UTC 27 June.  We think we will beat that by 24 hours". So I don't think it was unreasonable for people to be at their radios on the 26th at or after 0500z.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on June 26, 2018, 06:40:42 AM
Why not just wait, until it happens?

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WA8UEG on June 26, 2018, 08:49:31 AM
They unloaded and setup tents, generators, etc etc etc in 100+ degree weather, they deserve rest before they get started, not like it's a 3 day DXPedtion plenty of time to work them.



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 26, 2018, 09:26:19 AM
Why not just wait, until it happens?

Where's the fun in that?  ;)  ;D  ;D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 26, 2018, 09:45:43 AM
Why not just wait, until it happens?

FIRST QSO bragging rights


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on June 26, 2018, 10:05:06 AM
Why not just wait, until it happens?

Where's the fun in that?  ;)  ;D  ;D
True.

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on June 26, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
Why not just wait, until it happens?

FIRST QSO bragging rights
I forget that Principle.

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on June 26, 2018, 10:08:42 AM
This is the first time I will monitor one of these and try to connect.
Where do I learn what frequencies/bands/modes they may use?

Thanks,

Neal

Hey Neal,

This is what you're looking for:  http://baker2018.net/pages/plan.html (http://baker2018.net/pages/plan.html)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on June 26, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
This is the first time I will monitor one of these and try to connect.
Where do I learn what frequencies/bands/modes they may use?

Thanks,

Neal

Hey Neal,

This is what you're looking for:  http://baker2018.net/pages/plan.html (http://baker2018.net/pages/plan.html)

Tnx de K0UA


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 26, 2018, 01:26:47 PM

Why not just wait, until it happens?


Exactly!  ;D

For some strange reason, some people just like to tune up and down the band in search of what's likely not there anyway. Why don't they just turn their radios off and wait for their DX alarms like everybody else???  ;D ;D ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 26, 2018, 05:39:49 PM
Why don't they just turn their radios off and wait for their DX alarms like everybody else???  ;D ;D ;D

Marvin VE3VEE

I'm glued to the cluster and this thread.  :D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD7HNN on June 26, 2018, 08:41:35 PM
Not gonna name names, but I've heard some of the folks who post in this forum over the years in pile-ups, as well as giving questionable operating advice here. Might be a good time to review;)

http://www.dx-code.org/ (http://www.dx-code.org/)

Good luck!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 26, 2018, 10:25:51 PM
Why don't they just turn their radios off and wait for their DX alarms like everybody else???  ;D ;D ;D

Marvin VE3VEE

I'm glued to the cluster and this thread.  :D

I just woke up... just before their sunset (0100 my time)... to read this thread!  ;D ;D ;D

CONDX must be bad, no one has posted anything here yet.  ;D ;D ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 26, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
http://kh7z.net/2018/06/27/station-building-progress-6-27-2018-0500z-update/

Guess we can get some ZZZs.   :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 01:14:15 AM
VK and JA stations started to spot KH1/KH7Z on 14.210. It's 0800 Z, no propagation from here at this time, time for me to go ZZZ.  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 27, 2018, 01:18:49 AM
Weak here on 14210.

Not even going to try.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 27, 2018, 01:46:47 AM
Not strong here and QSB on 14210 kHz, but I popped my call in and was heard!

The op seems to be hearing very well. Stations calling aren't so responsive.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 27, 2018, 02:37:32 AM
Spotted on 14.210 and 7022.5. Nothing heard on 20 and I can just hear something in the noise on 40 but not even remotely loud enough to call (yet). Just getting into our greyline though.. let's see what happens as the sun comes up.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KY6R on June 27, 2018, 03:21:14 AM
S9 +10 at one point on 40M - great op. Just starting to hear them on 160M - with all preamps off (summer noise). Chip shot from here though . .

Good luck.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 27, 2018, 03:27:19 AM
Heard them on 40M working long string of JA's then they switched to NA only.

The op I heard was not working extreme splits, sticking in the range of 1 to 4 up.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on June 27, 2018, 04:18:34 AM
Stayed up way too late, waiting for them to show up last night. Finally hit the sack @06:00z

Got up for work at 09:30z, nothing heard on 160m, decent signal on 40m.

#330




Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K5PS on June 27, 2018, 04:47:19 AM
Hearing them about s5 here in NTX on 40m CW @ 0600 local just before heading off to work. Good sized pile going.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: AE5X on June 27, 2018, 05:05:34 AM
Got em on 40m CW. Looking forward to trying out the FT8 DXpedition mode later.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 27, 2018, 05:31:22 AM
For me on 40 they came up a bit around 0930 - 0950 then back down in the mud. We share greyline with JA as they were working back and forth between JA/NA. Gonna have my work cut out for me on CW.

Really curious to see how FT8 goes..


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 27, 2018, 06:47:35 AM

Really curious to see how FT8 goes..

May be a mess if people don't read the F & H operating instructions. I'm looking at 14.090 now and a Puerto Rican station is calling KH1 directly in the Fox area (I don't see KH1 calling CQ). If a lot of stations do that it will be a hot mess.  :(

Oh now somebody just sent "GET OFF FREQ" in FT8! Oh my ...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 27, 2018, 07:35:30 AM

Really curious to see how FT8 goes..

May be a mess if people don't read the F & H operating instructions. I'm looking at 14.090 now and a Puerto Rican station is calling KH1 directly in the Fox area (I don't see KH1 calling CQ). If a lot of stations do that it will be a hot mess.  :(

Oh now somebody just sent "GET OFF FREQ" in FT8! Oh my ...

Hams are notorious for not reading anything.  I wouldn't expect more than 10% to read the instructions on using Fox and Hound.

Yes, I saw the spot on 14.090.  Many calling but the DX station is missing.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 27, 2018, 10:42:40 AM

Really curious to see how FT8 goes..

May be a mess if people don't read the F & H operating instructions. I'm looking at 14.090 now and a Puerto Rican station is calling KH1 directly in the Fox area (I don't see KH1 calling CQ). If a lot of stations do that it will be a hot mess.  :(

Oh now somebody just sent "GET OFF FREQ" in FT8! Oh my ...

Hams are notorious for not reading anything.  I wouldn't expect more than 10% to read the instructions on using Fox and Hound.

Yes, I saw the spot on 14.090.  Many calling but the DX station is missing.

73,

Chris  NU1O

FT8 comes with instructions? Psssssssh... who needs those??  ??? ??? ??? ::)

LOL.. yeah I guess we're gonna have FT8 frequency cops too now.  >:(

I spent a fair amount of time going through the documentation, watching a couple of videos on dxpedition mode, picked up a "CAT" cable for my Icom, etc to prepare for this dxpedition mode in FT8. I wish I had time to participate in some of the testing they did kept having time conflicts.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 02:36:01 PM
Congrats to those who have KH1 in their logs already! For me things got a bit more complicated: my rotator stopped working about 30 minutes ago! It's pointed to 35 degrees (KH1 is 270 degrees from here), so I may be out of luck! Oh well, I was QRT for over 25 years, I will survive a few weeks (or months) of being QRT again, no?  ;D

It's unpleasant, but things do happen, it's not the end of the world. If I don't work KH1 now, at least I may experience the thrill of working another DXpedition to Baker some 10, 15, or 20 years from now. GL to you all!

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 27, 2018, 02:47:21 PM
Congrats to those who have KH1 in their logs already! For me things got a bit more complicated: my rotator stopped working about 30 minutes ago! It's pointed to 35 degrees (KH1 is 270 degrees from here), so I may be out of luck! Oh well, I was QRT for over 25 years, I will survive a few weeks (or months) of being QRT again, no?  ;D

It's unpleasant, but things do happen, it's not the end of the world. If I don't work KH1 now, at least I may experience the thrill of working another DXpedition to Baker some 10, 15, or 20 years from now. GL to you all!

Marvin VE3VEE

My main amplifier (Alpha 8410) was shipped for repair at the beginning of the month and should've been returned by now so I'm uneasy without a backup amp.  Sorry that happened to you but you still have an option. Try working them long path.  You have an antenna which will make the trip if there's an opening.

I'm 58.  I want to work them this trip.  They may never get permission to operate from there again.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: AE5X on June 27, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
my rotator stopped working about 30 minutes ago! It's pointed to 35 degrees

Can you climb up and rotate by hand?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD8MJR on June 27, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
Congrats to those who have KH1 in their logs already! For me things got a bit more complicated: my rotator stopped working about 30 minutes ago! It's pointed to 35 degrees (KH1 is 270 degrees from here), so I may be out of luck! Oh well, I was QRT for over 25 years, I will survive a few weeks (or months) of being QRT again, no?  ;D

It's unpleasant, but things do happen, it's not the end of the world. If I don't work KH1 now, at least I may experience the thrill of working another DXpedition to Baker some 10, 15, or 20 years from now. GL to you all!

Marvin VE3VEE

Marvin when you say the rotator stopped what kind of problem is it?  Is there voltage coming out of the rotator controller and going to the motor?  If it's a controller problem you could probably use a car battery and turn the antenna.


Rob


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 03:02:19 PM

Can you climb up and rotate by hand?


Unfortunately not. It's a 100ft tilt-over mast. It's not possible to climb it. To do any work, I have to lower the thing down. It's a complicated process. I suspect something may be mechanically wrong with the Prosistel PST-71 rotor, but I'm not sure. What complicates identifying the issue is that fact that my QTH is a 6 hour round trip from home. There's only so much I can do remotely.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 03:07:20 PM

Marvin when you say the rotator stopped what kind of problem is it?  Is there voltage coming out of the rotator controller and going to the motor?  If it's a controller problem you could probably use a car battery and turn the antenna.

Rob


Rob, in about 10 minutes I will be speaking on the phone with the maker of Green Heron RT-21 rotor controller. He may be able to ID the problem remotely.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on June 27, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
Congrats to those who have KH1 in their logs already! For me things got a bit more complicated: my rotator stopped working about 30 minutes ago! It's pointed to 35 degrees (KH1 is 270 degrees from here), so I may be out of luck! Oh well, I was QRT for over 25 years, I will survive a few weeks (or months) of being QRT again, no?  ;D

It's unpleasant, but things do happen, it's not the end of the world. If I don't work KH1 now, at least I may experience the thrill of working another DXpedition to Baker some 10, 15, or 20 years from now. GL to you all!

Marvin VE3VEE

Backup antenna? Dipole or vertical or???


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 27, 2018, 03:39:02 PM

Marvin when you say the rotator stopped what kind of problem is it?  Is there voltage coming out of the rotator controller and going to the motor?  If it's a controller problem you could probably use a car battery and turn the antenna.

Rob


Rob, in about 10 minutes I will be speaking on the phone with the maker of Green Heron RT-21 rotor controller. He may be able to ID the problem remotely.

Marvin VE3VEE

Good luck Marvin, I hope you get it worked out.

Hmm... not a peep heard on the 20m or 17m spots this afternoon.. so far it looks like the only window I have a chance at hearing them so far is in the morning. This one's gonna be tough.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 03:52:26 PM

Good luck Marvin, I hope you get it worked out.


I just spoke with Jeff, the manufacturer of my Green Heron RT-21 controller. After describing to him what I see remotely via his  RT-21 Setup Utility, he thinks my rotor has developed a mechanical issue. I will likely be QRT for a while (months). But I will be back.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 27, 2018, 04:16:25 PM
Unfortunately not. It's a 100ft tilt-over mast. It's not possible to climb it. To do any work, I have to lower the thing down. It's a complicated process. I suspect something may be mechanically wrong with the Prosistel PST-71 rotor, but I'm not sure. What complicates identifying the issue is that fact that my QTH is a 6 hour round trip from home. There's only so much I can do remotely.

Marvin VE3VEE

Dang - there's gotta be something you can do!  ???


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on June 27, 2018, 04:17:08 PM
Throw that prosistel in the local landfill. If the motor doesn't get waterlogged, the azimuth pot goes bad, the shafts shear like butter, bolts fall out, gears strip, sheesh it never ended with those things. The Orion is a much better rotor for stuff up to a 5 el 20 then a k7nv prop pitch is the absolute right way to go. Wish I was closer I'd come and help you.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on June 27, 2018, 04:17:27 PM
Sorry to hear that Marvin.

Just worked them on 20 cw.  Not too strong, but I'm in the log.  



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on June 27, 2018, 04:19:37 PM
Speaking of which, is there an online log?



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 04:27:53 PM
Throw that prosistel in the local landfill. If the motor doesn't get waterlogged, the azimuth pot goes bad, the shafts shear like butter, bolts fall out, gears strip, sheesh it never ended with those things. The Orion is a much better rotor for stuff up to a 5 el 20 then a k7nv prop pitch is the absolute right way to go. Wish I was closer I'd come and help you.

Thanks. For some reason, the Orion rotor has bad reviews on eHam. How much are those prop pitch rotors?

I cannot hear KH1 at all with my antenna pointed north north east.  >:(

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on June 27, 2018, 04:31:45 PM
Congrats to those who have KH1 in their logs already! For me things got a bit more complicated: my rotator stopped working about 30 minutes ago! It's pointed to 35 degrees (KH1 is 270 degrees from here), so I may be out of luck! Oh well, I was QRT for over 25 years, I will survive a few weeks (or months) of being QRT again, no?  ;D

It's unpleasant, but things do happen, it's not the end of the world. If I don't work KH1 now, at least I may experience the thrill of working another DXpedition to Baker some 10, 15, or 20 years from now. GL to you all!

Marvin VE3VEE
I'm sorry you are having rotator problems Marvin. My radio went south during the Heard Is. operation.
 
Well at least it happen before you put up the new  antenna?

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 27, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
Lookin' at 14.090 FT8. As I suspected too many people don't have a clue how to use F&H mode, they are just calling KH1 in the Fox area directly. I'm not even sure most of the callers in the right area are even seeing his signal I think they just had a reflex reaction to the DX cluster spot.

It's gonna be a loooooong DXpedition.  >:(


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 27, 2018, 05:10:07 PM
Lookin' at 14.090 FT8. As I suspected too many people don't have a clue how to use F&H mode, they are just calling KH1 in the Fox area directly. I'm not even sure most of the callers in the right area are even seeing his signal I think they just had a reflex reaction to the DX cluster spot.

It's gonna be a loooooong DXpedition.  >:(

Yup I'm watching as well. Some guys have calling in the fox area for almost an hour. They're not gonna see you there! The only issue though is that they are potentially stepping on someone else when pulled into the fox area.

I do see a few guys making it through. I do hope that they are getting some of the QSO rates (4 or 5 per clip) that they were hoping for. I don't see any trace of KH1/KH7Z so I'm just observing for now. I'm hoping they'll do some 40m FT8 at our sunrise.. so far that's the only band I've heard them on from here.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1VT on June 27, 2018, 05:48:56 PM
One way around the rotator problem may be to try 17 meters with a tuner, where the antenna may no longer have a significant F/B ratio.

Zak W1VT


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 27, 2018, 06:00:01 PM
One way around the rotator problem may be to try 17 meters with a tuner, where the antenna may no longer have a significant F/B ratio.

Zak W1VT

Good idea. I've done a couple of QSOs on 17m with my 20m antenna. It could be something that could work later in the DXpedition, when there are fewer callers.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 27, 2018, 07:07:53 PM
One antenna?

One radio?

One amplifier?

No redundancy!

You're not missing much on 20 m. On 14023, it's Grandpas Behaving Badly.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on June 27, 2018, 08:09:51 PM
They have a good signal at 14.023 this moment in STX.

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: EI2GLB on June 27, 2018, 10:41:59 PM
Whats the new antenna Marvin I follow you on Facebook and seen the UPS post but no details of the antenna??

GL with KH1 hope you manage to snag them,

73
Trevor
EI2GLB


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6UV on June 27, 2018, 11:18:24 PM
Worked them on 20M SSB/CW/FT8 this evening. Good signals here. CW was by far the hardest with all of the lids calling constantly.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: ZL1BBW on June 27, 2018, 11:36:52 PM
Have heard calls for USA, JA EU,   when do I pile into the fray?

ZL1BBW Gavin


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WO7R on June 27, 2018, 11:38:02 PM
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You're not missing much on 20 m. On 14023, it's Grandpas Behaving Badly.

No kidding.  It was far, far easier to get in the log on FT8 and SSB.  What a lidfest on CW.

But on FT8, I had the sound off and was in the log in three calls.  Whatever jamming was being attempted was unheard and ineffective.  SSB was about the same.  Everyone was reasonably well behaved actually.  CW, I lost track, but probably at least an hour.  Yes, it's a chip shot from here, but it certainly was a lot easier on the other two modes.  The difference was without question the idiots who called out of turn, zero beated right on frequency -- all the usual crap.

Still very happy to get my CW Q despite the high imbecile quotient.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on June 28, 2018, 12:52:30 AM
Whats the new antenna Marvin I follow you on Facebook and seen the UPS post but no details of the antenna??

GL with KH1 hope you manage to snag them,

73
Trevor
EI2GLB

Trevor,

It's 20M6 by M2, six elements for 14 MHz on a 59 feet (18 meters) long boom.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD8MJR on June 28, 2018, 01:39:06 AM
I heard then for a solid hour on 20m ssb and the pileup was mostly lid free.
The only problem were sudden flare ups of QRN and QSB.
I am waiting for an online log before getting too excited.
Op was great  BTW.

73
Rob


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9CM on June 28, 2018, 01:53:20 AM
Won't be too hard to work, much like KH6 or KH7....
Decent signal, with lots of kids behaving badly, but very doable...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on June 28, 2018, 02:28:33 AM
Disgusting display of liddage last night on cw. Enough to make me shut the radio off and walk away.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 28, 2018, 03:39:04 AM
I saw them for a little bit on 30m ft8 around 5-530am local time but they were working mostly JA's with a US station getting through here and there. I had maybe 15-20 mins to try before they faded out. Yikes.. hoping to find some other additional times to hear them to get a better chance at working them.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K5PS on June 28, 2018, 03:48:50 AM
They were fading in and out here on 30m FT8 this morning just before local SR, but managed to work them (I think?)

It appeared to me that they were operating as many as 4 separate encoders - saw several times where multiple QSOs were being answered simultaneously. Did anyone else see it that way?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 28, 2018, 03:50:34 AM
Tried to work them on 40m SSB this morning, but couldn't get them to hear me. The op seemed to be having problems hearing NA.

So, I went to 30m FT8 and about 15 minutes later....

(https://i.imgur.com/YRtVBEE.jpg)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W9CN on June 28, 2018, 04:04:42 AM
Won't be too hard to work, much like KH6 or KH7....
Decent signal, with lots of kids behaving badly, but very doable...

The Bad News:
The LIDs were out in force last night on 20M SSB. 

Split operation seems to escape many.  RTFM please and practice into a dummy load before hopping into one of the most wanted entities pileup.   

K3RA transmitted his call continuously of more than an hour without taking a breath or listening.  Don't know how he thought that was going to work.

Someone had their TX on VOX on 14.210 and it would intermittently key up with room noise which was always helpful.

And then there were the typically paralytic bedwetters who just had to tune up on the DX frequency, for what seemed like minutes at a time.

There were more than a few "Rio Linda" Operators who didn't know their own calls weren't the ones the DX station was asking for (Really he was asking for a W7 and you are a KA4 and you kept calling because?).   More than a few admonitions from the DX op for that misbehavior.

The Good News:
The KH1 operator was world class with the patience of Job.  He got the TX frequency spread out (to get away from K3RA and someone with a carrier on continuously) and had a professional demeanor and a great set of ears.  Can't say enough good things about the op and I really appreciated him putting me in the log.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K8AC on June 28, 2018, 04:21:24 AM
Worked on 30M FT8 an hour after my sunrise today.  Able to see 3-4 of the Fox signals.  Few stations calling.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 28, 2018, 04:28:59 AM
I didn't need this one for an ATNO since I worked K1B on 10, 15, and 20 SSB. However the real pressure for me was CW, since, following the re-addition of Kure to the DXCC list, I was dropped back to being one-shy of the CW Honor Roll. Bouvet was supposed to have remedied that but we all know that tale. I knew this would be a challenge for me. I missed yesterday's 40m CW opening since I was still asleep, but I started seeing spots on 20 CW just after 22z. Light to me, but workable. Surprisingly got in the log after only a handful of calls, for a big load off my mind. They were much weaker on 17 SSB a couple of hours later, and thanks to frequency cops, I'm not sure they got my call.

The most surprising of all was how easy FT8 was last night on 20. Only 4 calls with about 500W got them in the log with a -9 report. I'm really liking F&H mode. I sat there monitoring for a couple of hours afterward to get a better feel for the overall rhythm of F&H. They had 4 TX slots going and everything seemed to be going along easily. This morning it was a battle on 40 SSB to get in the log. Heavy thunderstorms with plenty of lightning all around me, but "go big or go home" and all that. Took about 45 minutes, and them working by numbers, but I finally got the new bandfill nice and clean. The real lowbands are going to be a struggle, it would appear. I wasn't seeing a print on the Fox on 30m FT8 and I figured I was about a couple of hours too late, however they came right back up and I banged 'em off pretty easily after that. Just need 3 more bands; 12, 80 and 160. I think 12 and 80 might be doable if the fates allow, but I have my doubts about Topband at this time of year.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on June 28, 2018, 05:08:24 AM
Hey Peter...I gottem on 160 this morning.  First time ever for me for a new one in the summertime on 160.  18dB of attenuation with noise reduction and the RF gain dialed back about halfway.  AF wide open and 150 Hz bandwidth.  APF set at 80 Hz.  Fighting the JAs too as it seems we're sharing the greyline with them.  That was around 1050Z and I was struggling to hear them while guys in 4 & 5 land seemed to be getting thru easily.  Then they really peaked up around 1130Z @ my sunrise.  Almost gone now @1200Z.  Coulda been a lot easier if I'd waited a half hour!  CU in the pileup on 80m!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 28, 2018, 05:14:54 AM
Yeah, you've got a thousand mile plus headstart and better prop to the west. Definitely going to be tough here on 160, however after today there are no storms forecast along the east coast for the next week so the QRN will be less. Hot as blazes, but no storms. I've worked a bit of 160 summertime DX, but not much and nothing nearly that far.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on June 28, 2018, 05:18:01 AM
Yeah, you've got a thousand mile plus headstart and better prop to the west. Definitely going to be tough here on 160

Yep, I don't deny that.  Still I can't compete with the big guns in W6 & W7 tho with my measly inverted L.  GL.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N4UW on June 28, 2018, 05:27:41 AM
I do not need this one for ATNO, but decided to give it a shot on 30 mtr FT8 this morning. Their band plan web page plainly states to wait until you decode a CQ before calling them. I watched for over an hour during my local sunrise. Could see them working lots of stations, but never did see a CQ. Went ahead and called them 4 times with 50 watts to an 80-10 OCF dipole, and to my surprise, they answered 2 minutes later. I even got a stronger report than I gave them.

I've seen quite a few stations calling them below the 1 KHz boundary, which is not supposed to happen if they are running the latest version of WSJT-X in hound mode. Guess a few folks haven't figured that out yet. Imagine that.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on June 28, 2018, 05:33:38 AM
@N4UW

Good job.  Guess I'm gonna hafta cave and download that software.  Been digging my heals on that one.  A RTTY QSO would be nice.  Not an ATNO here either, but looking for some fills.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 28, 2018, 05:37:23 AM
I've seen quite a few stations calling them below the 1 KHz boundary, which is not supposed to happen if they are running the latest version of WSJT-X in hound mode. Guess a few folks haven't figured that out yet. Imagine that.
I wish there was a provision within the WSJT-X architecture to time itself out after x weeks or months, disabling the ability to transmit and forcing the user to upgrade to the latest version in order to continue using the mode. DXpedition mode is great, but hampered by idiot users (ab)using older software.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on June 28, 2018, 05:50:56 AM
I've seen quite a few stations calling them below the 1 KHz boundary, which is not supposed to happen if they are running the latest version of WSJT-X in hound mode. Guess a few folks haven't figured that out yet. Imagine that.
I wish there was a provision within the WSJT-X architecture to time itself out after x weeks or months, disabling the ability to transmit and forcing the user to upgrade to the latest version in order to continue using the mode. DXpedition mode is great, but hampered by idiot users (ab)using older software.

Some are abusing the newer software too!... Just to busy to read the instructions I guess. :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: AA6YQ on June 28, 2018, 05:51:47 AM
Did anyone in the US northeast hear them on 160m this morning? I don't see any spots below 30m.

      73,

             Dave, AA6YQ


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on June 28, 2018, 06:31:26 AM
MHOS

Maxwell House On Screen  ;D

Won't be too hard to work, much like KH6 or KH7....
Decent signal, with lots of kids behaving badly, but very doable...

The Bad News:
The LIDs were out in force last night on 20M SSB. 

Split operation seems to escape many.  RTFM please and practice into a dummy load before hopping into one of the most wanted entities pileup.   

K3RA transmitted his call continuously of more than an hour without taking a breath or listening.  Don't know how he thought that was going to work.

Someone had their TX on VOX on 14.210 and it would intermittently key up with room noise which was always helpful.

And then there were the typically paralytic bedwetters who just had to tune up on the DX frequency, for what seemed like minutes at a time.

There were more than a few "Rio Linda" Operators who didn't know their own calls weren't the ones the DX station was asking for (Really he was asking for a W7 and you are a KA4 and you kept calling because?).   More than a few admonitions from the DX op for that misbehavior.

The Good News:
The KH1 operator was world class with the patience of Job.  He got the TX frequency spread out (to get away from K3RA and someone with a carrier on continuously) and had a professional demeanor and a great set of ears.  Can't say enough good things about the op and I really appreciated him putting me in the log.



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD0PO on June 28, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
Their band plan web page plainly states to wait until you decode a CQ before calling them.

I watched for more than an hour on 20 last night and never saw a "CQ" so I never worked them....

Ray


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD0PO on June 28, 2018, 07:05:58 AM
Did anyone in the US northeast hear them on 160m this morning? I don't see any spots below 30m.

      73,

             Dave, AA6YQ

I'm in SEOK, and did hear them well at my sunrise...
It was a very short window.

Ray


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB8GAE on June 28, 2018, 07:06:32 AM
I saw them for a little bit on 30m ft8 around 5-530am local time but they were working mostly JA's with a US station getting through here and there. I had maybe 15-20 mins to try before they faded out. Yikes.. hoping to find some other additional times to hear them to get a better chance at working them.
They were fading in and out here on 30m FT8 this morning just before local SR, but managed to work them (I think?)

It appeared to me that they were operating as many as 4 separate encoders - saw several times where multiple QSOs were being answered simultaneously. Did anyone else see it that way?
I was on 30m before SR and saw as many as 5 xmit slots.  The op was doing a great job running at a good rate with the majority of qso's being with JA's.

Their signal faded here about the same time as KB2FCV just a little before my SR.

No joy here yet.  GL to all.


73's Rich KB8GAE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: AE5X on June 28, 2018, 07:07:15 AM
FT8 DX mode question:

If they (KH1) call CQ, will they be received with a higher signal strength than their individual transmissions on multiple freqs since (during CQ) their power is confined to only one frequency?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 28, 2018, 07:16:42 AM
Top two most repeatedly loaded pages on the whole interweb in past day: http://baker2018.net/pages/log.html and https://clublog.org/charts/?c=KH1/KH7Z


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 28, 2018, 07:56:41 AM
Their band plan web page plainly states to wait until you decode a CQ before calling them. I watched for over an hour during my local sunrise. Could see them working lots of stations, but never did see a CQ. Went ahead and called them 4 times with 50 watts to an 80-10 OCF dipole, and to my surprise, they answered 2 minutes later. I even got a stronger report than I gave them.

Same here. I didn't bother waiting for a CQ. You're never going to see one while they're getting pounded by callers. It took all of 5-6 minutes to get a response and contact on 30m FT8 this morning.

Quote
I've seen quite a few stations calling them below the 1 KHz boundary, which is not supposed to happen if they are running the latest version of WSJT-X in hound mode. Guess a few folks haven't figured that out yet. Imagine that.

You know what I call people who can't following instructions? NIL  ;)  :D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on June 28, 2018, 08:13:38 AM
Even worse are the idiots down there calling CQ on 14.090 below 1000 hz..  Why for are they doing that?  I give up.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 28, 2018, 08:38:00 AM
Even worse are the idiots down there calling CQ on 14.090 below 1000 hz..  Why for are they doing that?

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Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 28, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Even worse are the idiots down there calling CQ on 14.090 below 1000 hz..  Why for are they doing that?  I give up.

Yea it's gonna be a learning curve this time for a lot of people who haven't read the manual for the F&H mode. Hopefully after this DXpedition it will become apparent to a lot more people that there is another mode of FT8 that is being used.

RTFM ...  :P


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 28, 2018, 10:29:50 AM
Yea it's gonna be a learning curve this time for a lot of people who haven't read the manual for the F&H mode. Hopefully after this DXpedition it will become apparent to a lot more people that there is another mode of FT8 that is being used.
RTFM ...  :P

And thus I repeat the mantra "...and soon there will be DX for all, although more for some than for others."


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WO7R on June 28, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
Quote
FT8 DX mode question:

If they (KH1) call CQ, will they be received with a higher signal strength than their individual transmissions on multiple freqs since (during CQ) their power is confined to only one frequency?

Unlikely.  To get the multiple streams going, FT8's high duty cycle requires that the actual input power of the rig or rig/amp be reduced and fairly substantially at that.

They could boost the power for the CQ messages, but that is a lot of fiddling.

It is also poor pileup management.  No point in enticing marginal stations to join the fray if they can only decode that extra strong CQ message once in a while.

Remember, too, that the signal report is not an absolute.  It is a complex beast that I read up on once and forgot, but the report essentially encompasses all that is happening in the receiver's window.  In Fox and Hound mode, that should be only the DX, but if there are stray tuners and jammers, not necessarily so.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on June 28, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Not to mention your receivers bandwidth, and local noise, both man made and natural all figure into this, and not to mention propagation is in constant flux on a second to second basis. As signal report has very little meaning, and that is often only for a second in time.

It has always been thus, but now that we actually have a number placed on it that you can stare at on a computer screen, instead of a dynamically pumping S meter it becomes even more apparent.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KN7K on June 28, 2018, 12:19:09 PM
Does anyboby know how FT8 accounted toward DXCC?
Let's say I work DX station CW on 20 and 15m. Both QSO will be getting  as a new Country on each Band.
FT8 probably going to be added to Digital Mode only.
So, if I work KH1 on 2 o 3 bands FT8, am I getting credit for Digital Mode only or it will be going to each Band as well? Or in other words, does it make sence to work themFT8  on several bands toward DSCC or Challenge?
Worked them FT8 on 20m and 30m.
Thanks
Sergey, KN7K


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 28, 2018, 12:31:42 PM
Same here. I didn't bother waiting for a CQ. You're never going to see one while they're getting pounded by callers. It took all of 5-6 minutes to get a response and contact on 30m FT8 this morning.


I must be lucky.  I saw two CQs from them but I didn't read that part about waiting, however, I did read the instructions on Fox and Hound on the WSJT-X site.  I made my QSO, which I didn't expect last night given the utter madness, on 20 SSB at 0511 UTC.  That's number 334 for me.

I couldn't believe the number of times they were sending "QSO B4" even though they've only been QRV for less than a day.  By next week half their QSOs will be repeats if this keeps up.

It's a great feeling to have already worked them.  I don't expect to work them on many bands (maybe 40, 30, 20, and 17 if I'm lucky). I just wish they'd upload their log to Clublog so I can see I'm in the log but I clearly heard my call.

Good luck to all!

73,

Chris  NU1O

PS One thumb drive, which had all my DXpedition donation information is broken and the other is missing, and I don't see my call listed as a donor on their website.  Does anybody know if they have established a minimum donation for an expedited LoTW upload?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N6YFM on June 28, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
I just wish they'd upload their log to Clublog so I can see I'm in the log but I clearly heard my call.

Chris  NU1O


Um, how?  :-)
Have you looked at a google maps satellite view of that Island?
I can't see a building and tower for a cell phone provider, Internet ISP,
or even a Post Office shack.

Unless they dragged a Direct TV satellite internet uplink transmitter onto the island, the only
thing getting out is weak signal HF until they return to their homes after the expedition.

73,

Neal


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6UV on June 28, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
Still no Club Log uploads yet, and it's keeping us all in suspense! Come on guys! Put us out of our misery already!

My complements to the excellent operator running the pileup on 20M CW last night. World-class, which is much more than I can say for a big chunk of the pileup itself, which seemed to consist of a bunch of clueless lids probably using code readers.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 28, 2018, 01:28:59 PM
When I could copy them... I did notice.. which is cool.. they were piggy-backing sending RR73 to one station and calling another on the same transmission. Theoretically then that could be up to 10 Q's a min.. not bad. Well, gotta keep hoping to work them in that small window in the morning. Still gotta ways to go... but don't want to push it to the last min. I recall one dxpedition a couple of years ago I was in the same predicament and it literally came down to the last morning they were on the air to get em'. Talk about stressful!  :o  Hope I can work this a bit sooner. I just wish I could copy them for longer periods of time. It seems anyone I've read who have tried them on ft8 get through pretty fast.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE8EV on June 28, 2018, 01:35:17 PM
I just wish they'd upload their log to Clublog so I can see I'm in the log but I clearly heard my call.

Chris  NU1O


Um, how?  :-)
Have you looked at a google maps satellite view of that Island?
I can't see a building and tower for a cell phone provider, Internet ISP,
or even a Post Office shack.

Unless they dragged a Direct TV satellite internet uplink transmitter onto the island, the only
thing getting out is weak signal HF until they return to their homes after the expedition.

73,

Neal

Yes, that is essentially what they've done, brought along a BGAN satellite terminal.  They said they're having some minor IT issues but hope to upload to ClubLog shortly.

73
John VE8EV


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KC0W on June 28, 2018, 02:30:27 PM
which seemed to consist of a bunch of clueless lids probably using code readers.

 Like those who who use code readers in combination with the latency of operating Internet remote...........How anyone gets any satisfaction from either one is beyond me.

                                                               
                                                               Tom KC0W
   


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WO7R on June 28, 2018, 02:35:11 PM
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Does anyboby know how FT8 accounted toward DXCC?

They are counted as "Digital".  DXCC has never distinguished between RTTY, PSKxx, JT65, or FT8.  It's all in the same bucket.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WO7R on June 28, 2018, 02:41:00 PM
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Hope I can work this a bit sooner. I just wish I could copy them for longer periods of time. It seems anyone I've read who have tried them on ft8 get through pretty fast.

Yes, FT8 for the speediest, most reliable QSO in theory and (for me) so far in practice.  FT8 should also be open sooner and close later as well on a given band.

The actual maximum, because FT8 Fox-and-Hound can have multiple QSOs going, is quite high.  Practical rates may be something in the 300 per hour range and maybe more.  That would, I believe, be an unprecedented single radio rate.  As I recall, the best contesters are closer to 200/hr in traditional modes like SSB or CW.  Traditional RTTY is very hard to get that high, so this is a real plus if you need it on "digital".

My plan, in fact, is to go for FT8 on any remaining bands because I now have SSB, CW, and FT8 worked.  Until the Clublog upload happens, I won't be 100 per cent sure, but I am reasonably sure, so I am not going into "insurance contact" mode and don't expect to.  I could work SSB or CW if the band was easy enough instead, but I have had real good success with FT8 so far.

They don't want me to play "bingo" and I have no plans to do so.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on June 28, 2018, 02:51:36 PM
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Hope I can work this a bit sooner. I just wish I could copy them for longer periods of time. It seems anyone I've read who have tried them on ft8 get through pretty fast.

Yes, FT8 for the speediest, most reliable QSO in theory and (for me) so far in practice.  FT8 should also be open sooner and close later as well on a given band.


My cw qsos on 160/40/20m (don't think I was in any of those pileup longer than 5 minutes) all went faster than my FT8 qsos.

And yes, I have somewhat of a clue how to operate FT8.  :)  Don't care for it, and would prefer not to use it, but gotta go where the dx is.







Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 28, 2018, 03:40:02 PM
Does anyboby know how FT8 accounted toward DXCC?
Let's say I work DX station CW on 20 and 15m. Both QSO will be getting  as a new Country on each Band.
FT8 probably going to be added to Digital Mode only.
So, if I work KH1 on 2 o 3 bands FT8, am I getting credit for Digital Mode only or it will be going to each Band as well?

If this is new DXCC for you, and you work them on FT8 on 15m and 20m, you would earn four DXCC credits; Mixed mode, Digital mode, 15m, and 20m. You earn one credit overall for Mixed for an ATNO, one credit for each of three modes (CW, Phone, and Digital), and one credit for each band worked, from 6m through 160m, excluding 60m.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on June 28, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
I just wish they'd upload their log to Clublog so I can see I'm in the log but I clearly heard my call.

Chris  NU1O


Um, how?  :-)
Have you looked at a google maps satellite view of that Island?
I can't see a building and tower for a cell phone provider, Internet ISP,
or even a Post Office shack.

Unless they dragged a Direct TV satellite internet uplink transmitter onto the island, the only
thing getting out is weak signal HF until they return to their homes after the expedition.

73,

Neal

The same way most DXpeditions upload logs when they don't have conventional internet service.

" We are experiencing minor IT problems, and as such have not uploaded to ClubLog. We do plan on making our initial upload via BGAN satellite soon, however at this time, we do not have an exact time."

Stay abreast of their blog here: http://206.189.234.255/ (http://206.189.234.255/)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KN7K on June 28, 2018, 05:40:59 PM
Does anyboby know how FT8 accounted toward DXCC?
Let's say I work DX station CW on 20 and 15m. Both QSO will be getting  as a new Country on each Band.
FT8 probably going to be added to Digital Mode only.
So, if I work KH1 on 2 o 3 bands FT8, am I getting credit for Digital Mode only or it will be going to each Band as well?

If this is new DXCC for you, and you work them on FT8 on 15m and 20m, you would earn four DXCC credits; Mixed mode, Digital mode, 15m, and 20m. You earn one credit overall for Mixed for an ATNO, one credit for each of three modes (CW, Phone, and Digital), and one credit for each band worked, from 6m through 160m, excluding 60m.

Thank you Peter,
Worked them 20m,30m and 17m FT8. Will keep looking for other bands.
Suprised there is not much CW activity.
Sergey,KN7K


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 28, 2018, 06:21:14 PM
Just heard on "Ham Talk Live" that they plan to have the initial upload before 0300 tonight.

He also just said they have made 10,000 QSOs so far. 500 on 160.  No 10 or 12 meter openings even to Japan.  Sideband signals weak, right at the noise; hence their use of FT8.  Their CW antennas were damaged by weather but are since repaired.  6 meters to start tomorrow.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on June 28, 2018, 06:36:21 PM
Just reconstructed the station after field day and as of right now they are weak but building on 20m CW. I hear people calling them on 15 and 17m FT8, but strangely no copy here. Nothing on 15 SSB or CW right now either.

And so the chase begins. I have no 80/40 antenna right now so I will only be able to work them on the high bands...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 28, 2018, 06:45:28 PM
They also stated that not all FT8 QSOs will be in the online log, but "if you got an RR73, you are good."


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 28, 2018, 07:03:05 PM
They have put in two solid nights on 160 m, and I worked them fairly easily on the first night.

Since then, I've been waiting on them to appear on 80 m, but nothing so far?

Nice to see a bit more CW today. Picked up 15 and 20 m this morning. Hear them working NA on 17 m, but too weak here.

Not looking good for 12 or 10 m.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0IZ on June 28, 2018, 07:27:15 PM
My station is in Colorado.  Attempting to hear them on 14210 but so far not a whisper.  Farthest stations working them are MN, OH, etc.  But mostly east of even there.  Per propagation projections, Colorado and west should be slam-dunk from 0300 - 0500.  Haven't seen or heard a single station from west coast get them on 20M phone.  Strange.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3HJ on June 28, 2018, 07:48:16 PM
Barely readable with big QSB on 21285, but a good 579 on 21023 in VK3.

Conditions are "interesting"!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD0PO on June 28, 2018, 07:49:30 PM
Barely readable with big QSB on 21285, but a good 579 on 21023 in VK3.

Conditions are "interesting"!

exact same thing in SE Oklshoma

Ray


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on June 28, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
Happy dance in progress over here in NC  ;D And it only took about 10 minutes of calling on 17m... Yay!

025215  Tx      1718 ~  KH7Z KM4SII EM96      
025230 -12  0.1  414 ~  JA0ED RR73; KM4SII <...> -14
025245  Tx       888 ~  KH7Z KM4SII R-09      
025315  Tx       888 ~  KH7Z KM4SII R-09      
025330 -18  0.1  414 ~  KM4SII RR73; W0LSD <...> -16


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 28, 2018, 08:34:26 PM
Outstanding! I've got them on 17, 20 and 30 FT8. Trying on 15 now but I can't get a print on them.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on June 28, 2018, 09:10:28 PM
Best I've heard them, cw or ssb, on 20m.

FT8 on 15m loud also.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 28, 2018, 09:51:23 PM
Happy dance in progress over here in NC  ;D And it only took about 10 minutes of calling on 17m... Yay!

025215  Tx      1718 ~  KH7Z KM4SII EM96      
025230 -12  0.1  414 ~  JA0ED RR73; KM4SII <...> -14
025245  Tx       888 ~  KH7Z KM4SII R-09      
025315  Tx       888 ~  KH7Z KM4SII R-09      
025330 -18  0.1  414 ~  KM4SII RR73; W0LSD <...> -16


Nice going, Mason!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 28, 2018, 10:20:51 PM
Congrats Mason!! That's awesome!

Still no luck here. 20/17 just isn't working out for me here... not so much of a trace yet.

I think it's gotta be 30/40 at night/morning. Pretty much planning on being up at every sunrise until I run out of tries... and also gonna set my alarm every hour or so to check at night. It's gonna be CW or FT8.

No idea why I'm having so much trouble hearing this one. Will keep trying till the bitter end.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WO7R on June 28, 2018, 10:53:40 PM
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They also stated that not all FT8 QSOs will be in the online log, but "if you got an RR73, you are good."

Odd that some will be left out, but hey, it's their setup.

Anyway, by this standard, my FT8 QSOs are all good.

You can scour your own ALL.TXT and see for yourself.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on June 29, 2018, 02:08:35 AM
Easily worked on 40 ssb this morning.   Was likely JN1THL operating.   Not strong, but it appears that they can hear very well. 



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 29, 2018, 03:51:58 AM
Nothing this morning. I stayed up most of the night listening for them on 30/40.. they were on 30 ft8 for a while with maybe a decode here and there but no dice. At our sunrise they were on 40ssb, 80cw and 20m... they were way down in the mud / uncopyable. They did jump back on 30 ft8 but it was a bit too late. Oh well, tomorrow I'll try again..


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WA8UEG on June 29, 2018, 04:44:05 AM
I had the same problem, on 20 they were to weak to work but tried in the evening and starting around 10:15 they get stronger and by 10:45 they are strong. Got them last night on CW at 10:45 (local) and they were S9 with just a little QSB.

Should be the same at your place I would think.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on June 29, 2018, 04:51:02 AM
They had a better signal on 160 this morning than on 80.  Less noise, at least at my QTH.  Best from 1130Z to around 1200Z.  Booming (relatively anyway :) ) on 160 at 1150Z.  Taking NA exclusively for some time.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 29, 2018, 05:44:56 AM
http://kh7z.net/2018/06/29/june-29-1100z-update/ (http://kh7z.net/2018/06/29/june-29-1100z-update/)

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The bad news is our BGAN terminal system for log uploading refuses to link up with the bird. We have two BGAN terminals on island and neither are correctly connecting to the satalite. We will continue to work to sort this out, but right now we can’t upload logs.

I sense many dupes in the near future.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 29, 2018, 06:01:16 AM
Was hearing after my sunrise on 80M CW, heard them fine on 40M SSB working JA, Oceania, and NA, and saw them on 30M FT8.

Where are official Baker Island updates from the pilots appearing? http://baker2018.net/ "latest news" stops on June 4. Someone gave a site without a hostname (just numeric website address)?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 29, 2018, 06:12:33 AM
Where are official Baker Island updates from the pilots appearing? http://baker2018.net/ "latest news" stops on June 4. Someone gave a site without a hostname (just numeric website address)?

That IP address is for http://kh7z.net.  It was updated a little while ago.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KW4CQ on June 29, 2018, 06:23:09 AM
Not a single FT8 decode on them so far on any band in two days.  OCFD antenna handicapped (HOA) here.  Occasionally I hear the world working them on FT8, CW and ssb but I never hear the KH1 at all.  DXCC stands at 310/310.  The HR is tough to reach.  Hoping propagation picks up a bit to the east coast.
Good luck to all and 73,
Bob KW4CQ


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on June 29, 2018, 06:42:10 AM
Bagged them at 5:48am this morning on 40m phone. ATNO and very excited! ic7300, Half Square 60' up and sb200. They were very weak. 5 minutes later much stronger.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 29, 2018, 06:46:44 AM
http://kh7z.net/2018/06/29/june-29-1100z-update/ (http://kh7z.net/2018/06/29/june-29-1100z-update/)
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The bad news is our BGAN terminal system for log uploading refuses to link up with the bird. We have two BGAN terminals on island and neither are correctly connecting to the satalite. We will continue to work to sort this out, but right now we can’t upload logs.

I sense many dupes in the near future.

I still think it would be worthwhile for biggest DXpeditions to have as a backup to satphones, an HF datalink to a propagation-reliable pilot. e.g. for Baker Island it might be each night on 80M Winlink to a ham in Hawaii.

10,000Q's a day can be compressed to maybe 50kbytes which can be transferred in a hour of HF.

Admittedly Baker Island to KH6 is pretty slam-dunk compared to, say, Heard Island to ZS which might be tougher.

It is huge that KH1 had 10,000 Q's in the first full day. Just a rip-roaring success!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N6FE on June 29, 2018, 07:09:56 AM
Didn't get through until 2nd day on 14.023. These guys are incredible operators. Good luck to them.
Dave N6FE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on June 29, 2018, 08:31:49 AM
I just wish they'd upload their log to Clublog so I can see I'm in the log but I clearly heard my call.

Chris  NU1O


Um, how?  :-)
Have you looked at a google maps satellite view of that Island?
I can't see a building and tower for a cell phone provider, Internet ISP,
or even a Post Office shack.


Guess again !
Logs could easily be uploaded with a simple satellite telephone.

I am SURE they have at least ONE with them just in case
of an emergency.

Of course, the airtime cost is ridiculous !




Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 29, 2018, 08:37:24 AM
Lack of an online log certainly changes my overall strategy.

With an online log, I would have been happy with one per band and one per mode confirmed in the online log. For example 80M SSB, 40M CW, 30M Digital, for 6 DXCC counters (3 bands and 3 modes) with just 3 Q's.

If any one of them is with a pirate or for some reason doesn't match, then I lose two DXCC credits - a BAND and a MODE.

But without an online log, I will avoid band-mode dupes but will end up trying to get at least two per band and two per mode. For example 80M SSB and 80M Digital, 40M CW and 40M SSB, and 30M CW and 30M Digital. That way if any ONE of them was with a pirate, I don't lose anything.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 29, 2018, 09:18:42 AM
Yeah, that's my plan as well. I don't like duping, but for ultra-rares with no online log I'd rather be safe than sorry.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 29, 2018, 10:07:50 AM
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without an online log, I will avoid band-mode dupes but will end up trying to get at least two per band and two per mode.

How long will you guys give them to fix the log upload issue before you start making insurance Qs?

Asking for a friend.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KE4KY on June 29, 2018, 10:21:54 AM
Nonsense like that should not be advocated.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on June 29, 2018, 10:27:04 AM
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without an online log, I will avoid band-mode dupes but will end up trying to get at least two per band and two per mode.

How long will you guys give them to fix the log upload issue before you start making insurance Qs?
Too late...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: AE5X on June 29, 2018, 10:46:35 AM
Logs could easily be uploaded with a simple satellite telephone.

I am SURE they have at least ONE with them just in case
of an emergency.

I wonder how they're updating their website - it would seem that if they can do that, they should be able to upload their logs.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 29, 2018, 11:00:21 AM
Logs could easily be uploaded with a simple satellite telephone.

I am SURE they have at least ONE with them just in case
of an emergency.

I wonder how they're updating their website - it would seem that if they can do that, they should be able to upload their logs.

I think their social media guy is doing that for them.  He mentioned as much on "Ham Talk Live" yesterday.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD0PO on June 29, 2018, 12:04:44 PM
already seeing spots of "Pirate".

I only NEED one 160, 80 and 30 meter Q

I'ii wind up working just a CW 160 Q, try for a CW AND/OR SSB or FT8 80 Q and an FT8 or Rtty Q and CW on 30.

If that doesn't work out, I'll not feel bad. I'm in air conditioning with cold beer, room temperature bourbon and plenty of cigars.
They are hot getting eaten by bugs and probably frustrated as all hell that they can't upload the log.

I think I'm fine..

Ray


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N4OGW on June 29, 2018, 12:27:18 PM
Logs could easily be uploaded with a simple satellite telephone.

I am SURE they have at least ONE with them just in case
of an emergency.

I wonder how they're updating their website - it would seem that if they can do that, they should be able to upload their logs.


I think their social media guy is doing that for them.  He mentioned as much on "Ham Talk Live" yesterday.

They did manage to upload some photos from the first day. Maybe the boat has sat access?

Tor
N4OGW


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on June 29, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
I only NEED one 160, 80 and 30 meter Q

If that doesn't work out, I'll not feel bad. I'm in air conditioning with cold beer, room temperature bourbon and plenty of cigars.
I think I'm fine..
Exactly. Got my 30m, but still need 80 and 160 (and 12). Two humidors full of NA-015 cigars, the A/C cranked to  the "nuclear winter" setting, enough Scotch to fuel a lifetime bender and a handy beer fridge here as well. DX IS. But that said, I've still made a couple of insurance Qs (alternate bands/modes).


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: EI2GLB on June 29, 2018, 03:06:44 PM
If 2 units won't connect it's a good chance there is a config issue, it's not that there in the depths of the Antarctic they should have a good clear shot at the bird,

There is lots of people waiting on this log up load we don't have the luxury of being able to have multiple insurance QSO's on different bands there is only prop on 1 or 2 band here in NW EU,


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: LA7GIA on June 29, 2018, 03:21:57 PM
I think it is a very selfish thing to intentionally make a dupe so early in DXped just because there is no online log. If you copy your callsign, then there is no need to dupe and occupy the bandwith. Let other smaller pistols have a shot, after all this is just a hobby. Sooner or later the online log will appear


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: ZL1BBW on June 29, 2018, 03:55:50 PM
Well they loud hereon 80 last night and going for it, gave up after 30 mins, the remote SDR was just chocka block with signals, did manage to get them on 20CW for a ATNO so all happy with that, now am I in the log?

GL everyone   Gavin ZL1BBW


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 29, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
I've been really impressed with the FT8 DXpedition mode.  I was afraid people wouldn't RTFM (since it is a bit different from regular FT8) but for the most part it's gone pretty smoothly.  I've worked them on FT8 on 3 bands and each time, I've been in and out in under five minutes.  Send my call once or twice, get a response, send my report, get the RR73 on the next over, just like clockwork, and done.  So long as I didn't work a slim, I'm sure I'm in the log since I got my RR73.

My CW and SSB QSOs, on the other hand... oy.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2LO on June 29, 2018, 04:42:05 PM
 The logs are up!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 29, 2018, 04:46:43 PM
The logs are up!

Sweetness!  No dupes required   ;D

Note that the log ends yesterday evening apparently.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on June 29, 2018, 04:47:34 PM
The logs are up!
My FT8 QSO is not in the log... anyone else's FT8 QSOs not showing up?

EDIT: Never-mind, just saw KJ4Z's post


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5PG on June 29, 2018, 05:08:46 PM
The logs are up!

Sweetness!  No dupes required   ;D

Note that the log ends yesterday evening apparently.

Last QSO in database: 2018-06-29 02:35:39


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 29, 2018, 05:10:20 PM
The logs are up!
My FT8 QSO is not in the log... anyone else's FT8 QSOs not showing up?

EDIT: Never-mind, just saw KJ4Z's post

Mason,

There was a post that not all FT8 QSOs would be in the log so don't let this drive you crazy.  I saw your post and the print was clearly a QSO.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: ZL1BBW on June 29, 2018, 05:31:48 PM
The logs are up!
Sweet, I appear in there for 20CW.  Saves a lot of double effort.  G


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on June 29, 2018, 05:38:05 PM
Not a peep in Western Pennsylvania on any BAND or MODE.
I cannot afford to miss this one.
By the time someone goes back in the future,
I'll be WORM feed.

I have the new version of WSJT-X, nothing there either.

It becomes a bit frustrating, but that is the nature of the beast !!!!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 29, 2018, 05:48:52 PM
Not a peep in Western Pennsylvania on any BAND or MODE.
I cannot afford to miss this one.
By the time someone goes back in the future,
I'll be WORM feed.

I have the new version of WSJT-X, nothing there either.

It becomes a bit frustrating, but that is the nature of the beast !!!!

Ok there's two of us that hasn't worked them yet. I've heard them 0930z here... pretty much the only time at all I can hear them for me. Man everyone around is working them left and right... it's gonna be our turn soon.. it has to be.  8)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on June 29, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
Last QSO in database: 2018-06-29 02:35:39
Missed that... my QSO was at 02:54  :D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 29, 2018, 05:51:38 PM
Not a peep in Western Pennsylvania on any BAND or MODE.

...
It becomes a bit frustrating, but that is the nature of the beast !!!!

I have only heard them on 14.023 CW in TX. I have worked JT65, JT9, and FT8 for years and got lots of DX but nary a peep of the DX on FT8 any band. I'm a little surprised at the moment but will keep trying of course. Hopefully the stations that are not running F&H mode will start to stay out of the Fox area when calling, but I hold little hope that this will clear up before the end of the party.  >:(


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on June 29, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
The logs are up!
My FT8 QSO is not in the log... anyone else's FT8 QSOs not showing up?

EDIT: Never-mind, just saw KJ4Z's post

Mason,

There was a post that not all FT8 QSOs would be in the log so don't let this drive you crazy.  I saw your post and the print was clearly a QSO.

73,

Chris  NU1O

I have 2 FT8 qsos missing. I also have the "RR73",  they will show up sooner or later.

The op added the "/m" to my 20m ssb mobile qso last night, always a plus. Some dxpeds are hit or miss on that.

Good luck to those still chasing a qso.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N6YFM on June 29, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
WHAT TIME / WHERE is the FT8 ACTIVITY?

For 2 days I am hunting around 40, 30, 20, 17  after work in California,
roughly 00:00Z to 03:00Z, looking for FT8 activity on their published baker2018.net plan
page.  I can't find any hint of a signal on their frequencies, but on the normal FT8 bands
I see lots of signals.

QUESTION:   Does anyone know if the Baker team is only doing FT8 at specific times of day?
[Since I live on a small city lot with modest antenna's and plenty of noise, I don't stand a chance
at SSB from here.  But on FT8 and JT-65 I have hit 92 countries in the last two years.]


The baker web pages, including the updates blog, make no mention of FT8 frequency changes
or times of day for different modes.

Does anyone know when and where to expect activity?

Cheers,

Neal


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5PG on June 29, 2018, 06:22:48 PM
Not a peep in Western Pennsylvania on any BAND or MODE.

...
It becomes a bit frustrating, but that is the nature of the beast !!!!

I have only heard them on 14.023 CW in TX. I have worked JT65, JT9, and FT8 for years and got lots of DX but nary a peep of the DX on FT8 any band. I'm a little surprised at the moment but will keep trying of course. Hopefully the stations that are not running F&H mode will start to stay out of the Fox area when calling, but I hold little hope that this will clear up before the end of the party.  >:(

Dallas area locals have got 'em on FT8 on more than one band but they all have tall towers and big beams.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WA4BCS on June 29, 2018, 06:27:16 PM
Neal, watch the clusters. WWW.sk6aw.net is a good one.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1BR on June 29, 2018, 06:28:22 PM
Workable in 1 land this evening....   took several calls but they are in log 20 CW contact


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on June 29, 2018, 07:11:44 PM
Workable in 1 land this evening....   took several calls but they are in log 20 CW contact
Certainly readable in NC right now on 20m, but too weak to jump into the fray at the moment.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on June 29, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
Not a peep in Western Pennsylvania on any BAND or MODE.

...
It becomes a bit frustrating, but that is the nature of the beast !!!!

I have only heard them on 14.023 CW in TX. I have worked JT65, JT9, and FT8 for years and got lots of DX but nary a peep of the DX on FT8 any band. I'm a little surprised at the moment but will keep trying of course. Hopefully the stations that are not running F&H mode will start to stay out of the Fox area when calling, but I hold little hope that this will clear up before the end of the party.  >:(

Dallas area locals have got 'em on FT8 on more than one band but they all have tall towers and big beams.


That is the short-fall.
A vertical and a wire doublet here.
Nothing fancy.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 29, 2018, 07:23:36 PM

Dallas area locals have got 'em on FT8 on more than one band but they all have tall towers and big beams.


Roger ... well I have resonant dipoles over my house on all HF bands, but if they don't get the job done this time so be it. I'll move on to the next one and I wish all hams here the best of luck and congrats on all who have and will work them!  :D

But hey they have a long way to go so I will monitor and hope that the propagation will open a window for me.


And I thought I heard somewhere that FT8 was an automatic computer mode. No, this is also REAL RADIO!.  :o


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 29, 2018, 08:17:17 PM
My FT8 QSO is not in the log... anyone else's FT8 QSOs not showing up?

Mine is also missing. Good thing I make a screen cap.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1NK on June 29, 2018, 08:21:16 PM
Cue the ATNO dancing zebra!

(http://i.imgur.com/fzwBb.gif)

#330! 

Surprised that I got them on 20 phone, but what the heck, a new one is a new one!

Frank, W1NK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K5GS on June 29, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
WHAT TIME / WHERE is the FT8 ACTIVITY?

For 2 days I am hunting around 40, 30, 20, 17  after work in California,
roughly 00:00Z to 03:00Z, looking for FT8 activity on their published baker2018.net plan
page.  I can't find any hint of a signal on their frequencies, but on the normal FT8 bands
I see lots of signals.

QUESTION:   Does anyone know if the Baker team is only doing FT8 at specific times of day?
[Since I live on a small city lot with modest antenna's and plenty of noise, I don't stand a chance
at SSB from here.  But on FT8 and JT-65 I have hit 92 countries in the last two years.]


The baker web pages, including the updates blog, make no mention of FT8 frequency changes
or times of day for different modes.

Does anyone know when and where to expect activity?

Cheers,

Neal

He's on 18.095  FT8  0344z   booming signals into Tucson and also into Denver..

No reason why you shouldn't copy him, even with a modest antenna.

Good Luck,


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: EI2GLB on June 29, 2018, 08:54:21 PM
Anyone else missing there 17m FT8 QSO??


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1BR on June 29, 2018, 09:35:11 PM
Booming signal on 17 meter SSB as well.  Three band modes so far in one evening.  Amazed to hear signals after midnight.

Pete


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on June 30, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
Put up a high dipole on 40m oriented in that direction. Sit down at 3am our time and stay until after sunrise. You will work them. I did from here with a half square, ic7300 and a half square at 60'. If I did it anyone can with wires.

If you can't make 40m then park on 20cw at 4pm til 10pm our time and start watching where they are listening/who they are working. They have a weak signal but have sat here and listened for hours at a time to them working the pileup.  Definitely workable.


Not a peep in Western Pennsylvania on any BAND or MODE.
I cannot afford to miss this one.
By the time someone goes back in the future,
I'll be WORM feed.

I have the new version of WSJT-X, nothing there either.

It becomes a bit frustrating, but that is the nature of the beast !!!!

Ok there's two of us that hasn't worked them yet. I've heard them 0930z here... pretty much the only time at all I can hear them for me. Man everyone around is working them left and right... it's gonna be our turn soon.. it has to be.  8)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on June 30, 2018, 02:46:23 AM
I heard that contact! Congrats!

Cue the ATNO dancing zebra!

(http://i.imgur.com/fzwBb.gif)

#330! 

Surprised that I got them on 20 phone, but what the heck, a new one is a new one!

Frank, W1NK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 30, 2018, 03:08:46 AM
Put up a high dipole on 40m oriented in that direction. Sit down at 3am our time and stay until after sunrise. You will work them. I did from here with a half square, ic7300 and a half square at 60'. If I did it anyone can with wires.

If you can't make 40m then park on 20cw at 4pm til 10pm our time and start watching where they are listening/who they are working. They have a weak signal but have sat here and listened for hours at a time to them working the pileup.  Definitely workable.

Yup, that is what defintely will work. My dipole is up 50-60 feet oriented in their direction. I have been getting up every morning starting at 3am.. but they have only been on a mode the first morning during our greyline I could take advantage and try. Still hoping for more 30/40m cw or ft8 at our greyline. Unfortunately I have a hill behind me that seems to be blocking out 20 altogether (yet I do work plenty in that direction on 20 both closer and further away.. must be takeoff angles blocked to that part of the world I guess?)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 03:16:48 AM
Put up a high dipole on 40m oriented in that direction. Sit down at 3am our time and stay until after sunrise. You will work them. I did from here with a half square, ic7300 and a half square at 60'. If I did it anyone can with wires.

If you can't make 40m then park on 20cw at 4pm til 10pm our time and start watching where they are listening/who they are working. They have a weak signal but have sat here and listened for hours at a time to them working the pileup.  Definitely workable.

Yup, that is what defintely will work. My dipole is up 50-60 feet oriented in their direction. I have been getting up every morning starting at 3am.. but they have only been on a mode the first morning during our greyline I could take advantage and try. Still hoping for more 30/40m cw or ft8 at our greyline. Unfortunately I have a hill behind me that seems to be blocking out 20 altogether (yet I do work plenty in that direction on 20 both closer and further away.. must be takeoff angles blocked to that part of the world I guess?)

Are they sleeping on the boat?  It's 6 AM local time and I was going to try for a 40m QSO but there's no activity at all being reported.  They'd be workable because I just worked ZM50LA with a nice 579 signal.  No morning gray line, if that's truly the case, is a big loss.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 03:31:00 AM
Put up a high dipole on 40m oriented in that direction. Sit down at 3am our time and stay until after sunrise. You will work them. I did from here with a half square, ic7300 and a half square at 60'. If I did it anyone can with wires.

If you can't make 40m then park on 20cw at 4pm til 10pm our time and start watching where they are listening/who they are working. They have a weak signal but have sat here and listened for hours at a time to them working the pileup.  Definitely workable.

Yup, that is what defintely will work. My dipole is up 50-60 feet oriented in their direction. I have been getting up every morning starting at 3am.. but they have only been on a mode the first morning during our greyline I could take advantage and try. Still hoping for more 30/40m cw or ft8 at our greyline. Unfortunately I have a hill behind me that seems to be blocking out 20 altogether (yet I do work plenty in that direction on 20 both closer and further away.. must be takeoff angles blocked to that part of the world I guess?)

Are they sleeping on the boat?  It's 6 AM local time and I was going to try for a 40m QSO but there's no activity at all being reported.  They'd be workable because I just worked ZM50LA with a nice 579 signal.  No morning gray line, if that's truly the case, is a big loss.

73,

Chris  NU1O

I had spots shutoff for 160 and 80 since there's no antenna for those bands.  I see they're on those bands.  I have a very weak copy on 20 CW but they aren't really strong enough to try and I might have a 15m CW QSO so I don't want to risk a dupe.  Will have to wait for the log to be updates to see about 15 meters.
I have my ATNO from a 20 SSB QSO and there's still a lot of time for other bands and modes.

The boys in Europe must be getting antsy with only about 9% of all QSOs.

NU1O

NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 30, 2018, 03:32:30 AM
Are they sleeping on the boat?  It's 6 AM local time and I was going to try for a 40m QSO but there's no activity at all being reported.  They'd be workable because I just worked ZM50LA with a nice 579 signal.  No morning gray line, if that's truly the case, is a big loss.

They have a great signal this AM both 40M and 30M.

This morning 40M RTTY, seeing them work BY, JA, RA0, etc. Lotsa famous Asian RTTY calls.

This may have been the magic morning for 160M. I can't hear the DX myself but listening to the pileup, I have heard many US stations work them.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N8EHW on June 30, 2018, 03:50:27 AM
The log upload yesterday verified my 20M phone and cw contacts, and puts me at 331 mixed for HR. A long and entertaining trip with a modest station. Good luck to everyone.

Tom - N8EHW


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1NK on June 30, 2018, 04:04:05 AM
The log upload yesterday verified my 20M phone and cw contacts, and puts me at 331 mixed for HR. A long and entertaining trip with a modest station. Good luck to everyone.

Tom - N8EHW

Congrats Tom! (Now onto #1 Honor Roll!   ;) )


Frank, W1NK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 04:27:05 AM
The log upload yesterday verified my 20M phone and cw contacts, and puts me at 331 mixed for HR. A long and entertaining trip with a modest station. Good luck to everyone.

Tom - N8EHW

Congrats to you.  It's not an easy accomplishment with a modest station.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 30, 2018, 04:44:44 AM
Finally some band conditions I can work with, they had a nice sig on 30cw. Didn't break the pileup but at least had a chance at it... starting to fade now... definitely will be watching the radio today.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on June 30, 2018, 04:59:05 AM
I have a very weak copy on 20 CW but they aren't really strong enough to try and I might have a 15m CW QSO so I don't want to risk a dupe.

IMHO: Working them both 15CW and 20CW is not duping them. It may not be a perfect optimization, but it's not duping them.

For a lot of us "phone is hard" (say it like the Barbie doll said "math is hard") so we are likely to get several CW QSO's and no phone.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 05:34:58 AM
I have a very weak copy on 20 CW but they aren't really strong enough to try and I might have a 15m CW QSO so I don't want to risk a dupe.

IMHO: Working them both 15CW and 20CW is not duping them. It may not be a perfect optimization, but it's not duping them.

For a lot of us "phone is hard" (say it like the Barbie doll said "math is hard") so we are likely to get several CW QSO's and no phone.

My only good QSO to date is 20m SSB otherwise I wouldn't be so reticent to join the pileup!  :)

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on June 30, 2018, 05:58:01 AM
Coming through loud and clear now on 14.090 ... but stations are responding to him directly (not F&H) sometimes and sqashing him. Maybe I'll get through.  :'(


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 06:00:23 AM
What's with those continuous CQs every 30 seconds for minutes at a time with no replies.  Is that normal?

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 30, 2018, 06:06:20 AM
Coming through loud and clear now on 14.090 ... but stations are responding to him directly (not F&H) sometimes and sqashing him. Maybe I'll get through.  :'(

While I don't see him I am watching the pile and I see a ton on people below 1000 just calling and calling.  ::)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 30, 2018, 06:10:35 AM
Coming through loud and clear now on 14.090 ... but stations are responding to him directly (not F&H) sometimes and sqashing him. Maybe I'll get through.  :'(

While I don't see him I am watching the pile and I see a ton on people below 1000 just calling and calling.  ::)

Same here. Not a peep (or trace) of them on 20m FT8.

This one has been very frustrating. The only bands I've heard them on are 30m (FT8) and 40m (SSB). Two attempts to get them using a KW and the 80m doublet on 40m SSB have failed. I'm beginning to wonder if the pileup is really that thick, or are they just not hearing the East Coast very well.

Oh, well, I'll keep at it....


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 06:26:17 AM
Coming through loud and clear now on 14.090 ... but stations are responding to him directly (not F&H) sometimes and sqashing him. Maybe I'll get through.  :'(

While I don't see him I am watching the pile and I see a ton on people below 1000 just calling and calling.  ::)

Same here. Not a peep (or trace) of them on 20m FT8.

This one has been very frustrating. The only bands I've heard them on are 30m (FT8) and 40m (SSB). Two attempts to get them using a KW and the 80m doublet on 40m SSB have failed. I'm beginning to wonder if the pileup is really that thick, or are they just not hearing the East Coast very well.

Oh, well, I'll keep at it....

They were as strong as a +08 on 20m FT8 here in MA but I'm using a tribander.  I don't know how all those Europeans got though but I failed when I have a 4,000 mile advantage on them, and I wasn't running an amp. so I didn't overload some self imposed signal threshold if they're using that.  I tried that "trick" in the user's manual but transmitting above 3,000 Hz didn't produce a QSO, either.  Still early, so we'll just keep plugging away.

73,

Chris  NU1O





Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ3N on June 30, 2018, 08:16:49 AM
I tried that "trick" in the user's manual but transmitting above 3,000 Hz didn't produce a QSO, either.  Still early, so we'll just keep plugging away.

Unfortunately, if I don't get a 40m SSB contact by tomorrow morning, I don't think I'll be getting them on any band for SSB. 13 Colonies starts at 13:00z Sunday and I'm a K2E op. I'm going to find it difficult to do both at the same time, if not impossible.

I do have a 30m FT8 contact (see earlier posting on page 6 of this very thread), but according to Club Log, I'm not there. I find that hard to fathom, since my screen shot clearly shows I got the proper exchange. So far, it's the only contact I have. None of the other bands (with the exceptions of 40 and 30) have produce a signal I can hear.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on June 30, 2018, 08:22:54 AM
Hi Everyone,

I just want to drop in to say ‘hi’ and ‘congrats’ to those who worked them.  Usually in the summer I’m riding my bike and staying off the radio.  For this dxpedition I had to check the station and make sure it still works  ;D

Out here in CO we have it much easier than you guys but I can confirm the real West Coast guys are having an absolute feast.  I see a lot of comments like ‘Rise and Shine, one call and in the log’  :D  For the life of me I couldn’t break the 80m CW pileups.  So I plan to rise early everyday until I get them on 80m.  160m is already in the log.

The next ATNO for me will be Ducie.  See ya’ll in the pileups in the fall.  GL to those still chasing KH1.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0IZ on June 30, 2018, 09:07:01 AM
Jonathan, my station is in Westcliffe (CO).  Trying to work them 20M SSB.  Last night finally heard, starting about 0300 and getting somewhat stronger up till about 0345.  Then they called for Europe only and by time back to US, signal dropped down to almost nothing.  HamCap and other prop programs show CO as being best on 20 from 0400 to 0500, with strong signals, but that's not what I am experiencing.   Have you been doing well on 20?  John.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5PG on June 30, 2018, 09:11:20 AM
I have a very weak copy on 20 CW but they aren't really strong enough to try and I might have a 15m CW QSO so I don't want to risk a dupe.

IMHO: Working them both 15CW and 20CW is not duping them. It may not be a perfect optimization, but it's not duping them.

For a lot of us "phone is hard" (say it like the Barbie doll said "math is hard") so we are likely to get several CW QSO's and no phone.

My only good QSO to date is 20m SSB otherwise I wouldn't be so reticent to join the pileup!  :)

73,

Chris  NU1O

I heard them work you on 20cw 0350Z, 6/29 :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on June 30, 2018, 09:35:21 AM
Jonathan, my station is in Westcliffe (CO).  Trying to work them 20M SSB.  Last night finally heard, starting about 0300 and getting somewhat stronger up till about 0345.  Then they called for Europe only and by time back to US, signal dropped down to almost nothing.  HamCap and other prop programs show CO as being best on 20 from 0400 to 0500, with strong signals, but that's not what I am experiencing.   Have you been doing well on 20?  John.

Hi John,

Yes I remember you and your remote CO station in the forest.  And I know you only have a 20m antenna.  20m is by far the best band, the next being 30m and then 40m.  Last night I sat in my chair and listened to them on 14.210 working EU efficiently.  They were not booming but armchair Q5 copy.  I have two elements on 20m at 75' high.  I didn't stay on long enough to hear them get back to the U.S.  They have been workable on 20m very early here, and for reference my 20m SSB contact was on 6/27 at 2300.  So the 20m opening to my QTH is very long.  I don't know what time would be the peak prop. but it's prudent for you to monitor the band much earlier than 0300.  Personally I don't use the propagation tools but I've heard people gripe about the predictions being totally wrong.

The other issue might be your obstructed terrain to the west.  I also have a mountain immediately to the west but perhaps my handicap isn't as severe as yours.  In any case you've got to make it work with the card you've been dealt.

If I hear them loud on 20m SSB I will send you a private email.  GL on your chase.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on June 30, 2018, 11:25:27 AM
I have a very weak copy on 20 CW but they aren't really strong enough to try and I might have a 15m CW QSO so I don't want to risk a dupe.

IMHO: Working them both 15CW and 20CW is not duping them. It may not be a perfect optimization, but it's not duping them.

For a lot of us "phone is hard" (say it like the Barbie doll said "math is hard") so we are likely to get several CW QSO's and no phone.

My only good QSO to date is 20m SSB otherwise I wouldn't be so reticent to join the pileup!  :)

73,

Chris  NU1O

I heard them work you on 20cw 0350Z, 6/29 :)

Thanks a million for the report!  That's in my logbook but I'm waiting for their log to be updated before I count it.  During that one I dealt with lots of QRM and QRN so I wasn't 100% with that one as I was with my SSB QSO.  I've a tentative Q on 15 CW but they were extremely weak so waiting for the update on that as well.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB8GAE on June 30, 2018, 12:12:17 PM
The following is from the source forge mailing list.

"For the record, here's the "Most important advice for Hounds" that I
posted to wsjtgroup yesterday:

1. Read the FT8 DXpedition Mode User Guide.  Read it all!

http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf

2. You must select Hound mode.

3. The *Tx even/1st* box (grayed out) must NOT be checked.  (It's
supposed to be impossible for this to happen, but several have claimed
that it can.  If you find the box is checked: exit Hound mode, clear the
box, then re-enter Hound mode.) [Also see below.]

4. Enter the full call, KH1/KH7Z, in the *DX Call* box.  Although it's
not necessary, you may also enter "AJ10" in the *DX Grid* box.  [Then
you'll see the short-path azimuth and know where to point your beam.]

5. Do not call the Fox if you are not copying him.  However, it is NOT
necessary to wait until you copy his CQ.  They are not calling CQ very
often.  [Also see below.]

6. Pick a clear Tx frequency above 1000 Hz, and go ahead and call.

Good luck to all for working KH1/KH7Z on as many bands as possible!

Notes added today:

1. Several of us have recognized that "Tx even/1st" can become checked
in Hound mode if you double-click on a decode in the odd/2nd sequence.
Of course, there's no good reason for a Hound to do this; but we all
make mistakes.  The program should not permit this to happen, and we'll
fix this defect.  Meanwhile, don't do it!

2. There are VERY GOOD reasons why you should not call the Fox "blind".
If you are not copying Fox's transmissions, DO NOT call him.  Doing so
only creates QRM.

However...

3. If you are copying Fox's transmissions, there is NO good reason to
refrain from calling until you copy his CQ.  Fox expects Hounds to be
calling all the time, on open propagation paths.  Most QSOs are made
this way.

And fiinally...

4. If you copy Fox's CQ but copy few if any other transmissions from
Fox, your chances of a QSO are probably not very good.  CQs from Fox are
generally sent in single-slot mode, so they are 6 to 14 dB stronger than
most of his other transmissions.

   -- 73, Joe, K1JT"


Rich KB8GAE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: AE5X on June 30, 2018, 12:18:28 PM
FT8 DX mode question:

If they (KH1) call CQ, will they be received with a higher signal strength than their individual transmissions on multiple freqs since (during CQ) their power is confined to only one frequency?

Question answered from the source himself:

"CQs from Fox are generally sent in single-slot mode, so they are 6 to 14 dB stronger than
most of his other transmissions." de Joe Taylor


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on June 30, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
The following is from the source forge mailing list.

"For the record, here's the "Most important advice for Hounds" that I
posted to wsjtgroup yesterday:.....




Rich KB8GAE


I saw this on their site:

We are not promoting band/slot bingo on this DXpedition. Our intent is to work as many stations as possible and we will use several bands to reach our audience. Please consider working us on other modes on a band where you have not worked us on FT8. We will certainly work all callers, but hopefully you will share in our quest to reach as many stations as possible.

I'm not sure anyone read this.. it sounds like they are trying to keep FT8 open to folks looking for ATNO's.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on June 30, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
We are not promoting band/slot bingo on this DXpedition. Our intent is to work as many stations as possible and we will use several bands to reach our audience. Please consider working us on other modes on a band where you have not worked us on FT8. We will certainly work all callers, but hopefully you will share in our quest to reach as many stations as possible.

I'm not sure anyone read this.. it sounds like they are trying to keep FT8 open to folks looking for ATNO's.

Somewhat ambiguously worded, but I read that as "please don't work us on another mode on the same band if you've already worked us on FT8," not "please work us on FT8 on one band only."


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K5PS on June 30, 2018, 08:13:12 PM
Question answered from the source himself:

"CQs from Fox are generally sent in single-slot mode, so they are 6 to 14 dB stronger than
most of his other transmissions." de Joe Taylor

Interesting. I was wondering why I could only copy their CQ on 17m FT8 but never anything else.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K3STX on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
Success!!  About 20 minutes ago on 20 CW with a dipole/400 watts. Was building up much better than an hour earlier. Maybe an insurance QSO on 40 and I am done. #327 (I think), woo hoo.

Paul


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1UK on July 01, 2018, 02:14:37 AM
Good luck with 40m...they are down in the noise for me with a 40m 4 square.


73 Mark N1UK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 01, 2018, 02:52:13 AM
Do people in the east NA find them easier to work on 20 or 40? I'm thinking since my rotor is broken I could put up a temporary dipole on 20 or 40.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1UK on July 01, 2018, 03:14:31 AM
Let me eat my words...I just got them on 40 cw around my local sunrise.


Marvin..I think the strongest signals have been on 30m so far.


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 01, 2018, 03:52:13 AM
Well, I finally think I'm in!! So I was chasing him on 40cw this morning with little luck.. he wasn't too strong and I'm sure I was probably getting pounced on. Well, he went qrx for a few. I tuned the vfo a little and heard a station calling on 7022.. sure enough it was him. I quickly listened to the pileup.. or lack thereof.. they hadn't caught on! I dropped my TX frequency down a little to 024 or 025... dropped a few calls and sure enough he came back to my call perfectly. He worked someone else after me and then he was spotted on 7022.. and the chaos was back on. Bam! Now to just wait for the log update!

Not gonna queue up the zebra til I see it in the log...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1UK on July 01, 2018, 04:22:47 AM
Congratulations...I think I even scored 80m cw this morning



Mark N1UK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB8GAE on July 01, 2018, 04:30:35 AM

Marvin..I think the strongest signals have been on 30m so far.

Mark N1UK

+1

I worked them on 30 cw yesterday morning and 30 has been my best band so far.

I have also heard them S2 or better on my dipole on 20 and 40 and at my noise level on 17.

Good luck Marvin.

73's Rich KB8GAE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on July 01, 2018, 04:54:44 AM
My extremely weak 15m CW QSO was good.  So, two bands and two modes are in their log.  Just worked them on FT8 on 20 meters.  It didn't take more than 15 minutes.  I've got my 3 modes so anything else is gravy.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1UK on July 01, 2018, 05:30:02 AM
I have a 3 ele beam at 87 feet and 17m has been a no show so far. I decoded the odd 17m FT8 transmission every 5 minutes or so. 

I worked them on 20m ssb but they were esp. I rode a peak of QSB and I heard them say that I was in the log.


I missed 30m yesterday as I wanted to get some outside work done before it got too hot and I was burnt out after several hours of calling on 160m cw.  I hope they show on 30m again and call for NA.   This morning was the best day so far with 40m and 80 cw hopefully in the log.  40m ssb has been difficult. Their 40m cw signal was much stronger and easier to copy that their basey 40m ssb signal.

Mark N1UK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2LO on July 01, 2018, 06:25:38 AM
 They were sporadically on 20m RTTY late yesterday for short periods here and there. However, what this meant was that the KH1 had three stations (cw, ssb and rtty) simultaneously on 20m. This made me somewhat suspicious but my RTTY Q showed up in the log today.

 The pileup on 80cw this morning was thin and he was hearing well although he wasn't terribly strong.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on July 01, 2018, 06:36:27 AM
EGGSELLENT!

Well, I finally think I'm in!! So I was chasing him on 40cw this morning with little luck.. he wasn't too strong and I'm sure I was probably getting pounced on. Well, he went qrx for a few. I tuned the vfo a little and heard a station calling on 7022.. sure enough it was him. I quickly listened to the pileup.. or lack thereof.. they hadn't caught on! I dropped my TX frequency down a little to 024 or 025... dropped a few calls and sure enough he came back to my call perfectly. He worked someone else after me and then he was spotted on 7022.. and the chaos was back on. Bam! Now to just wait for the log update!

Not gonna queue up the zebra til I see it in the log...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3MEG on July 01, 2018, 06:41:19 AM
3 qso's in the log for me  20 and 15m ssb and 15 cw.
i hear them on 40m but not hope in cw my antenna isn't great going to put up a dipole for 40m in the next few days.keep an ear on 15m its a surprising band even a few vk's worked them on 10m and i hear some w's on 10m today in ft8.
as for ft8 i tried for a while cbf heard them in rtty but pile up was too strong.the  100w makes it very tough in these tough conditions.
But im on the path to upgrading my license i passed my US Tech and General on saturday, extra, next month that will give me a full vk license yay which means 400w and the warc bands
cheers


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 01, 2018, 07:05:46 AM
Finally in the log on 17M  FT8.  Contrary to popular opinion it was not easy for low power and a rotary dipole at 40 foot.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 01, 2018, 08:27:26 AM
EGGSELLENT!

Well, I finally think I'm in!! 

Thanks! Today's ATNO is brought to you by a little bit of dumb luck just tuning around while they qrx and quick reflexes  ;D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 01, 2018, 08:44:31 AM
Yay... My QSO showed up in the latest log update!  :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KF7CSO on July 01, 2018, 09:06:17 AM
Well, I've been away from the hobby for about a year and a half. KH1/KH7Z is the first needed DX I've chased in a while. I forgot how much fun I used to have making contacts and watching the online logs come up empty.  ;)

I had a SOLID and I mean SOLID contact on 2018-07-01 01:29:00 17CW that is not in the new update. Anybody else missing anything?

Anyway, back to the chase and the highs and lows of DXing.  ;D

Eric


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE8EV on July 01, 2018, 09:21:19 AM
Hi Everyone,

I just want to drop in to say ‘hi’ and ‘congrats’ to those who worked them.  Usually in the summer I’m riding my bike and staying off the radio.  For this dxpedition I had to check the station and make sure it still works  ;D

Out here in CO we have it much easier than you guys but I can confirm the real West Coast guys are having an absolute feast.  I see a lot of comments like ‘Rise and Shine, one call and in the log’  :D  For the life of me I couldn’t break the 80m CW pileups.  So I plan to rise early everyday until I get them on 80m.  160m is already in the log.

The next ATNO for me will be Ducie.  See ya’ll in the pileups in the fall.  GL to those still chasing KH1.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Congrats on the ATNO, Jonathan.  I know what you mean about staying off the radio in the summer.  I looked back in ClubLog and I can count on one hand the number of new ones I've ever worked in the month of June (KH1/KH7Z was #319 and 5A1AL a few hours later was #320).  Looking for one more Q on 80m tonight and then I can get back to boating and fishing.  80m will tough from here, the sunset isn't for another few weeks...

73 es GL to all
John VE8EV


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE8EV on July 01, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
I had my own "RTFM moment" with FT8 the other day.  I called KH1/KH7Z on 17m and they came right back with a +04 report.  There was long, deep QSB and I missed the expected RR73.  As per the instructions, I just kept calling with R-17.  And they (or the software at that end) totally ignored me.  Eventually after 10 minutes or so (again as per the instructions) I gave up and moved above 1000Hz to start over.  And again got no reply.  It seemed there were others in the same boat as well although at the same time they were working and completing with some new stations.

After re-reading all the fox-hound mode info, I deduced that the first time they send RR73 you're in the log.  If you miss that first transmission (and send your report again) they will send RR73 again.  And even a third time.  But if you miss all three RR73's you're stuck in limbo.  If you keep sending your report you'll be ignored.  If you give up and start over you'll be ignored because you're already in the log and now a dupe.

Not really sure how to resolve that other than watch if the QSO shows up in the online log then go through your ALL.TXT file to find the likely time and log it.

John VE8EV

 


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on July 01, 2018, 12:07:00 PM
Still don't have 'em. It seems I can copy everyone but the DX on 20 m FT8. I've only copied them several times since they started for only a few cycles. I did discover a problem with my main antenna which covers 40-15-17-12-10, I had water in a piece of coax and when I eliminated it the signals on 17 went way up. I hope I can now work him on 17 now. I have a week left to do it.

Some people are making these types of comments on the cluster -

"ft8 bad idea dxped sucks"


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 01, 2018, 12:25:23 PM

Some people are making these types of comments on the cluster -

"ft8 bad idea dxped sucks"


Hmm, they would prefer a nice human-to-human conversation with the DXpedition team.  ;D

I don't care if its a "59 73" or "5nn tu" or "RR73". But I think it's going to be none of the above because of my broken rotor.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE8EV on July 01, 2018, 12:48:56 PM

Some people are making these types of comments on the cluster -

"ft8 bad idea dxped sucks"


Hmm, they would prefer a nice human-to-human conversation with the DXpedition team.  ;D

I don't care if its a "59 73" or "5nn tu" or "RR73". But I think it's going to be none of the above because of my broken rotor.

Marvin VE3VEE

Once I had a broken rotor that would only go one way and was turned all the way in that direction.  I waited for a windy day and held the brake released for a while and it eventually swung back 180 degrees.  Don't give up!

73
John VE8EV


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K8LE on July 01, 2018, 01:29:14 PM
FT8 DXpedition mode for KH1/KH7Z says to double click on callsign when they call cq.  They haven't called cq on ft8 for some time but many are contacting them.  How are they doing this?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 01, 2018, 01:37:12 PM
- John, I'm hoping for a very strong wind  ;D

- Andy, you don't have to wait for a CQ. Instead, enter their call sign into your WSJT-X software yourself manually by typing KH1/KH7Z into the call sign field under the "DX Call", then click the "Generate Std Msgs". Then you can start calling by clicking the "Enable Tx" button.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE8EV on July 01, 2018, 01:54:21 PM
Quote
FT8 DX mode question:

If they (KH1) call CQ, will they be received with a higher signal strength than their individual transmissions on multiple freqs since (during CQ) their power is confined to only one frequency?

Unlikely.  To get the multiple streams going, FT8's high duty cycle requires that the actual input power of the rig or rig/amp be reduced and fairly substantially at that.

They could boost the power for the CQ messages, but that is a lot of fiddling.

It is also poor pileup management.  No point in enticing marginal stations to join the fray if they can only decode that extra strong CQ message once in a while.

Remember, too, that the signal report is not an absolute.  It is a complex beast that I read up on once and forgot, but the report essentially encompasses all that is happening in the receiver's window.  In Fox and Hound mode, that should be only the DX, but if there are stray tuners and jammers, not necessarily so.

Watching them on FT8 in marginal signal conditions (such as we're likely to experience for the next few years), it would be prudent in subsequent WSJT-X releases to automate the power level.  They will often completely disappear when they're sending four or more streams.  Best to set the absolute maximum power based on the maximum number of streams and then have it automatically reduce for each stream less than the max so they will always have the same output level per stream.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on July 01, 2018, 03:18:30 PM
KE1B reports that they have got the BGANs working now, and there will be more frequent log uploads in the future.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6OU on July 01, 2018, 03:20:37 PM
KH1/KH7Z has a good signal on 6M FT8 right now.  S/N = +5 dB.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: XW0LP on July 01, 2018, 06:09:06 PM
I'm hearing them with strong FT8 signals every day on 14090. Could easily make a QSO.

But my ham licence restricts me to 15,12 and 10......   >:(

So far, no signals heard on 15 metres - I'll keep listening!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 01, 2018, 06:55:56 PM
EGGSELLENT!

Well, I finally think I'm in!! 

Thanks! Today's ATNO is brought to you by a little bit of dumb luck just tuning around while they qrx and quick reflexes  ;D

Congrats James.  I'm very happy for your ATNO.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 01, 2018, 06:57:58 PM
Well, I've been away from the hobby for about a year and a half. KH1/KH7Z is the first needed DX I've chased in a while. I forgot how much fun I used to have making contacts and watching the online logs come up empty.  ;)

I had a SOLID and I mean SOLID contact on 2018-07-01 01:29:00 17CW that is not in the new update. Anybody else missing anything?

Anyway, back to the chase and the highs and lows of DXing.  ;D

Eric


GL Eric.  I've had missing Qs from prior dxpeditions.  Those missing Qs showed up AFTER the team had returned home.  And these were top-10 most-wanted activations  ;D  But pretend you don't have the Q and try to work them again.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 01, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
Congrats on the ATNO, Jonathan.  I know what you mean about staying off the radio in the summer.  I looked back in ClubLog and I can count on one hand the number of new ones I've ever worked in the month of June (KH1/KH7Z was #319 and 5A1AL a few hours later was #320).  Looking for one more Q on 80m tonight and then I can get back to boating and fishing.  80m will tough from here, the sunset isn't for another few weeks...

73 es GL to all
John VE8EV

Thanks John.  And congrats to your ATNO as well.  GL on your 80m chase.  80m was the last band I had to chase them on.  After 80m Q in the wee hours today I spend the day in the mountains on my bike  :)  Enjoy the boating and fishing and I'll see you in the Ducie pileup, hihi.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 01, 2018, 07:03:12 PM
- John, I'm hoping for a very strong wind  ;D

- Andy, you don't have to wait for a CQ. Instead, enter their call sign into your WSJT-X software yourself manually by typing KH1/KH7Z into the call sign field under the "DX Call", then click the "Generate Std Msgs". Then you can start calling by clicking the "Enable Tx" button.

Marvin VE3VEE

Marvin,

I would never bet against you not working a dxpedition.  I know you will somehow find a way.  The 17m trick suggested by someone earlier is not a joke.  On 17m your 20m director element will become a 17m reflector element, and send the signal through the back of the beam :D  That's how I worked DX on 17m with my Skyhawk tri-bander, I pointed the beam opposite of the DX.  Give it a try.  GL on your ATNO chase.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 01, 2018, 07:05:43 PM
Wonder why they are choosing to work RTTY on 18.099 listening up? They are totally covering the standard 18.100 FT8 frequency.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on July 01, 2018, 07:22:42 PM
This is becoming frustrating.

NOTHING HEARD on any band/mode.

Have to set an alarm for tomorrow morning to listen on 40m
early in the AM.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1VT on July 01, 2018, 07:45:01 PM
They had a good signal this morning on 40M CW and were calling for NA, but I couldn't break the pileup even with the JAs standing by.

But, I just got them on 20M FT8, so I have them in the log for an ATNO!  They have a better signal on the East coast after midnight on 20, but then they are busy working Europe.

Zak W1VT


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1NK on July 01, 2018, 07:46:37 PM
Workable on 20M FT8 as we speak... I think I made a Q

Frank, W1NK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1VT on July 01, 2018, 07:50:29 PM
Yes, how good the reports are doesn't matter as long as you get that RR73!  My dipole at 35 feet just made it with -20/-19 reports. 

Zak W1VT


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1NK on July 01, 2018, 07:52:59 PM
Yes, how good the reports are doesn't matter as long as you get that RR73!

Zak W1VT

That's what has me puzzled, I never saw the RR73 just my report...so maybe no Q. 

I just don't want to dupe them if the Q is good

Frank, W1NK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K3STX on July 01, 2018, 08:11:21 PM
This is becoming frustrating.

NOTHING HEARD on any band/mode.

Have to set an alarm for tomorrow morning to listen on 40m
early in the AM.

I am in MD, not far away. They were easily readable about midnight last night on 20 CW for one contact and then I got some sleep and woke at 5 am (couldn’t sleep, too excited) and saw they were in 40 CW. Took about 10 minutes to realize their split was 10 kc!!!!  Got em within 40 minutes. All with 400 watts and fan dipole up 40 feet. You should at least Zhear them. It is SUPER EARLY morning for us on east Coast.

Paul


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on July 01, 2018, 08:11:49 PM
Finally!  :D

Got him on 20m. Man this was a real challenge. I have spent all day today monitoring this, as well as since the beginning. Very difficult for my location and antenna but it finally paid off.

Don't give up!

PS to the True Blue crowd - this IS real radio, it's difficult, and is NOT an automatic mode!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 01, 2018, 08:15:30 PM
Finally!  :D

Got him on 20m. Man this was a real challenge. I have spent all day today monitoring this, as well as since the beginning. Very difficult for my location and antenna but it finally paid off.

Don't give up!

PS to the True Blue crowd - this IS real radio, it's difficult, and is NOT an automatic mode!

I just snagged them on 20M FT8..  took me about 3 hours. Dang pileups are still bad.  and Propagation (at least with my antennas) is pretty marginal, with lots of QSB.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on July 01, 2018, 08:22:22 PM

I just snagged them on 20M FT8..  took me about 3 hours. Dang pileups are still bad.  and Propagation (at least with my antennas) is pretty marginal, with lots of QSB.

Congrats to you as well!  8)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1VT on July 01, 2018, 08:24:26 PM

That's what has me puzzled, I never saw the RR73 just my report...so maybe no Q.  

I just don't want to dupe them if the Q is good

Frank, W1NK

Just a report doesn't count.  You need to see the RR73.  I'd try again.

Zak W1VT


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 01, 2018, 09:13:39 PM
Finally!  :D

Got him on 20m. Man this was a real challenge. I have spent all day today monitoring this, as well as since the beginning. Very difficult for my location and antenna but it finally paid off.

Don't give up!

PS to the True Blue crowd - this IS real radio, it's difficult, and is NOT an automatic mode!

Congrats on the ATNO Mike!

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 01, 2018, 09:14:11 PM
They had a good signal this morning on 40M CW and were calling for NA, but I couldn't break the pileup even with the JAs standing by.

But, I just got them on 20M FT8, so I have them in the log for an ATNO!  They have a better signal on the East coast after midnight on 20, but then they are busy working Europe.

Zak W1VT

Congrats on the ATNO Zack!

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on July 02, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
According to VOA-CAP, the best time for Western Pennsylvania
to hear Baker-Howland on 40m is between 0700-1000z.
Listening on 7082, I hear half a syllable here, half there,
but nothing stable. CW might be a tad better, but they
have not been spotted on CW so far tonight.
I keep flipping to 7023 to listen just incase.

Geomagnetic indicies are low.

Sure hope things pick up tonight, but right now,
it doesn't look good.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1CX on July 02, 2018, 02:45:05 AM
A simple inverted V in the right direction or high dipole will put them in the log for you easily on the east coast on 40 at sunrise. 5-7:30 here in Boston they peak every day.



According to VOA-CAP, the best time for Western Pennsylvania
to hear Baker-Howland on 40m is between 0700-1000z.
Listening on 7082, I hear half a syllable here, half there,
but nothing stable. CW might be a tad better, but they
have not been spotted on CW so far tonight.
I keep flipping to 7023 to listen just incase.

Geomagnetic indicies are low.

Sure hope things pick up tonight, but right now,
it doesn't look good.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 02:51:38 AM
According to VOA-CAP, the best time for Western Pennsylvania
to hear Baker-Howland on 40m is between 0700-1000z.
Listening on 7082, I hear half a syllable here, half there,
but nothing stable. CW might be a tad better, but they
have not been spotted on CW so far tonight.
I keep flipping to 7023 to listen just incase.

Geomagnetic indicies are low.

Sure hope things pick up tonight, but right now,
it doesn't look good.

I've been up listening every morning so far waking up anywhere between 0700 to 0900. Their sigs start coming up around 1000 and get stronger here in NNJ.. that's been fairly consistent on 30/40m so now is probably a good time to start listening for them.



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on July 02, 2018, 03:09:38 AM
A simple inverted V in the right direction or high dipole will put them in the log for you easily on the east coast on 40 at sunrise. 5-7:30 here in Boston they peak every day.



According to VOA-CAP, the best time for Western Pennsylvania
to hear Baker-Howland on 40m is between 0700-1000z.
Listening on 7082, I hear half a syllable here, half there,
but nothing stable. CW might be a tad better, but they
have not been spotted on CW so far tonight.
I keep flipping to 7023 to listen just incase.

Geomagnetic indicies are low.

Sure hope things pick up tonight, but right now,
it doesn't look good.

Just worked them with a 40 meter dipole and 800 watts.  I'm 90 miles West of Boston.  I should've been up an hour ago but I'm a night owl and couldn't drag myself out of bed.  Anyway, they aren't booming in but they're between 559 to 579 and that's a workable signal.  Anybody located in the Northeast USA should try now.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 03:53:40 AM
Since working them on 40 cw yesterday, I treated myself to an hour of extra sleep and woke up in the middle of a nice 80m sig... shoulda kept the regular alarm time!!  ::)

Din't get em on 80 but will certainly keep trying!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W5JON on July 02, 2018, 05:20:12 AM
Hi,

VOACAP was right on the money with time and Band predictions.  Saturday night they were S4 on both 17m and 20m SSB.  Two calls on each band and KH1/KH7Z was in the  log. Usually I am "one and done", but it is nice to have a little insurance, as both are in the Online Log.  Thank you VOACAP.....

73,
John  V47JA


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 06:45:09 AM
The log was just updated.....

Queue it up...  8)

(http://www.sm5glc.se/ATNO.gif)

My 40 CW QSO is in! #317!



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 02, 2018, 07:12:55 AM
My 17M CW is in it!..  Yes!  It was "iffy" with the QSB, I wasn't 100% sure. Woo Hoo.   With the FT8 QSO's  if you get the RR73 message, and the popup log box, you can be pretty sure you are in his log, but sometimes SSB and CW QSO's can be a little uncertain, when the bottom drops out of the band during your exchange.  Band condx. are not exactly hot this week.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 02, 2018, 07:32:50 AM
Finally got them on 40 SSB.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on July 02, 2018, 08:16:06 AM
Around 0430z this morning, I finally heard them coming out
of the noise on 40m CW and RTTY. Phone was unusable.

They were VERY weak, but I tried calling a bunch of times
on both modes to no avail. I even committed the ultimate sin,
on 40 RTTY, I failed to enable 'split' once and got bombarded
with UP  UP  UP.

OOPS !

Maybe I'll try again tomorrow morning, maybe not.

The days of staying up all night and sitting in 'the chair'
working a contest or listening for DX are mostly over.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 02, 2018, 08:18:43 AM
Tried for a while on 20m FT8 last night but didn't make it through... 17m was much easier  ;)  The pile-up must have been thick because they were +01db on their CQs but were sometimes running five streams at once making them much weaker but still fully readable.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 02, 2018, 08:20:22 AM
They were on 20 last night, just booming into oregon, unfortunately for me, they were working EU the entire time.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1VT on July 02, 2018, 08:40:09 AM
Here is what they say about FT8 contacts:

Call as long as you need to work KH1/KH7Z. We will be operating often with “multiple streams”, a new DXpedition submode capability, and we may be conducting QSOs with as many as 5 stations simultaneously. While we are completing QSOs with stations, we are also selecting new stations to work from those who have been calling. For your call to be selected, you need to call whenever you are able to decode us.
Once you decode the message “<Your Call> KH7Z RR73” (also called the TX4 message) from us, you should log the QSO. Keep calling until you complete this step. Duplicate QSOs on a band are not recommended. If your callsign does not appear in the twice-daily log updates to ClubLog, feel free to repeat a QSO.



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on July 02, 2018, 08:43:21 AM
They were way loud on 160 (!) this morning around 1100Z.  By far the best I've heard them on that band.  Noise was low and the signal just stood out.  Working the east coast too, apparently somewhat after sunrise by looking at the ol' Geochron.  I heard him working ones and twos (hello Peter!).

Got them on 40 @1057Z today for my last band fill.  RTTY last night on 17, so that's it for me!  Just waiting for the 40m Q to show in their log.  Tomorrow I sleep in.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1VT on July 02, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
They were on 20 last night, just booming into oregon, unfortunately for me, they were working EU the entire time.

That is typical for a Pacific DX-pedition.  Europe is an polar path for them, so they will ignore everything else if the polar path is open.  A minor solar event could close the Polar path for the rest of the operation.

Zak W1VT


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 02, 2018, 09:02:49 AM
Thanks Zak, hopefully they will be on again tonight, and no polar path!  :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5UD on July 02, 2018, 09:22:04 AM
Went out after sundown to catch a new one for the mobile. About an hour after sundown good copy here on 3 bands. I had already made a couple of light Q's before the signals really came up. Made some insurance Q's. So 7 Q's by 1015 PM.

Checked clublog this morning. Sure enough my first QSO did not get logged /M. Along with 2 others.

73 guys and GL


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1NK on July 02, 2018, 09:34:21 AM
Here is what they say about FT8 contacts:

Call as long as you need to work KH1/KH7Z. We will be operating often with “multiple streams”, a new DXpedition submode capability, and we may be conducting QSOs with as many as 5 stations simultaneously. While we are completing QSOs with stations, we are also selecting new stations to work from those who have been calling. For your call to be selected, you need to call whenever you are able to decode us.
Once you decode the message “<Your Call> KH7Z RR73” (also called the TX4 message) from us, you should log the QSO. Keep calling until you complete this step. Duplicate QSOs on a band are not recommended. If your callsign does not appear in the twice-daily log updates to ClubLog, feel free to repeat a QSO.



Thanks Zack, that definitely clears things up for me and means my "Q" is NIL

Frank, W1NK


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KF7CSO on July 02, 2018, 11:24:59 AM
Well, I'm in the log. Nice to be back in the hobby and the fray.

Eric
KF7CSO


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1BR on July 02, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
So far, what has been the best time for the Northeast to have a shot on 30 or 40 meters?  3 or 4 AM?  I'd love a CW contact on either band.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 12:41:52 PM
So far, what has been the best time for the Northeast to have a shot on 30 or 40 meters?  3 or 4 AM?  I'd love a CW contact on either band.


5:30am - 7:30am EST, with the sweet spot being about 6am - 7am when they were the loudest for me.. taking advantage of greyline.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 02, 2018, 12:43:10 PM
So far, what has been the best time for the Northeast to have a shot on 30 or 40 meters?  3 or 4 AM?  I'd love a CW contact on either band.

I have found both 40M and 30M to be peaking right around my sunrise and 30M sticks around well after sunrise.

If you can catch them much earlier than sunrise, there will be fewer people awake so less competition. And it may be easier to complete the QSO even though the path isn't quite greyline optimal.

Below are my Q's on 40m and 30M with KH1:

40M CW - 1020Z - 6:20AM my time - a half hour after my sunrise
30M CW - 1136Z - 7:36AM my time - almost two hours after my sunrise
80M CW - 0942Z - 5:42AM my time - 5 minutes before my sunrise
40M SSB - 1000Z - 6:00AM my time - 13 minutes after my sunrise


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1BR on July 02, 2018, 12:58:27 PM
I was listening around 3AM for a few minutes and again at 8:30AM.   Guess I will have get up earlier, or stay up later!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 01:33:44 PM
I was listening around 3AM for a few minutes and again at 8:30AM.   Guess I will have get up earlier, or stay up later!


Yup, I had been getting up at 3AM for several mornings and while I could tell they were there.. they were down in the mud and not copyable. Once the sun came up things started to change and the sigs came up to a nice workable signal. By 7 or 730 the sigs started to go back down. CW you should have no problem hearing them. I can't say the same for SSB though... not once on any band have I heard them.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 02, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
Why are so many people so ignorant of procedures and protocol?  I see so many people calling the fox down below 1000hz. NOT giving a report, but calling for the first time.  AND some are even out of sequence and calling on the fox's timeslot!  Apparently not even using the correct version of software. Having never even taken a minute to understand how the fox and hound feature works.  Why do some come to the fox and hound frequency of the DXpedetion and call CQ?.. AND yes some idiots answer them! Is ignorance among our ranks that widespread....don't answer that!  :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on July 02, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
So far, what has been the best time for the Northeast to have a shot on 30 or 40 meters?  3 or 4 AM?  I'd love a CW contact on either band.


5:30am - 7:30am EST, with the sweet spot being about 6am - 7am when they were the loudest for me.. taking advantage of greyline.

Greyline is "over" by 6:30 am.   They really should be looking for East Coast by 5 am here local.   



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on July 02, 2018, 04:05:06 PM
Why are so many people so ignorant of procedures and protocol?  I see so many people calling the fox down below 1000hz. NOT giving a report, but calling for the first time.  AND some are even out of sequence and calling on the fox's timeslot!  Apparently not even using the correct version of software. Having never even taken a minute to understand how the fox and hound feature works.  Why do some come to the fox and hound frequency of the DXpedetion and call CQ?.. AND yes some idiots answer them! Is ignorance among our ranks that widespread....don't answer that!  :)

I explained the F&H mode to a couple of my local ham friends who wanted to work them with FT8. They are not dumb people. However, one of them told me he got a DX cop email telling him he was calling the Fox below 1000. I totally explained all this to him before, but it wasn't enough. I had to go through it again over the phone. I can't say why it seems so hard to understand, but it seems to be confusing to many.

Perhaps when you check the "Hound" checkbox the program should implement more controls on the operator and or visual clues such as a bright line drawn at 1000 Hz to prevent some of these issues?

I dunno ...  ???


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2LO on July 02, 2018, 04:11:19 PM
 While I'm in TN, I concur with N2SR. East Coast greyline activity should be well underway by 5am EDST.

 Adding to the above, greyline propagation sweeps through geographic regions so what may be a greyline peak in
Maine may not be anything in New Jersey; the sun would be lower in NJ. I might add that greyline peaks for some reason on 160 don't seem to frequently occur from stations in central Africa at their SR.

 It's weird and unpredictable phenomena-but it frequently does happen!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
While I'm in TN, I concur with N2SR. East Coast greyline activity should be well underway by 5am EDST.

Interesting... ok, then I guess my understanding of propagation / greyline is a bit off then.

If it's not greyline that that I hear for the hour they peak from 6am-7+am after the sun comes up.. then what is it? All this time I always thought that was what greyline was. Well, whatever it is... I use it to my advantage.

When listening at 5am during what you guys are saying East Coast greyline is.. I don't hear any change in the signal.. it's the same strength as it would be at 3 or 4 am.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on July 02, 2018, 04:26:21 PM
Who here has worked them on 80 or 160 from W1-2-3? I haven't gotten them on either yet; never heard or even seen them spotted. Got through on 30 and 40m OK, but not the real lowbands.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 02, 2018, 04:37:11 PM
Who here has worked them on 80 or 160 from W1-2-3? I haven't gotten them on either yet; never heard or even seen them spotted. Got through on 30 and 40m OK, but not the real lowbands.

I haven't worked them on 80 yet, but they had a decent workable signal this morning on 80.. I jumped in the pileup for a little bit. I think it was around 530am local time. I know of one person in W2 that worked them on 80 this morning. I'll be up in the mornings until I run out of mornings to try for them on 30 and 80. 20 I've pretty much given up on at this point... I'll still take a listen tho for the 20m spots just in case.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 02, 2018, 04:59:55 PM
Everyone did catch that July 4th late will be their last operating day now.  All packed up and gone by July 6th.

They will also try FT8 on July 3rd at 0900 on 1840khz on 160M.  NORMAL FT8, not fox and hound.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on July 02, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
Who here has worked them on 80 or 160 from W1-2-3? I haven't gotten them on either yet; never heard or even seen them spotted. Got through on 30 and 40m OK, but not the real lowbands.

ClubLog propagation chart shows 80/160m qsos from NJ.

3   160m qsos , 06:00z, 07:00z and 09:00z time frames.
5    80qsos,  07:00z, 08:00z and 09:00z time frames.

W2,
19 80m qsos, 07:00z-12:00z
23 160m sos, 06:00z-12:00z

W1/W3 appox the same

I don't know how you have your filters set, but there are a lot of 80/160m spots around those times.

Good luck, hope you can get your lowband qsos.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on July 02, 2018, 08:03:39 PM
They have a good signal on 17m at this moment in STX.

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 02, 2018, 08:32:42 PM
They have a good signal on 17m at this moment in STX.

Obie N5VYS
Weak in NC, but the first time I was able to hear him on 17m SSB. He almost got me at one point, but couldn't pull out my full call  :(

Ah well, I've got my ATNO, so I am not going to sweat over missing additional QSOs.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on July 02, 2018, 08:57:53 PM
Signal finally came up enough on 12m FT8......lots of qsb, anywhere from a -21 to +06


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VK3MEG on July 02, 2018, 09:04:55 PM
Quote
Why are so many people so ignorant of procedures and protocol?  I see so many people calling the fox down below 1000hz. NOT giving a report, but calling for the first time.  AND some are even out of sequence and calling on the fox's timeslot!  Apparently not even using the correct version of software. Having never even taken a minute to understand how the fox and hound feature works.  Why do some come to the fox and hound frequency of the DXpedition and call CQ?.. AND yes some idiots answer them! Is ignorance among our ranks that widespread....don't answer that!  Smiley

its pretty simple you have a lot of older people not computer savvy trying to work an ATNO in a strange mode .simple
if not for ft8 my elemer with his wores and vertical would have no qso's ne used ft8 and got 2 which is great i think it had been a great addition. i got 1 slot in ft8 cause the rtty pile ups were crazy . that it unless its a new band for get it


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB3CQM on July 02, 2018, 10:04:42 PM
Who here has worked them on 80 or 160 from W1-2-3? I haven't gotten them on either yet; never heard or even seen them spotted. Got through on 30 and 40m OK, but not the real lowbands.

 I worked them on 160 cw  for No# 184 and 20 cw for  ATNO  No# 334 cw / 335 mixed current , having 10 deleted cw brings the total to 345 mixed.

For the record 80 meters is Not a real lowband . 80 meters is a Short Wave band in the HF spectrum


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: ZL1BBW on July 02, 2018, 10:33:08 PM
Got him on 80CW last night, it was intersting to listen to the calling pile up, herard FM5BH in there with a good sig  Gavin ZL1BBW


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 03, 2018, 03:40:15 AM
(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36579053_1728711677206312_8748709104752525312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=11cd136662e1505f1d07d603bfae58df&oe=5BDD2213)

I'm QRT on 20m. I disassembled my 5 ele monobander, took the rotor down. The nex step is to take the rotor apart and either fix it or buy a new one.

(https://scontent.fybz2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36521302_1729942603749886_8479990722076868608_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=eb9dce98389f59f74eb401601c796dd7&oe=5BAE7E97)

I made a temporary 40m dipole in the hope of not missing The Baker Island DXpedition. I don't want to wait another 10+ years for the next one! After an hour of calling, I just worked them on 7.023. The pressure is off.  ;D

The reason I decided on a 40m dipole is that I never heard them well on any other band but 40m.

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 03, 2018, 04:18:20 AM
Congrats Marvin! You did what you had to do to get em' in the log.  8) GL with the antenna repairs


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W9CN on July 03, 2018, 04:29:23 AM
After grenading a raft of rotators over the years, I ended up having Kurt Andress, K7NV build me a prop pitch rotator.  Virtually indestructible.  Usual Caveat Apply: Not Cheap.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: XW0LP on July 03, 2018, 04:33:54 AM
Congrats Marvin!

As for me, I left for work this morning, with no signal from them on 15 metres.

I get to work 20 minutes later, log into my ham laptop remotely, and there they are!  I make a call back to them and then lose my remote internet connection.  :(

When I got home an hour ago, I found my laptop had died a death (Blue Screen of Death) at the shock of receiving the Baker Island signal  ;D

Hopefully band conditions will be similar tomorrow and give me another chance for a QSO.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 03, 2018, 04:43:25 AM
I tried for a bit on 40m FT8 since I was getting good copy on them all morning.

I ran into some sort of RF feedback issue with the CAT cable I picked up for my IC-746. I picked the cable up off ebay so I could use my radio with fox / hound mode (just using regular ft8 prior I was using just my rigblaster and all was fine).

What was happening is when I ran more than 20-25 watts on 40, the software would toggle off the transmitter after about 8 or 9 seconds and an error message would pop up saying "Rig Control Error.. Do you want to reconfigure the interface"?  As soon as I dropped the power back down.. problem went away. I tried on another band with 100w and it was fine. I tried putting some RF Chokes on the CAT cable.... no help. LOL so, well, I just tried at 20w... it's better than trying with 0w. Didn't get em'... but at least I got to hop in the pileup for a bit.

I did notice they were mostly operating single TXstream. Once in a while there would be 2 streams. There were a ton of US stations calling. Mostly JA's getting through, a few US stations here and there. It was often they were calling CQ.. sometimes 5 or 10 times. I'm guessing that maybe with such a huge amount of callers.. maybe they were getting very few decodes simply because so many people calling / signals too close / signals on top of each other?

Saw them on 80ssb but not a good enough copy to call.

Well, off to work. Back at it tomorrow morning to try for 80 or 30. Still happy with the one QSO... all you need is one :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9AOP on July 03, 2018, 05:18:51 AM
Good conditions on 20 into Chicago this AM.  Great ops on Baker.
Art


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on July 03, 2018, 05:52:49 AM
Came down to the shack around 4 am.   They were spotted on 40 cw about 4:10 am.   I go, and the op is working JA's, that I cannot hear.  I called once, he comes back to another JA.  I move my QSX frequency, and call again.   He comes back to another JA.   But I tail-ended, and the op comes back:  SR?   So I send N2SR N2SR.   Op comes back N2SR 5NN.   I reply with 5NN TU.   I need to set up an audio recorder. 

Not a new one, but a new band country on 40, which makes it #318 I think.   

Now for 80.   

Congrats to Marvin and eveyrone else!   





Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1BR on July 03, 2018, 06:51:13 AM
Worked them at around 5:30AM;  he was answering a lot of JA stations that I could not hear. Finally was able to hear a 5NN and tail ended, and got him.  Had to sent my miserable CW call several times so he could get it right, LOL.  Now to see if shows in the log. So far no busts, they have good ears.  I'm done with this one.  160 meter ant. is down, didn't hear any action on 10MHz.
Pete


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0YQ on July 03, 2018, 07:11:57 AM

I'm QRT on 20m. I disassembled my 5 ele monobander, took the rotor down. The nex step is to take the rotor apart and either fix it or buy a new one.

I made a temporary 40m dipole in the hope of not missing The Baker Island DXpedition. I don't want to wait another 10+ years for the next one! After an hour of calling, I just worked them on 7.023. The pressure is off.  ;D

The reason I decided on a 40m dipole is that I never heard them well on any other band but 40m.

Marvin VE3VEE

Congratulations Marvin and I very sincerely applaud your initiative and ingenuity.   


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5UD on July 03, 2018, 08:04:29 AM
Their signal this morning on 3785 was below the JA rag-chewers to start around 1000Z. When the rag-chewers stopped. Still not much improvement. BIG JA pile on 3795 calling them. As with other occasions, lots of repeated callsigns by the JA's to confirm a QSO. Kept waiting for my sunrise peak about 1115Z. It didn't happen. A few minutes after my sunrise. Even the JA's faded out.
I finally heard N6TA make a stateside QSO. I quit.

This was really crummy for a signal from the Pacific. I can't recall ever not hearing a Pacific operation on 80M


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on July 03, 2018, 08:51:50 AM
Their signal this morning on 3785 was below the JA rag-chewers to start around 1000Z. When the rag-chewers stopped. Still not much improvement. BIG JA pile on 3795 calling them. As with other occasions, lots of repeated callsigns by the JA's to confirm a QSO. Kept waiting for my sunrise peak about 1115Z. It didn't happen. A few minutes after my sunrise. Even the JA's faded out.
I finally heard N6TA make a stateside QSO. I quit.

This was really crummy for a signal from the Pacific. I can't recall ever not hearing a Pacific operation on 80M

Yes, I agree. I'd hoped they would have used a vertical dipole array in the salt water for 80 and 160, with the usual massive signal that results in, but IIRC, they were restricted to 43' verticals, hence the poor signals. That doesn't excuse the lack of a heavy presence on the air at greylines, however. Given the weak signals that a compromise antenna system results in, I'd have expected FT8 every morning, since it's better at digging weak signals than the human ear, and employing the LOCATION FILTERING that's built in to Fox Mode.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on July 03, 2018, 09:21:16 AM
Alarm went off at 0445 eastern this morning.
Rolled over, turned it off, don't remember anything until
the telephone rang at 10 something.

Sleep more necessary than Baker Island.

Looks like this one will be in the 'missed' column.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W1BR on July 03, 2018, 09:37:26 AM
I see they are planning on tearing down earlier... also looking to give east coast a shot at 160 meters; and also adding FT-8 to 160 meters for one evening.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE8EV on July 03, 2018, 09:42:15 AM

I'm QRT on 20m. I disassembled my 5 ele monobander, took the rotor down. The nex step is to take the rotor apart and either fix it or buy a new one.

I made a temporary 40m dipole in the hope of not missing The Baker Island DXpedition. I don't want to wait another 10+ years for the next one! After an hour of calling, I just worked them on 7.023. The pressure is off.  ;D

The reason I decided on a 40m dipole is that I never heard them well on any other band but 40m.

Marvin VE3VEE

That must have been a brutal job between the long drive and the heat wave you're having down there.  Outstanding effort to work the DX, so glad it paid off for you!

73
John VE8EV


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9CM on July 03, 2018, 09:46:33 AM
No joy on 40....too many JAs being worked and seemingly high noise here...oh well..guess I will be waiting 10 years for a 40 meter contact..dont. need them for a new one, but do on 40...LOL


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 03, 2018, 09:51:50 AM
This was really crummy for a signal from the Pacific. I can't recall ever not hearing a Pacific operation on 80M

To US East Coast (Zone 5), their 160M numbers are almost as big as their 80M numbers. That's just unprecedented. I got them on 80M and they were not very loud at all to me, but they heard me just fine.

They have been loud loud loud on 40M every single morning (either CW or phone) and I'm surprised the statistics don't show many more east coasters working them on 40M.

(http://n3qe.org/kh1.png)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0RS on July 03, 2018, 09:58:57 AM
To US East Coast (Zone 5), their 160M numbers are almost as big as their 80M numbers. That's just unprecedented.

On more than one morning they have been louder on 160 than 80 here.  Granted, I'm not on the East Coast, but still...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 03, 2018, 10:46:02 AM

That must have been a brutal job between the long drive and the heat wave you're having down there.  Outstanding effort to work the DX, so glad it paid off for you!

73
John VE8EV


John, a Wireless Internet Service provider has it's antennas under my antenna so to minimize the Internet downtime for subscribers, we decided to tilt the tower down very early, when people are still in bed. We started at 4:30 am, it was a pleasant temperature, no wind, clear sky, moon light, etc. Ideal situation, we just couldn't see very well an hour before sunrise.  ;D  ;D ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 03, 2018, 01:37:58 PM
I didn't have much time for reading the past couple of days, so sorry if anyone mentioned this before, but I just read this update: "because of the tides and heat we start tearing down late on the 4th and leave Baker on the 6th".

Source: http://kh7z.net/

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD8MJR on July 03, 2018, 01:42:01 PM

I'm QRT on 20m. I disassembled my 5 ele monobander, took the rotor down. The nex step is to take the rotor apart and either fix it or buy a new one.



I made a temporary 40m dipole in the hope of not missing The Baker Island DXpedition. I don't want to wait another 10+ years for the next one! After an hour of calling, I just worked them on 7.023. The pressure is off.  ;D

The reason I decided on a 40m dipole is that I never heard them well on any other band but 40m.

Marvin VE3VEE

Great news Marvin!  I am glad you got the ATNO.

73
Rob


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6GX on July 03, 2018, 03:10:09 PM
Congratulations Marvin and I very sincerely applaud your initiative and ingenuity.   

+1.  See you in the Ducie pileups :)

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 03, 2018, 03:53:11 PM
Congratulations Marvin and I very sincerely applaud your initiative and ingenuity.   

+1.  See you in the Ducie pileups :)

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Thanks guys. Hopefully my rotor and a new antenna will be up by then!  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N4SRN on July 03, 2018, 05:00:40 PM
I didn't have much time for reading the past couple of days, so sorry if anyone mentioned this before, but I just read this update: "because of the tides and heat we start tearing down late on the 4th and leave Baker on the 6th".

Source: http://kh7z.net/

Marvin VE3VEE

Oh geez, thought I had to the 7th... Just started today and they were working Japan almost exclusively when propagation was favorable to NH, USA. I guess it’s tomorrow or bust!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9CM on July 03, 2018, 05:32:59 PM
Yeah missing my 15M CW QSO from a couple of days ago...sigh...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KC0OW on July 03, 2018, 05:34:27 PM
I can't recall ever not hearing a Pacific operation on 80M

PERHAPS their inline band pass filters were/are are the culprits IF they're using them?

regards, scott


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9CM on July 03, 2018, 06:15:21 PM
From the stats, sure working the heck out of Asia..not surprised....every time I hear them on, it seems for the 2-3 hours I listen 60-75 percent is a JA callsign....

Nice to get an RTTY QSO but don't think they are into RTTY.  Oh well, there is always next time...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU1O on July 03, 2018, 06:47:34 PM
Nice to get an RTTY QSO but don't think they are into RTTY.  Oh well, there is always next time...

I wouldn't make a large bet there will be a next time.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 03, 2018, 08:01:14 PM
17m seems to be my lucky band! I've been in the 20m CW pileup for a while and they have a fair signal there. However, I decided to check their signal on 17m CW. No more than S-2 but easily workable after a handful of calls  :) Here's their signal here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5auq8cvoRE

Got CW, and FT8 now!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NU4B on July 03, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
Is it too late to helicopter in some personal space coolers, as seen in TV for only $19.95? For each one we buy we can get another free if we pay a separate fee.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5PG on July 03, 2018, 11:15:39 PM
Great sig in NTX now, 0615Z 10107 up 2 or 3.
73


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 03, 2018, 11:25:07 PM
Nice.. got my second QSO with them - new band and new mode... first FT8 Fox/Hound QSO. Took two times to send my sig rpt but got the RR73. Great sigs right now on 30m @0600ish Utc. Now to see if I can grab them on 80 then I think I'm done with as far as I can go.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 04, 2018, 02:51:15 AM
May have had an 80m QSO with them.. total ESP. I guess that'll be the surprise if it's in the log or not. Kinda sure they worked me.. they had a pretty good sig but darn static crashes and people optimizing their reception capability by tuning right on top of them made it difficult to hear. As it sounds like this was the last morning.. this is probably it for me. 20 and above were basically silent for me the entire time.

So it looks like I worked them on 40cw, 30ft8 and maybe (probably not) 80 cw. Glad I was able to add another ATNO this year.

My thanks and compliments to the team for a job well done and I wish them a safe trip home.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KW4CQ on July 04, 2018, 06:05:08 AM
Help!  Can anyone recall the approximate time frame (UTC) they were on 20m CW yesterday (or evening) they were working East Coast NA?  I see I have them confirmed in ClubLog. An ATNO for me. They were my one and only KH1 contact but guess what?  In my excitement and jubilation at finally making the contact after days of effort I forgot to  enter them in my log.  Can anyone help me with their 20m cw  time frames yesterday and perhaps I can do a search on ClubLog using various time entries to see if I can get a QSL or LoTW confirmation.
Happy Fourth to all and 73,
Bob KW4CQ


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 04, 2018, 06:59:10 AM
Help!  Can anyone recall the approximate time frame (UTC) they were on 20m CW yesterday (or evening) they were working East Coast NA?  I see I have them confirmed in ClubLog. An ATNO for me. They were my one and only KH1 contact but guess what?  In my excitement and jubilation at finally making the contact after days of effort I forgot to  enter them in my log.  Can anyone help me with their 20m cw  time frames yesterday and perhaps I can do a search on ClubLog using various time entries to see if I can get a QSL or LoTW confirmation.
Happy Fourth to all and 73,
Bob KW4CQ

They were spotted most of the day on 20 CW from US stations.. as early as 1200 utc 7/3 - 0330 7/4. There was a gap of no spots.. and then more spots from 0459 7/4 to 0925 7/4. I guess if you can sort of remember what time.. when OQRS is up you can probably try putting different times in to get a match?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 04, 2018, 07:08:11 AM
Help!  Can anyone recall the approximate time frame (UTC) they were on 20m CW yesterday (or evening) they were working East Coast NA?  I see I have them confirmed in ClubLog. An ATNO for me. They were my one and only KH1 contact but guess what?  In my excitement and jubilation at finally making the contact after days of effort I forgot to  enter them in my log.  Can anyone help me with their 20m cw  time frames yesterday and perhaps I can do a search on ClubLog using various time entries to see if I can get a QSL or LoTW confirmation.
Happy Fourth to all and 73,
Bob KW4CQ

See this is one of the reason I "brag spot" every rare DX after working them. In case I lose my log - or more likely like you, I just forget to log them - I can go back to DXwatch.com and look up my spot history and reconstruct it!

Broadly KH1 is likely to be worked from east coast US on 20M anytime from 0000Z-0600Z Could be even broader than that because they are on 20M around the clock basically. That doesn't narrow it down much at all. But you can shotgun via clublog 12 QSO's, one every 30 minutes (Clublog match tolerance is +/- 15 minutes so you only need one every 30 minutes) and see which one matches.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K8CMO on July 04, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
In Ohio their 20 meter signal has been pretty much ESP--too weak to work.  I have never hear a good enough signal on 20 to work them.    30 and 40 meters have been the only bands where they have been workable from here.  K8CMO


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on July 04, 2018, 09:20:08 AM
Maybe if you email NF4A, and explain the situation to them, they may look at the log and give you a time.   Give them all the details (date and approximate time), and if you can remember a callsign of someone they worked before you or after you, it will "strengthen your case."   I doubt you will get the information before the DXpedition is completed and they are off the island. 

Many years ago, I did that with VP9SSI.  I had a hard drive crash, and lost all my DX records.  I sent a letter to the QSL manager , explaining the situation, told them what band/modes I had worked them on, and included like $10 in the envelope.   A few weeks later, I had the QSL cards back. 

Same with VK9MA.  I worked them on 80, but the op got my call wrong.  I emailed the pilot station, explained the issue (of course, I had the date and time).  He replied, saying they would not correct the log during the expedition, but suggested I work them again, which I did.   A few weeks later, I got an email back saying that, yes the op did log me incorrectly. 

Most guys are reasonable, and will give you the benefit of the doubt.  Tell them it's your only QSO and a new one for you. 

Good luck! 


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 04, 2018, 09:35:49 AM
So what was with all of the Deliberate QRM this morning on the 30 meter CW frequency? Even one prominent member of this forum calling CQ right on the KH1 frequency.  Or someone bootlegged his call. I did not get them this morning on, and the deliberate QRM may be one reason why.  The other reason is the pileup is still hella big. Does anyone causing the deliberate QRM have anything to say in their defense, or will you slink away like a cur dog?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KD8MJR on July 04, 2018, 09:43:30 AM
So what was with all of the Deliberate QRM this morning on the 30 meter CW frequency? Even one prominent member of this forum calling CQ right on the KH1 frequency.  Or someone bootlegged his call. I did not get them this morning on, and the deliberate QRM may be one reason why.  The other reason is the pileup is still hella big. Does anyone causing the deliberate QRM have anything to say in their defense, or will you slink away like a cur dog?

Pony up some call signs and lets hash this out like in the old days  ;)

We are all waiting:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/K9b2WiPZi0ZjO/giphy.gif)

73
Rob


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 04, 2018, 09:57:01 AM
So what was with all of the Deliberate QRM this morning on the 30 meter CW frequency? Even one prominent member of this forum calling CQ right on the KH1 frequency.  Or someone bootlegged his call. I did not get them this morning on, and the deliberate QRM may be one reason why.  The other reason is the pileup is still hella big. Does anyone causing the deliberate QRM have anything to say in their defense, or will you slink away like a cur dog?

Pony up some call signs and lets hash this out like in the old days  ;)

We are all waiting:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/K9b2WiPZi0ZjO/giphy.gif)

73
Rob

Well, I kinda hate to offer up his callsign, because I suspect it wasn't really him behind the key.  I will say this, whomever did it was a ....not nice... guy... ::)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on July 04, 2018, 09:59:40 AM
The other reason is the pileup is still hella big.

This was a hard one for the guys with 100 watts and a wire, and I feel sorry for them.  Some of my buddies were totally shut out.  Then again, some other buddies totally pigged out.   :D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 04, 2018, 10:06:41 AM
The other reason is the pileup is still hella big.

This was a hard one for the guys with 100 watts and a wire, and I feel sorry for them.  Some of my buddies were totally shut out.  Then again, some other buddies totally pigged out.   :D

yep, I am 100 watts and a wire. I think it was doable, but I didn't do it. The DQRM was pretty thick for a while.  I used the great qrm fighting features of my 7300 and squeezed the passband down to 50 hz, but when the DQRM is right on the DX's frequency, no amount of squeezing is gonna help.  The DX quit for a while but came back, but he faded shortly later and I just didn't make it on this band.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5UD on July 04, 2018, 10:23:59 AM
Yes I heard that DQRM on 30M this morning. It was not the real op. Just some fool. Mostly due to speed difference of the fool and the KH1 I could keep them straight. It only got tough when everyone piled on "UP".

I got my QSO up 3.8 Khz.

73 N5UD mobile only


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on July 04, 2018, 10:33:51 AM
I have not heard them well enough on 80 M
To call them?

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9CM on July 04, 2018, 11:12:37 AM
Same here and had to work them twice to get one contact to show up in their on line log even though I have a recording of it clear as a whistle.  Not sure what is happening or what happened on their logging side.  Others have missing Qs from days ago also.  I hate wasting time making a dupe...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5UD on July 04, 2018, 11:40:43 AM
I have not heard them well enough on 80 M
To call them?

Obie N5VYS
Hey Obie, did you see that 75M SSB report I gave ?

I am not kidding about the crummy signal, at least that morning. In 50 years of this DX chasing, I can't recall not hearing a single Pacific station. I might not work them ? I might have unbearable QRN ? But at least I get most of the signal. I was hearing the JA ragchewers on 3785 better than KH1.

N5UD


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on July 04, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Same here and had to work them twice to get one contact to show up in their on line log even though I have a recording of it clear as a whistle.  Not sure what is happening or what happened on their logging side.  Others have missing Qs from days ago also.  I hate wasting time making a dupe...


Just curious Chris, what is your setup for recording?   Every time I work some of these stations, I get asked by a few guys in work, "how do they sound?"  Or, "how loud were they to you?"   Most aren't hard core DXers, but it would be nice to share the thrill of the Q with them.

Tom


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WA2VUY on July 04, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
"We start tearing down at daybreak and plan to have 3 of the 8 radios and 5 of the 10 antennas in their boxes and on the boat by lunch.

We will operate some CW and SSB in the afternoon until dark and dismantle more in the evening. Final shutdown occurs at our sunrise Thursday and we must have the camp dismantled and on the boat by Thursday night."


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 04, 2018, 02:26:23 PM
Same here and had to work them twice to get one contact to show up in their on line log even though I have a recording of it clear as a whistle.  Not sure what is happening or what happened on their logging side.  Others have missing Qs from days ago also.  I hate wasting time making a dupe...


Just curious Chris, what is your setup for recording?   Every time I work some of these stations, I get asked by a few guys in work, "how do they sound?"  Or, "how loud were they to you?"   Most aren't hard core DXers, but it would be nice to share the thrill of the Q with them.

Tom


Here is a couple of easy ways to record.  On the Icom Ic7300 it has built in recording.  It records to the SD card.  unmount and remove the SD card and plug it into your PC. Take the wave file and do what you want with it.  email, save, etc. It will also record both sides of the conversation if you want.   It also will take a picture of the display, including waterfall.  A snapshot in time.  Some of the rig control programs like Ham Radio Deluxe will record audio also directly to your pc. thru your soundcard.  Not as quick and convenient as the built in recording of the modern Icom rigs, but still doable. I don't have a 7610 or even one of the older rigs with an ethernet port, but I bet you cn export the audio files from thes rigs into your network without removing the SD card.  But removing the SD on the 7300 is no big deal, it is right up front.  3 or 4 seconds to get it out and 1 second to put it back in.  It is also used to backup all of its configurations and upgrade software.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N9CM on July 04, 2018, 03:01:34 PM
Same here and had to work them twice to get one contact to show up in their on line log even though I have a recording of it clear as a whistle.  Not sure what is happening or what happened on their logging side.  Others have missing Qs from days ago also.  I hate wasting time making a dupe...


Just curious Chris, what is your setup for recording?   Every time I work some of these stations, I get asked by a few guys in work, "how do they sound?"  Or, "how loud were they to you?"   Most aren't hard core DXers, but it would be nice to share the thrill of the Q with them.


I use an external voice recorder.  I also have an external voice keyer with voice recording ability (and cw since it is all audio).  Doesn't do much good it the DX station does respond to emails and you have to wait until they get "home" and then still they don't sort it out.  NIL isn't any good once the operation is over...LOL
Tom



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on July 04, 2018, 03:43:38 PM
I have not heard them well enough on 80 M
To call them?

Obie N5VYS
Hey Obie, did you see that 75M SSB report I gave ?

I am not kidding about the crummy signal, at least that morning. In 50 years of this DX chasing, I can't recall not hearing a single Pacific station. I might not work them ? I might have unbearable QRN ? But at least I get most of the signal. I was hearing the JA ragchewers on 3785 better than KH1.

N5UD
No I did not Tony?

Obie N5VYS
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Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 04, 2018, 05:20:10 PM
what is your setup for recording?

Already have radio audio hooked up to computer for digital modes. I just start up Audacity and record a mono .WAV file at 8kHz sample rate.

I will occasionally record an hour, or a whole 48 hour contest.

But... when would I ever have a time to listen to it again?

I will occasionally record QRM/jammers/unidentified signals and post for help identifying them.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: XW0LP on July 04, 2018, 05:52:21 PM
Yes!! Finally got a QSO with KH1/KH7Z :)

I had been monitoring 15 metres every local morning (my XZ ham licence only allows me to operate on 15, 12 and 10, not on 20 metres).

Every morning this week, I spot Baker Island just as I'm leaving for work. By the time I cycle to work (20 minutes), and fire up remote access, the signal has faded away.

So I left early for work today, with no KH1 station being received, but with signals from a couple of JAs who were receiving their signals.

So I get to work and am clocking in at the admin office. While waiting for someone to unlock the office door, I fire up my laptop and connect via VNC and mobile internet to my ham station, just a few miles down the road.

KH1/KH7Z is there! He's working mainly US stations. with not a lot of hope that my 25 watt signal will be heard, I reply to his calls....

Within only a few minutes, I get a -15 reply from Baker Island. From there, the WSJT-X F&H routine takes over, my reply is automatically sent and only a minute later I get the RR73 :)

Here's my very temporary remote station at the school in Myanmar, sitting in the corridor with my cycling clothes and lunch caddy tins.

(http://www.teachersimon.org/baker.jpg)

Ham radio - you can do it literally from anywhere.....

Update:
Quote
"because of the tides and heat we start tearing down late on the 4th and leave Baker on the 6th".

Wow!  I got this QSO in the nick of time! It was about 11am local time on Baker on the 4th..... thank heavens they are behind UTC and I'm ahead of UTC!



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 04, 2018, 05:58:51 PM
Checked the log update today... It looks like all my QSO's were good... even my 80m ESP QSO.
40cw, 30ft8, 80cw.. yay! I think that's it for me.. 20 and above never heard a peep (still don't). Quite satisfied!  ;D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 04, 2018, 07:16:18 PM
Simon, wow, what a story! And I think they are QRT now, so you really did it in the last minute! Congrats! You really deserved it!

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 04, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
Yes! I made the latest log updated on 17m CW  :D


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5MOA on July 04, 2018, 08:01:13 PM
And I think they are QRT now,

Not yet, still on 17/20m FT8 and 17/20m ssb

20m ssb op just said "final tear down in about 12 hours".


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 04, 2018, 08:17:21 PM
Wow!  I got this QSO in the nick of time! It was about 11am local time on Baker on the 4th..... thank heavens they are behind UTC and I'm ahead of UTC!

Quoting Wikipedia on the date in Baker Island:

The International Date Line remains on the 180° meridian until passing the equator. Two US-owned uninhabited atolls, Howland Island and Baker Island, just north of the equator in the central Pacific Ocean (and ships at sea between 172.5°W and 180°), have the latest time on Earth (UTC−12 hours).


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 04, 2018, 08:56:35 PM
And I think they are QRT now,

Not yet, still on 17/20m FT8 and 17/20m ssb

20m ssb op just said "final tear down in about 12 hours".

I grabbed a glass of water before going to bed and passed by the radio. I finally heard them for the first time on 20m! After about 2 or 3 mins of calling they were in the log for 20m FT8! I was having RF issues with my cheap CAT cable on this band so I was only running 30w. He's a little too far down in the mud to try for an SSB mode QSO.. but he's almost copyable. Some nice propagation to end out the dxpedition!

Edit: Just made out an SSB QSO for the new mode as well! (Had I tried copying them on 20 SSB first I would not have tried for the 20 FT8 QSO). First time I heard them at all on SSB. And I think I'm done with this one...  8) 


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WD4ELG on July 04, 2018, 11:02:22 PM
As time is running out, I decided to try them on 30 meters tonight before going to bed for at least one QSO, now that the pileups have died down a bit.  Got him on the first call.

Whoever was running the CW station at 0530 UTC, was ON FIRE.  He was sending about 30 wpm, and he copied my call at that speed without any issues, even with my puny signal and QRM.  I would like to buy that op a cold beverage some day if I meet him.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on July 05, 2018, 02:43:34 AM
They are EXTREMELY weak on 40m CW right now.
Hopefully they will come up a bit later.

Last chance here.

Too many idiots that do not understand UP


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB3LIX on July 05, 2018, 04:25:43 AM
It's 1120z here and they have faded off into the sunset on 40m.
Too bad, but I can only blame myself for missing this one.

Another one in the missed column.

Better luck next time I suppose.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0AP on July 05, 2018, 04:47:05 AM
Been listening on 7023 for almost two hours and the operator never gave his call sign, not once... only "UP NA NA". One can only guess if it's KH1/KH7Z or someone else. Very efficient operator though...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W5JON on July 05, 2018, 05:57:57 AM

From N1DG : KH1/KH7Z, is now QRT, all stations have been shut down, and they are on there way back to Fiji.





Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 05, 2018, 06:09:15 AM

From N1DG : KH1/KH7Z, is now QRT, all stations have been shut down, and they are on there way back to Fiji.





Thank you Dateline DX Association for this Dxpedition! Wishing the team safe travels home.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5INP on July 05, 2018, 08:14:04 AM
Thanks for the DXpedition and new one!  :D



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W5TD on July 05, 2018, 08:30:39 AM
Congratulations to eveyone who got this for an ATNO, new band, or new mode country!  I did work them on 15m CW Saturday night for a new CW prefix. Really glad they didn't use a 1 x 1 call. 

There was sure a difference in propagation between this DXpedition and the K1B DXpedition!  Of course K1B went at the peak of Cycle 23 and we are at the sunspot minimum now.  K1B was easy to hear and work, I only heard KH1/KH7Z well on 20 CW a couple of times, and the pileups there were huge.  They weren't very loud at all when I worked them on 15m, luckily the pileup wasn't very big.  I just tuned up 1 and threw out my call and BINGO!

Are there any updates on a KH3 DXpedition?  I could use them on 60/30/17 and RTTY/Digital.  Those of us who are older DXers remember that KH3 used to be fairly common when the bases there were manned.  There probably wasn't a whole lot else to do on Johnston.

73 John AF5CC


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 05, 2018, 08:33:14 AM
They weren't very loud at all when I worked them on 15m, luckily the pileup wasn't very big.  I just tuned up 1 and threw out my call and BINGO!

When I worked them a few nights ago on 15M CW, it was just minutes before my local midnight! I was very impressed.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W6OU on July 05, 2018, 08:37:43 AM
Club Log doesn't show their 6M contacts.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on July 05, 2018, 08:49:27 AM
Congratulations to eveyone who got this for an ATNO, new band, or new mode country!  I did work them on 15m CW Saturday night for a new CW prefix. Really glad they didn't use a 1 x 1 call. 

There was sure a difference in propagation between this DXpedition and the K1B DXpedition!  Of course K1B went at the peak of Cycle 23 and we are at the sunspot minimum now.  K1B was easy to hear and work, I only heard KH1/KH7Z well on 20 CW a couple of times, and the pileups there were huge.  They weren't very loud at all when I worked them on 15m, luckily the pileup wasn't very big.  I just tuned up 1 and threw out my call and BINGO!

Are there any updates on a KH3 DXpedition?  I could use them on 60/30/17 and RTTY/Digital.  Those of us who are older DXers remember that KH3 used to be fairly common when the bases there were manned.  There probably wasn't a whole lot else to do on Johnston.

73 John AF5CC
Thanks John. But I was not one of the fortunate ones, I never heard them well enough on 80M in the Big City.

That falls squarely on me!

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on July 05, 2018, 09:15:41 AM
Missed them on 80 and 60, unfortunately. First 80m miss in a very long time, in a direction I'm usually pretty good with. Never heard them on 12 this far north but I figured that was a long shot, at best. So 3 new bands, 2 new modes in total, with CW putting me back on the Honor Roll for that mode. I wish they could have gotten permission to do this at any other time of the year but you play the hand you're dealt, and we'll just have to live with it for the next 15 or 20-odd years. Hope I'm still around for a shot at the lowbands next time.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 05, 2018, 09:32:15 AM
3 Bands 3 modes.   20 phone and data, 17 cw and data, and 15 cw only.

I gotta say this, I got them on 15 cw on the first call.  This has never happened to me on any dxpedetion ever.  I guess there just wasn't anyone else calling on 15 at that particular point in time.   Hardest one to clinch was the 20 meter FT8.  It took many hours to get this one in the log.  I missed 30 meter FT8 on the first opening day, got recognized and called down to his freq in a couple of minutes, but he missed my report  and I never got the RR73.  Never was able to work them again on 30 cw or FT8.   The DQRM was terrible yesterday.  I don't know why people do this other than to say it is mental illness. How could anyone be so angry? 


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5UD on July 05, 2018, 09:47:39 AM
To hear you guys tell it. How in the world did I get 7 QSOs in 2 hours from the mobile ? Of course they miss logged 3 by dropping /M. However I thought they might so I made more QSOs.
I don't know if 80M was better early as I was on a trip to NOLA. However when I really looked for them on 80M. They just were not making it to USA.
I think 30M was my longest time calling. Got worried at about 20 minutes. Only heard a peep once on 12M.

Last night I found my QSL card stash. Already had KH1 on normal bands 80-10. VK9NL NO1Z A1A.
Well picked up mobile QSO and 17M, 30M.
USFWS dealt them a poor hand with the vertical only baloney.

Good job Baker Island team.

73 Tony N5UD


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KJ4Z on July 05, 2018, 10:15:14 AM
I have zero legitimate complaints from the West Coast.  The first day I had no joy getting in the log, but after my first break through on 20 FT8 about 20 hours in, it was like the dam broke.  I never spent more than 5 minutes on another slot, except 160, and it was all over in a couple of days.  I never heard them on 12 or 10, but I also never heard any DQRM, nor did I see any misbehavior on FT8.  Conditions were pretty abysmal, but I think that worked in my favor this time.

Thanks for putting this one on.  Bring on Ducie!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB8GAE on July 05, 2018, 10:21:39 AM
It was a lot of fun to work KH1/KH7Z with 100 watts and a wire for an ATNO.

This was a memorable dxpedition for me. It was amazing to see how well FT8 worked from a top ten most wanted entity. I was able to participate in all four dxpedition mode tests which was one of the more interesting things I have done in amateur radio. Dxpeditioner’s AA7A, N1DG and software developer K1JT were usually the foxes. I expected the stress of a major dxpedition would cause some significant problems to appear but those tests paid off with over 17,000 FT8 QSO’s . It was cool to be a small part of shaking the bugs out and I was very gratified to get in the log.

Thanks to the KH1/KH7Z team for putting in the time, money, and effort to activate Baker Island and the WSJTX software developers for advancing the art and science of Amateur Radio.

Your efforts are much appreciated!

Rich KB8GAE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 05, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
17 CW and 17 FT8 for me. Almost made it on 17 SSB as well. Man, 17m really was my lucky band even though they were louder on 20m then on 17m most of the time :D I have no low-band antenna anymore so I didn't even bother listening there.

Very great DXpedition though. Great job guys!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 05, 2018, 12:06:39 PM
It was a lot of fun to work KH1/KH7Z with 100 watts and a wire for an ATNO.

This was a memorable dxpedition for me. It was amazing to see how well FT8 worked from a top ten most wanted entity. I was able to participate in all four dxpedition mode tests which was one of the more interesting things I have done in amateur radio. Dxpeditioner’s AA7A, N1DG and software developer K1JT were usually the foxes. I expected the stress of a major dxpedition would cause some significant problems to appear but those tests paid off with over 17,000 FT8 QSO’s . It was cool to be a small part of shaking the bugs out and I was very gratified to get in the log.

Thanks to the KH1/KH7Z team for putting in the time, money, and effort to activate Baker Island and the WSJTX software developers for advancing the art and science of Amateur Radio.

Your efforts are much appreciated!

Rich KB8GAE

+1.  Thanks to all. An excellent effort.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: EI2GLB on July 05, 2018, 12:47:57 PM
In Frozen NW EU it was no picnic the predictions were poor 20m was our only shot, so I was glad to work them 2nd or third call on 20m CW, FT8 was easy enough on 20 and 17 and I got a 20m SSB Q to close out the three modes,

Only complaint was when we could hear them on 30m in our morning the wouldn't stop running JA or NA to give us a chance, but they did say it wasn't going to be a slot bingo and stuck to multiple stations on 20m to give everyone an ATNO,

Hopefully when it's activated again it will be better for the outlying bands but thanks to the team for making the best of the bad hand F&W delt them,

Trevor
EI2GLB


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5CM on July 05, 2018, 01:01:08 PM
I checked Club Log just now.  My QSO on 20M CW was an ATNO.  Band fills on 15 CW, 17 CW, and 30 CW.  The 20M QSO occurred on the third day of fighting the pileup.  QSOs on 17 and 30 took a while but nothing like the 20M.  I got 15 on my second call.  Their signal was fairly strong on 15 at the time. 

I heard them and tried them on 12M phone, but their signal wasn't stellar in my location.

I heard them and tried on 40 CW on a few separate occasions, but no joy.

All QSOs with 100W and my big horizontal loop ;D

Their CW ops did a fine job!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 05, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
Many thanks to them for an ATNO...  I needed them badly!  Anyone know when OQRS is going live?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on July 05, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
To hear you guys tell it. How in the world did I get 7 QSOs in 2 hours from the mobile ? Of course they miss logged 3 by dropping /M. However I thought they might so I made more QSOs.
I don't know if 80M was better early as I was on a trip to NOLA. However when I really looked for them on 80M. They just were not making it to USA.
I think 30M was my longest time calling. Got worried at about 20 minutes. Only heard a peep once on 12M.

Last night I found my QSL card stash. Already had KH1 on normal bands 80-10. VK9NL NO1Z A1A.
Well picked up mobile QSO and 17M, 30M.
USFWS dealt them a poor hand with the vertical only baloney.

Good job Baker Island team.

73 Tony N5UD
Simple Tony. Your the man.

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N2SR on July 05, 2018, 03:13:01 PM
Needed on 80 and 40.  Got 40 (#317), missed 80.  Oh well, can't get them all.   

Congrats to everyone who got them for a new one.

Thanks to the team that went there to make it possible.



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K8CMO on July 05, 2018, 04:39:09 PM
It was a great operation considering overall conditions.  I never did hear them well enough on 20, but I did work them on 30 and 40 CW.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: XW0LP on July 05, 2018, 05:58:15 PM
I worked them on 15 metres FT8, using 25 watts and by reversing my vertical wire Yagi antenna that hangs on a lanyard between 2 trees -
 swapping the director and reflector wires so that the main lobe was switched from EU to OC :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 06, 2018, 01:01:37 AM
I worked them on 15 metres FT8, using 25 watts and by reversing my vertical wire Yagi antenna that hangs on a lanyard between 2 trees -
 swapping the director and reflector wires so that the main lobe was switched from EU to OC :)

Simon, I'm sure they were as happy for their ATNO as you were for yours. By the way, they worked 146 DXCC entities (142 on 20m, by far more than on any other band. Long live 20m.  ;D )

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KW4CQ on July 06, 2018, 03:51:59 AM
Got them only on 20m CW but without a doubt the most difficult ATNO I ever made since starting to keep count seven years ago. Now at 312 Mixed.  DXCC Honor Role here I come.  Dipole restricted here in this HOA community.  Perseverance and dumb luck finally paid off.  My heartfelt thanks to the entire KH1 team for their efforts and personal sacrifices that made this memorable DXpedition such a huge success.  Well done everyone.

73, Bob...KW4CQ



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: XW0LP on July 06, 2018, 03:54:01 AM
Thanks Marvin.  My QSO hasn't shown up yet on Clublog, but I'm not worried - I have a screenshot of the complete QSO.

I was also lucky to get an SSB QSO with the St Brandon DXpedition.  I don't chase awards, but it's a nice challenge for me to see if I can get one QSO with each rare DXpedition. (FT8 from P5 would be easy!).

Now I need to check the diary to see when/where the next Dxpedition will be, and to figure out how/if I need to modify my antennas to improve my chances of a QSO.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB8GAE on July 06, 2018, 05:37:58 AM

I made a temporary 40m dipole in the hope of not missing The Baker Island DXpedition. I don't want to wait another 10+ years for the next one! After an hour of calling, I just worked them on 7.023. The pressure is off.  ;D

The reason I decided on a 40m dipole is that I never heard them well on any other band but 40m.

Marvin VE3VEE

I worked them on 15 metres FT8, using 25 watts and by reversing my vertical wire Yagi antenna that hangs on a lanyard between 2 trees -
 swapping the director and reflector wires so that the main lobe was switched from EU to OC :)

Marvin & Simon,

You both give meaning to the phrase "The Deserving".

Well Played!

73's  Rich  KB8GAE



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K5PS on July 06, 2018, 06:18:44 AM
Got them on 160, 60, 40, 30, and 20. Really was hoping for 80 but couldn't ever hear them.

My thanks to them for putting on this effort.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N0UN on July 06, 2018, 08:48:14 AM
An absolutely outstanding DXpedition.

Many Q's, many modes, lots and lots of happy Hams.

N0UN


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W4AMP on July 12, 2018, 02:07:16 PM
Got them on 15 and 20 the night of June 31. What surprised me was the Q on 15 at 0258Z. Was very surprised to hear them that late. The sigs were weak both ways but the band was very quiet.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N0UN on July 12, 2018, 03:00:03 PM
Got them on 15 and 20 the night of June 31. What surprised me was the Q on 15 at 0258Z. Was very surprised to hear them that late. The sigs were weak both ways but the band was very quiet.

June 31st, lol

N0UN


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0IZ on July 12, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Baker Is is a day behind (or is it ahead)!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N1EN on July 12, 2018, 10:22:14 PM
Baker Is is a day behind (or is it ahead)!

Baker's one of the few places in the world that is on UTC-12.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5UD on July 13, 2018, 05:29:41 AM
Got them on 15 and 20 the night of June 31. What surprised me was the Q on 15 at 0258Z. Was very surprised to hear them that late. The sigs were weak both ways but the band was very quiet.

June 31st, lol

N0UN
I had a QSO with Mars on June 31.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N5VYS on July 13, 2018, 06:41:45 AM
Got them on 15 and 20 the night of June 31. What surprised me was the Q on 15 at 0258Z. Was very surprised to hear them that late. The sigs were weak both ways but the band was very quiet.

June 31st, lol

N0UN
I had a QSO with Mars on June 31.
The best day of that month !

Obie N5VYS


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N3QE on July 13, 2018, 06:59:22 AM
Got them on 15 and 20 the night of June 31. What surprised me was the Q on 15 at 0258Z. Was very surprised to hear them that late. The sigs were weak both ways but the band was very quiet.

June 31st, lol

N0UN
I had a QSO with Mars on June 31.
The best day of that month !

The best Winter propagation by far is in the month of Smarch (the 13th month). Downside, of course, is the lousy Smarch weather.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/43aa44bae95405ccd126628267a47755/tenor.gif?itemid=7936311)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: VE3VEE on July 13, 2018, 08:53:19 AM

Quote
Got them on 15 and 20 the night of June 31.

They were the only 2 QSOs the KH1 team did that day!  ;D

Marvin VE3VEE


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 13, 2018, 10:58:50 AM
Anybody know when OQRS will be active?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on July 13, 2018, 01:13:30 PM
Anybody know when OQRS will be active?

According to this mornings email edition of the "Daily DX" :

 "We will upload a clean log and turn on OQRS 16 July at 00:00 UTC. All people submitting donations prior to
this time will receive an automatic LOTW upload without further action".

I am not affiliated with Bernie's "Daily DX" but I do find it to be a worthwhile subscription - here's a link:

http://www.dailydx.com/

Glad that they are doing LOTW for those that contributed but I'm still going to OQRS for the paper QSL...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 13, 2018, 01:34:30 PM
Anybody know when OQRS will be active?

According to this mornings email edition of the "Daily DX" :

 "We will upload a clean log and turn on OQRS 16 July at 00:00 UTC. All people submitting donations prior to
this time will receive an automatic LOTW upload without further action".

I am not affiliated with Bernie's "Daily DX" but I do find it to be a worthwhile subscription - here's a link:

http://www.dailydx.com/

Glad that they are doing LOTW for those that contributed but I'm still going to OQRS for the paper QSL...

Looking for that LOTW upload.  I don't care for paper at all.  But if I get the LOTW upload I will be a happy man. 


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on July 13, 2018, 02:21:53 PM

Looking for that LOTW upload.  I don't care for paper at all.  But if I get the LOTW upload I will be a happy man.  

Just checked LOTW in case they uploaded the donor QSO's early - ha!

I really enjoy getting the paper QSL's and sometimes the paper card arrives before the LOTW. This just happened with 3C0W - I got their card weeks ago but they won't do the LOTW upload for a few more months yet.


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 13, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Thanks sir!  Just did a donation early...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: N6ORB on July 15, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
I made a donation this morning and now my four qsos are confirmed in lotw. Glad I beat the deadline.

Dave, N6ORB


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 15, 2018, 08:51:56 PM
How odd, I have a friend that did a donation about two hours after mine, and I got my confirm, and he did not, and he worked them before me...


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: W2IRT on July 15, 2018, 10:18:18 PM
Made my donation about 4 hours before the deadline and everything's there in Logbook. #331 on CW confirmed to put me back on the Honor Roll for that mode, as well as #327 in Digi. Thanks guys!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 16, 2018, 03:54:34 AM
Nice! I see my confirms came in on Sunday. I donated a few weeks or months ago (can't remember). I'll have to see if OQRS is up yet (I collect paper QSL's for all ATNO's)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on July 16, 2018, 06:43:57 AM
KH1/KH7Z now uploaded to LOTW ... nice to have the confirmation (besides Clublog) but still going to OQRS for the paper card!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WH7DX on July 16, 2018, 08:53:33 PM
Dont know if this was posted yet -blog posted on DX World regarding Baker....

https://www.naia.com.fj/blog/dxpedition-baker-island/


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KB2FCV on July 16, 2018, 09:18:50 PM
Dont know if this was posted yet -blog posted on DX World regarding Baker....

https://www.naia.com.fj/blog/dxpedition-baker-island/

Very good read! Thank you for sharing the link  8)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: MM0NDX on July 24, 2018, 06:33:49 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di370hYXcAAcKgR.jpg)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: MM0NDX on July 27, 2018, 06:54:09 AM
The official front side  8)

(https://dx-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/KH1.-QSL-JB8-final.jpg)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 27, 2018, 07:18:35 AM
I hope I get a smaller card!  :)


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on July 27, 2018, 09:56:27 AM
Cool teaser video (only about 2.5min) of the actual operations on Baker Island has been posted!

https://vimeo.com/281933500


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: NK7Z on July 27, 2018, 10:36:02 AM
Any idea what the music credits are?


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: KM4SII on July 27, 2018, 10:53:48 AM
It doesn't look like he is doing a full length film this time around.  :( I really enjoy James' other DXpedition documentaries!



Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: K0UA on July 27, 2018, 11:03:36 AM
Cool teaser video (only about 2.5min) of the actual operations on Baker Island has been posted!

https://vimeo.com/281933500

Yes, it was!


Title: RE: KH1/KH7Z - Baker Island
Post by: WB9LUR on July 27, 2018, 01:10:57 PM
It doesn't look like he is doing a full length film this time around.  :( I really enjoy James' other DXpedition documentaries!



You may have seen all of these but they are new to me ... link to his video channel - full of DXpedition videos:

https://vimeo.com/121757784