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Title: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 16, 2018, 04:23:55 PM
Is it a good idea or a security risk for yourself and your family? 


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K7KBN on September 16, 2018, 04:29:19 PM
It's an FCC requirement to identify your radio transmissions; lots of hams around the world know me as "K7KBN" rather than any other means.  I have the license.  What's the problem?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 16, 2018, 05:10:38 PM
Is it a good idea or a security risk for yourself and your family?
Don't expect to get an answer that you want to hear on this site.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 16, 2018, 05:41:59 PM
Now I have heard everything a security risk by using your callsign on eham. Wow.
What security risk????
Unless you are a Secret Agent...   Keeping it real.. Nuff Said..
Everyone have a good day and as always be safe..   73..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K9MHZ on September 16, 2018, 07:16:42 PM
Dang, Chucky......that was pretty good!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: SWMAN on September 16, 2018, 07:27:21 PM
KTN,
 Good song, that brings back a lot of good memories. Good choice. I wish they still wrote good music like that.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 16, 2018, 07:37:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4
That was (is) a good tune. Never saw the video till now. They don't make them like that anymore.



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 16, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
Now I have heard everything a security risk by using your callsign on eham. Wow.
What security risk????
Unless you are a Secret Agent...   Keeping it real.. Nuff Said..

You are correct!

Unless you're in the witness protection program or some sort of operative, what are hiding from? Being anonymous does not make one a troll in my opinion. But it's a special kind of coward who chooses to be a troll while hiding behind an anonymous handle.



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N1UK on September 16, 2018, 08:32:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3jXVEYAnjc&pbjreload=10


73 Mark N1UK


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K0UA on September 16, 2018, 08:35:44 PM
Dang, Chucky......that was pretty good!

That was a good one.

Hello everyone my name is James.  Callsign K0UA.  Anyone can look up my name and address if they wish.  Send me an email, and I will give you my phone number if you want some help or just want to chat.  73  James K0UA. 


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KS2G on September 16, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Is it a good idea or a security risk for yourself and your family? 

Seriously... how do you think that identifying yourself by your call sign on this --or any other-- web site would be a security risk to you and/or your family?   ???


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KQ4MM on September 17, 2018, 06:00:28 AM
He's a pirate  ;) , no way he is a licensed ham... If he won't ID here, he won't ID on HF or a repeater either.. someone could copy the call sign and look him up...oh my...

From a famous song

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 17, 2018, 08:16:11 AM
KC8KTN.   KC8KTN.    KC8KTN.  KC8KTN

https://youtu.be/_WJ6FbcWYRU


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N8YX on September 17, 2018, 08:32:41 AM
Many years ago - during the height of the 14.313 Wars - an anonymous voice remarked that using your call sign on the frequency was akin to using your real name in a brothel.

Maybe with some it's similar.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: NE1U on September 17, 2018, 10:53:03 AM
It is possible to have a PO box as your FCC address


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: SOFAR on September 17, 2018, 11:18:06 AM
It is possible to have a PO box as your FCC address

Yes. Although with a full name, there's a few ways to find an address. Even easier if the person owns property.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KS2G on September 17, 2018, 11:20:54 AM
It is possible to have a PO box as your FCC address

You can also use the address of a business, a friend, a relative, a neighbor -- ANY address at which you can receive mail delivered by the USPS:

§97.23   Mailing address.

Each license grant must show the grantee's correct name and mailing address. The mailing address must be in an area where the amateur service is regulated by the FCC and where the grantee can receive mail delivery by the United States Postal Service. Revocation of the station license or suspension of the operator license may result when correspondence from the FCC is returned as undeliverable because the grantee failed to provide the correct mailing address.

 ;)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K8AXW on September 17, 2018, 11:35:56 AM
Just Google your callsign.  You might be surprised at the information you find!

Hey! I have callsign license plates on the front and rear of my vehicle.  Anyone that sees my plates can find me on with their computer.  You can't do that with the generic state issued plates.

I've had many "eyeball contacts" in a parking lot because of my plates.   ;D


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: NE1U on September 17, 2018, 12:49:38 PM
It is possible to have a PO box as your FCC address

Yes. Although with a full name, there's a few ways to find an address. Even easier if the person owns property.
Depends on the name. Steve Cooper ... good luck. Bruno Zambon ... easier! As well if the activity is in a computerized jurisdiction or not.

I just went thru this finding the men in my HS (located in the middle of nowhere) graduation class. Fortunately none of the women in my class moved away and all are in f/b. The men, well many are not on f/b, do not live local, have moved, don't answer the d@mn phone if they don't recognize(remember) the name, and few middle names are known, but at least I had a good idea what year they were born. As it turns out, people are much easier to locate when they have an obituary. :(


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 17, 2018, 03:22:09 PM
 What about a security risk from my C.B.handle..
The General or Captain or the Renegade.
Everybody have a Blessed day and be safe 73s
10-4.. Over and out.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: NE1U on September 17, 2018, 04:19:22 PM
...  C.B.handle..
This is a joke right? Chicken Band ... roger dodger & big 10-4 good buddy.

You are more than safe


My bad :-[


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 17, 2018, 04:21:38 PM
Well, other forums that I have been on do not require your personal information and everyone provides a name for themselves but that's it a name on the forum.  They don't give their name address and pictures of the family E-mail ETC...  Your callsign will.  Anyway please be safe.  


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 17, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
Well, other forums that I have been on do not require your personal information...  

I suppose that's one of the "occupational hazards" of fully participating in ham radio, IMO.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: VK2NZA on September 17, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
I guess this is a sign of the times!
Maybe a sign of the fear many feel in a changing society.
Maybe we rural dwellers are behind the times ...but
my handle is Ross, VK2NZA and a warm handshake.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K7KBN on September 17, 2018, 09:38:10 PM
I guess this is a sign of the times!
Maybe a sign of the fear many feel in a changing society.
Maybe we rural dwellers are behind the times ...but
my handle is Ross, VK2NZA and a warm handshake.

Hi Ross.  Consider yourself warmly and enthusiastically greeted.
(Works best when spoken in a robotic monotone).


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: VK2NZA on September 18, 2018, 12:14:20 AM
A pleasure to meet Pat, all the best
   regards Ross.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K4PIH on September 18, 2018, 06:12:51 AM
Troll!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K4JJL on September 18, 2018, 08:33:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sddTcgdm.jpg)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 18, 2018, 05:43:37 PM
Let me say this.  On other forums they don't question your knowledge based on your name.     


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K6CPO on September 18, 2018, 07:27:45 PM
Is it a good idea or a security risk for yourself and your family? 

Why don't you cast around and come up with a new topic instead of resurrecting the same old, tired discussions that were beaten to death 10 years ago?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 18, 2018, 07:54:58 PM
Well if I do will people stop beating me to death for not having a call?  Or are they going keep resurrecting the same old, tired old discussion of no callsign shut up?   


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: SWMAN on September 18, 2018, 08:14:07 PM
Jazzman,  just give your call sign, it's not gonna hurt anything. I keep SWMAN because it is sort of hard to change it on here. That was my username 15 years ago here and I just kept it. If someone asks my call I just give it, never had any problem doing that. 73. Jim. W5JJG.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 19, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
Its their sandbox and you have to play by their rules.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 19, 2018, 11:13:01 AM
I have something impotant to say

https://youtu.be/V6Uo1nNt6LU

Everyone please be safe. Enjoy everyday and listen and talk smartley. 73s


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N6MST on September 19, 2018, 01:07:06 PM
It's actually very easy to update your call on eham.

https://www.eham.net/user/updatenick


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 19, 2018, 03:30:13 PM
What if I don't have a callsign yet but want to join in on the forums?  What is wrong with that?   


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 19, 2018, 03:42:53 PM
SWMAN nobody takes you serious on this site unless you post your callsign as your user name, you must know that by now.  If you actually have a callsign update your user name to your actual call.  It's actually very easy to do as N6MST suggested.  Good luck.     


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: HFCRUSR on September 19, 2018, 03:59:15 PM
What if I don't have a callsign yet but want to join in on the forums?  What is wrong with that?   
I am not a ham and I've made that crystal-clear in most of my posts. But my full name is in there if you click on my handle, and that in/of itself is more info than I have given in other forums I am joined with. I've posted a bit here and hams have never seemed to have a problem with the fact that I don't have a callsign. Very helpful they've been to me and I am grateful. So I don't see what problem you'd have.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 19, 2018, 04:15:03 PM
Well I appreciate the advice HFCRUSR and I'm glad you have had good luck this is a great site.  I have tried to ask questions and give my thoughts  regarding ham radio here on eham.  It seems that when people don't agree with my thoughts the only thing they have to say or come back with is I don't have a callsign nothing I say matters.  Thanks again for the advice.   


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W4AMP on September 19, 2018, 08:06:36 PM
I put non ham id's on ignore immediately. I would not talk to someone on the street in a mask either. Unless it's Halloween. YMMV


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W3WN on September 20, 2018, 08:59:42 AM
What about a security risk from my C.B.handle..
The General or Captain or the Renegade.
Everybody have a Blessed day and be safe 73s
10-4.. Over and out.
And here I suspected your CB "Handle" was Cowthief.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on September 20, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Well if I do will people stop beating me to death for not having a call?  Or are they going keep resurrecting the same old, tired old discussion of no callsign shut up?   

Nobody is beating you to death.

If you don't have a license, why are you here?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 20, 2018, 10:42:14 AM
Well if I do will people stop beating me to death for not having a call?  Or are they going keep resurrecting the same old, tired old discussion of no callsign shut up?    

Nobody is beating you to death.


Interesting that many of the anonymous posters here also have a victim mentality...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2FCV on September 20, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
In the last decade or so of being on ham radio forums I have never heard of a single incident of someone using their callsign on a forum resulting in some sort of incident (security / burglary / threat carried out / etc). I see no issue with using your callsign in the forums. Most people don't even know what ham radio is.. most of the people that come to these forums are other hams or radio enthusiasts.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K4JJL on September 20, 2018, 11:52:09 AM
Well if I do will people stop beating me to death for not having a call?  Or are they going keep resurrecting the same old, tired old discussion of no callsign shut up?    

Nobody is beating you to death.


Interesting that many of the anonymous posters here also have a victim mentality...

90% of the Internet behaves this way.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 20, 2018, 05:02:04 PM
Some put non hams on ignore immediately, anonymous posters here also have a victim mentality and nobody is beating you to death, if you don't have a license why are your here. 

Thank you for the kind words.     


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: NO2A on September 20, 2018, 06:56:20 PM
In the last decade or so of being on ham radio forums I have never heard of a single incident of someone using their callsign on a forum resulting in some sort of incident (security / burglary / threat carried out / etc). I see no issue with using your callsign in the forums. Most people don't even know what ham radio is.. most of the people that come to these forums are other hams or radio enthusiasts.
100% agree.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 21, 2018, 04:12:36 PM
I agree as well and maybe eham should make it mandatory to have a valid callsign to join.  I like that idea.         


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K3GM on September 21, 2018, 08:01:49 PM
What if I don't have a callsign yet but want to join in on the forums?  What is wrong with that?   
No call would give you read privileges only.  A valid call would add write privilege.  Any question a prospective licensee would have, have already been asked countless times here.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 21, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
What a silly post/topic. Nuff said..
Everyone have a great Weekend and be safe. 73s


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WZ7U on September 21, 2018, 11:23:35 PM
What a silly post/topic. Nuff said..
Everyone have a great Weekend and be safe. 73s
What a silly post/reply. Nuff said..
Everyone have a great Weekend and be safe. 73s


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 22, 2018, 05:15:48 PM
I agree as well and maybe eham should make it mandatory to have a valid callsign to join.  I like that idea.       


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 22, 2018, 07:25:58 PM
https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,114478.0.html (https://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,114478.0.html)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 22, 2018, 08:08:28 PM
I take it serious some of you may think it's silly.  Please try to be nice. 


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 22, 2018, 08:15:45 PM
"Paranoia will destroy ya!"


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 22, 2018, 08:28:29 PM
That's all you got YXB.  Work on it. 


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W9FIB on September 22, 2018, 11:42:07 PM
"Paranoia will destroy ya!"

Yep it will, and good tune as well.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 23, 2018, 07:33:49 AM
That's all you got YXB.  Work on it.  
I've got plenty, but I go easy on the fragile ones.  ;)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on September 23, 2018, 12:23:45 PM
Ok thank you and for your sense of humor. 


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 24, 2018, 11:21:18 AM
I have been using my call sign at McDonalds and other fast food establishments for a while now to get discounts. Same as Veterans do and First Responders. I am also a Veteran. Have a Blessed Day and be Safe.73s..
I served U.S.Navy 1978 thru 1982 Operational Specialist  aka. RadarMan.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K7MEM on September 24, 2018, 04:36:03 PM
Paranoia comes in a variety of packages.

I know a ham that freely posts his call sign, name, and address. He even freely posts pictures of his place for a variety of equipment installations. These are pictures of his place from a variety of angles. But, try to look at his location with Google maps and you will find his house completely blurred out from every view. Even the street view only shows the two trees in the front yard. The rest is a blur. Go figure. Big Bother I guess.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K8AXW on September 24, 2018, 07:50:09 PM
JAZZMAN:

Quote
What if I don't have a callsign yet but want to join in on the forums?  What is wrong with that?   

Nothing. Welcome. However, (since I'm "crazy" (your quote)), May I ask what is your background in electronics (recall I said having a ham ticket doesn't mean you know it all) that makes you feel you can contribute to some of the problems that are posted on eHam?





Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC2QYM on September 25, 2018, 08:27:56 AM
I am actually offended that people are allowed to use CB type handles and still post here.  No courage. ...I blame the webmaster for allowing this practice to continue. If you are a licensed ham your name and address is public record via the FCC ULS.  If you use a 'handle' it just shows that you are paranoiac or are hiding your identity from the rest of us; this gives you no credibility.  It's easier for you to throw a bomb into the forum and hide behind a rock..... Juvenile.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC2QYM on September 25, 2018, 08:55:45 AM
I am actually offended that people are allowed to use CB type handles and still post here.  No courage. ...I blame the webmaster for allowing this practice to continue. If you are a licensed ham your name and address is public record via the FCC ULS.  If you use a 'handle' it just shows that you are paranoiac or are hiding your identity from the rest of us; this gives you no credibility.  It's easier for you to throw a bomb into the forum and hide behind a rock..... Juvenile.

And further, if you don't have a license you're not a ham so perhaps you should not have membership rights until you get your license. 

Jazzman...you've been posting all kinds of things on this forum for quite some time.  When are you going to man up and sit for the test. At least become a technician...it's not hard.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 25, 2018, 11:09:48 AM
Wow really. You that are offended are so PREDICTABLE. Why do you let it get to you. And as far as blamming webmasters or moderators leave them out of it. I like the moderators here they have common sence which is not common . I really do not care if you don't want to id yourself who cares. And do not rag on cb radio either. Keeping it real . Buff Said. Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s or 10-4...
https://youtu.be/Zdz8WlCqmCs


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K9MHZ on September 25, 2018, 11:18:27 AM
Here we go again.  Couldn’t resist, eh Captain?

Buff said.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WZ7U on September 25, 2018, 04:19:40 PM
http://photobucket.com/gallery/http://s926.photobucket.com/user/Bob_Bralove/media/KC8KTN%20The%20CB%20Captain/KC8KTNTheCaptainVideo2.flv.html

Funny, it works on my phone. How about you?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 25, 2018, 04:28:42 PM
Buff Said.

Now you're posting in the buff?  Cleanse my mind of that image!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N8YX on September 26, 2018, 10:26:07 AM
Buff Said.
Now you're posting in the buff?  Cleanse my mind of that image!
Pass the brain bleach...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K9MHZ on September 26, 2018, 11:22:40 AM
https://youtu.be/o8exxJhSEIk


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W4AMP on September 27, 2018, 04:30:55 PM
"Paranoia will destroy ya!"

I love that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRpAANsoG8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRpAANsoG8I)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K8AXW on September 27, 2018, 08:34:11 PM
Since JAZZMAN has been silent (perhaps just setting back enjoying the rumble he has started) can he be simply considered a TROLL?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on September 28, 2018, 04:16:30 PM
Speaking of using callsign when i go for Extra here in a couple of weeks I am keeping my Original KC8KTN. I will not and I am not worried about security breaches.Not on the Greatest Ham Website on the Intertnet. When i was an Operational Specialist in the Navy i carried an top secret clearance because in C.I.C i had to go into and out of A.I.C. room. Nuff Said..
Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s

P.S. Operational Specialist nomenclature N.T.D.S.
Naval Tactical Data Systems..


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8Y on September 28, 2018, 04:29:01 PM
I've been licensed over 40+ years:  1-yr=novice, .5-yr=tech, 30-yr=advanced AND about 18-yr=extra.
Never had any problem(s); super hobby/glad to be in it :)

Ken KC8Y


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on September 28, 2018, 05:19:19 PM
Since JAZZMAN has been silent (perhaps just setting back enjoying the rumble he has started) can he be simply considered a TROLL?
No, name calling isn't allowed here.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K3GM on September 28, 2018, 06:08:26 PM
Since JAZZMAN has been silent (perhaps just setting back enjoying the rumble he has started) can he be simply considered a TROLL?
I would not be a bit surprised to learn that JAZZMAN was put in timeout by the admins.  Shame too because he was working on the record for the most consecutive posts without any technical content; 89 posts...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 28, 2018, 06:12:56 PM
Since JAZZMAN has been silent (perhaps just setting back enjoying the rumble he has started) can he be simply considered a TROLL?
No, name calling isn't allowed here.

I won't call him a troll, but will say his posting activity resembled that of a troll.   ;)

Since JAZZMAN has been silent (perhaps just setting back enjoying the rumble he has started) can he be simply considered a TROLL?
I would not be a bit surprised to learn that JAZZMAN was put in timeout.  Shame too because he was working on the record for the most consecutive posts without any technical content; 89 posts...

I would not be surprised by that, and have no doubt that he'll be back.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N8QH on September 28, 2018, 06:18:16 PM
Now I have heard everything a security risk by using your callsign on eham. Wow.
What security risk????
Unless you are a Secret Agent...   Keeping it real.. Nuff Said..
Everyone have a good day and as always be safe..   73..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4

Well, if you say something someone doesn't like (almost impossible to avoid these days), anyone can look up your home address on FCC ULS using your call sign and show up at your door. I kinda think that's a security risk. In my estimation, it's a bigger risk to have custom license plates with my callsign. ("Humm. Nice car. Let's see where he parks it...") But everyone's risk profile is different.

Try it yourself: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp (http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp).


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K3GM on September 28, 2018, 06:27:34 PM
I would not be surprised by that, and have no doubt that he'll be back.
Kraus has been MIA as well...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K8AXW on September 28, 2018, 10:05:24 PM
Whatever....JAZZMAN just earned the "IGNORE" cell along KTN.



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WZ7U on September 28, 2018, 10:36:08 PM
I've always considered the ignore feature a sign of intellectual weakness but considering how some serial posters here never have anything to say that comes remotely close to sane, I'm starting to reconsider my position.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K8AXW on September 29, 2018, 08:20:37 AM
"Intellectual weakness" can be exhibited only when one argues with an idiot....or to try changing their minds.

I think it was Mark Twain who said something to the effect, "It isn't wise to argue with an idiot because a bystander wouldn't be able to tell the difference!"


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K0UA on September 29, 2018, 09:34:18 AM
Well, I don't have any of these "guys" on ignore, but it sure is nice when they don't show up here.  When you have guys like "jazzman" whose sole purpose in life is to stir up chit where there wasn't any before, you have to wonder what form of "disorder"  they are suffering from.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: SOFAR on September 29, 2018, 10:00:33 AM
Being in a large city, I learned long ago that I can pick those that I engage with. I'm not obligated to humor every nut job that's talking nonsense.

If someone approaches me and seems 'off', I can ignore them, or simply tell them no.

You can't change people. Let them be.
Let the naive ones humor them.

Ran across this awhile back.

'I think it's important to always keep in mind that, prior to the advent of internet discussion forums, there were many thousands and perhaps millions of mentally ill individuals in this country who were largely "out of sight and out of mind" to most Americans. these are people who might be on disability and spend virtually all of their time as shut-ins at home, so most people would never encounter them in work or social situations. for most of us, such people simply didn't exist. when these people would venture out into public, they would often have "episodes" and "outbursts" which would cause normal people to recoil, shun and ostracize them, thus causing them to further withdraw into their shut-in lives

but with the advent of internet discussion forums, these people are "in their element" here. they can now talk to literally millions of people from around the world, from the safety of their little hovels, without fear of any negative physical consequences they would expect to receive in the real world. hence they feel free to say whatever thought passes through their tortured minds, and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. this is the greatest development of their entire lives, and they often spend all day here, using multiple handles, to the exclusion of all other activities.'


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WZ7U on September 29, 2018, 11:06:37 AM
That explains what's happening perfectly. Why would ham forums be any different?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on September 29, 2018, 11:14:21 AM
That explains what's happening perfectly. Why would ham forums be any different?

I agree. SOFAR makes some good points.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W4AMP on September 29, 2018, 11:35:20 AM
I love this ham radio stuff.

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Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K9MHZ on September 29, 2018, 11:55:35 AM
LOL!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W9FIB on September 29, 2018, 07:07:10 PM
I love this ham radio stuff.

(http://barkpost-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dogepaints.jpg)

But it needs a happy little antenna.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KE0ZU on September 29, 2018, 08:54:35 PM
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...and show up at your door.   I kinda think that's a security risk...
For his sake, he better be nice, because I'm very accurate.  



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K8AXW on September 29, 2018, 09:00:22 PM
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and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.

Your quote was doing fine until the partial quote above.  Fortunately, there is something WE can do about it.

That's use the IGNORE option.  If nobody responds to these people their effect is minimized.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: NE1U on September 30, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
Maybe this a time to approach every politician from local to federal government ... and for every politician in the US.

RF does not know political boundaries so everyone from every state can be involved. The ham license is Federally issued.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K6CPO on October 02, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
Now I have heard everything a security risk by using your callsign on eham. Wow.
What security risk????
Unless you are a Secret Agent...   Keeping it real.. Nuff Said..
Everyone have a good day and as always be safe..   73..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4

Well, if you say something someone doesn't like (almost impossible to avoid these days), anyone can look up your home address on FCC ULS using your call sign and show up at your door. I kinda think that's a security risk. In my estimation, it's a bigger risk to have custom license plates with my callsign. ("Humm. Nice car. Let's see where he parks it...") But everyone's risk profile is different.

Try it yourself: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp (http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp).


I doubt the average person has any idea what a ham call sign even is.  If they see it on a license plate, they probably think it's just a typical "vanity"  license plate.  And the crooks are even dumber.  Case in point:  When my truck was broken into and my FT-7900R stolen, video surveillance showed the thieves didn't target my vehicle because of the license plate, but because it was the one they could get into.  They were checking all the vehicles in the parking lot.  And, when they took the radio, they took the body from under the seat but left the control head which was in plain sight in its mount on the dash.  Crooks are dumb...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N5INP on October 03, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
Anyone can look up any address they want to. Walk down the street, look side-to-side, and notice the addresses. People live in most of the houses. Go to the taxing authority and look up who pays the taxes.

There, now what have you accomplished? You found out that people live in houses and have names.  ::)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: NO2A on October 04, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Unless you're someone who regularly screws people on selling /buying equipment on here or evil pay, I wouldn't worry about it. Personally I'm more afraid of getting behind the wheel of my car, since so many are injured or die from driving.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K9MHZ on October 05, 2018, 04:54:15 AM
Speaking of using callsign when i go for Extra here in a couple of weeks I am keeping my Original KC8KTN. I will not and I am not worried about security breaches.Not on the Greatest Ham Website on the Intertnet. When i was an Operational Specialist in the Navy i carried an top secret clearance because in C.I.C i had to go into and out of A.I.C. room. Nuff Said..
Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s

P.S. Operational Specialist nomenclature N.T.D.S.
Naval Tactical Data Systems..

OK Chucky, help me out.  The abbreviations and Navy nomenclature is value added to this discussion, how?  If you want to manhood measure with previous security clearance levels etc, we can play that game, but on a ham radio website, OM? 

Buff Said..


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 07, 2018, 01:20:44 PM
OK Chucky, help me out.  The abbreviations and Navy nomenclature is value added to this discussion, how?  If you want to manhood measure with previous security clearance levels etc, we can play that game, but on a ham radio website, OM? 

Buff Said..

Yes that sounds correct.  Good luck. 


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 06, 2018, 07:47:37 AM
Jazzman
I have just one question. What are you trying to hide?
I find it interesting that in this thread you ask what if you didn't have a call but in other threads you comment about using CW on 80 meters. On 80 meters you are sending your callsign out on open airwaves that anyone anywhere can hear it.
Just a thought.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WZ7U on November 06, 2018, 02:28:13 PM
Jazzman
I have just one question. What are you trying to hide?
I find it interesting that in this thread you ask what if you didn't have a call but in other threads you comment about using CW on 80 meters. On 80 meters you are sending your callsign out on open airwaves that anyone anywhere can hear it.
Just a thought.
I bet all you get is crickets.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on November 06, 2018, 03:00:33 PM
Jazzman
I have just one question. What are you trying to hide?
I find it interesting that in this thread you ask what if you didn't have a call but in other threads you comment about using CW on 80 meters. On 80 meters you are sending your callsign out on open airwaves that anyone anywhere can hear it.
Just a thought.

Look man I was just asking a question do whatever you want to do.  This is just a discussion forum and we go back and forth with ideas.  A lot of people have really great ideas and thoughts.  Some agree some don't and that is OK. 

Good luck and God Bless to you and your family.   


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 06, 2018, 04:15:47 PM
Jazzman
I have just one question. What are you trying to hide?
I find it interesting that in this thread you ask what if you didn't have a call but in other threads you comment about using CW on 80 meters. On 80 meters you are sending your callsign out on open airwaves that anyone anywhere can hear it.
Just a thought.

Look man I was just asking a question do whatever you want to do.  This is just a discussion forum and we go back and forth with ideas.  A lot of people have really great ideas and thoughts.  Some agree some don't and that is OK. 

Good luck and God Bless to you and your family.   


I am still confused as you did not answer my question. You put your callsign out on open airwaves but you are more concerned about sharing it here on a radio discussion board? Do you even have a call? I would hope so since you have posted working CW on 80 meters.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 06, 2018, 04:21:03 PM
My call sign KC8KTN. My name is Chuck Rodgers. Keeping it real . Nuff said.
Everyone have A good day and be safe. 73s.

Jesus keep me focused. Give me patience.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on November 06, 2018, 04:41:44 PM
I am still confused as you did not answer my question. You put your callsign out on open airwaves but you are more concerned about sharing it here on a radio discussion board? Do you even have a call? I would hope so since you have posted working CW on 80 meters.


I think security is very important some get too wrapped up in it but I guess I need to lighten up a little as well. 

I'm still confused as you did not answer my question of why your signature says some people are like slinky's not really good for anything but still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

I think most would agree that is not normal. 

Good luck and God Bless.       


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 06, 2018, 04:46:06 PM
My call sign KC8KTN. My name is Chuck Rodgers. Keeping it real . Nuff said.
Everyone have A good day and be safe. 73s.

Jesus keep me focused. Give me patience.

Nice to make your acquaintance Jazzman


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 07, 2018, 07:32:30 AM
I am still confused as you did not answer my question. You put your callsign out on open airwaves but you are more concerned about sharing it here on a radio discussion board? Do you even have a call? I would hope so since you have posted working CW on 80 meters.


I think security is very important some get too wrapped up in it but I guess I need to lighten up a little as well. 

I'm still confused as you did not answer my question of why your signature says some people are like slinky's not really good for anything but still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

I think most would agree that is not normal. 

Good luck and God Bless.       


I answered your question in the thread in which you asked it. Maybe if you weren't bouncing between two usernames and actually paying attention where you were posting you would know this. But as far as I can tell some people have multiple accounts. Most disscussion boards that is against the rules Chuckles.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 07, 2018, 08:57:36 AM
My call sign KC8KTN. My name is Chuck Rodgers. Keeping it real . Nuff said.
Everyone have A good day and be safe. 73s.

Jesus keep me focused. Give me patience.

Nice to make your acquaintance Jazzman

Well it seems I had the wrong name. Sorry Chuck


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WI8P on November 07, 2018, 03:03:34 PM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 07, 2018, 04:55:55 PM
I could post it but I'd be in trouble ;D


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 08, 2018, 02:13:04 AM
KX4NB ring a bell.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WZ7U on November 08, 2018, 02:43:59 AM
Sarah Connor got ahold of him.

"You. Are. Terminated."


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N5INP on November 08, 2018, 04:52:57 AM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.

It happened to me.

Someone saw a thread of mine here went to my QRZ page and tracked down my email.

They sent me an email message.

They asked me for a schematic diagram to a 2 meter amp I had repaired and had a thread on here.

Beware - it could happen to YOU!  :o



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 08, 2018, 07:22:40 AM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.

It happened to me.

Someone saw a thread of mine here went to my QRZ page and tracked down my email.

They sent me an email message.

They asked me for a schematic diagram to a 2 meter amp I had repaired and had a thread on here.

Beware - it could happen to YOU!  :o





OHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N8YX on November 08, 2018, 08:27:35 AM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.
It happened to me.

Someone saw a thread of mine here went to my QRZ page and tracked down my email.

They sent me an email message.

They asked me for a schematic diagram to a 2 meter amp I had repaired and had a thread on here.

Beware - it could happen to YOU!  :o
I run a mailing list for Cubic amateur/commercial radio equipment and have compiled numerous modification/repair articles for other gear models. Occasionally, my inbox gets blowed up real good with requests for help...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W9FIB on November 08, 2018, 08:49:37 AM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.
It happened to me.

Someone saw a thread of mine here went to my QRZ page and tracked down my email.

They sent me an email message.

They asked me for a schematic diagram to a 2 meter amp I had repaired and had a thread on here.

Beware - it could happen to YOU!  :o

Its the end of the world as we know it!

A ham looking you up and asking for some information on something you wrote up in a ham radio forum...the horror! So criminal of an act!

Guess we better ban call signs and sharing information completely. Can't have any information let out. Someone may learn something! That would be terrible!

You do know you can hide your personal info on QRZ. Add and delete most things.

And then there is that pesky FCC database that is public. OMG what a nightmare!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K7MEM on November 08, 2018, 09:32:42 AM
I run a mailing list for Cubic amateur/commercial radio equipment and have compiled numerous modification/repair articles for other gear models. Occasionally, my inbox gets blowed up real good with requests for help...

While this is a little off the original topic, I use to manage the Unix network at the company I worked. We had long ago disabled "sendmail" on the Unix side and replaced it with a MS mail server. Sendmail was a security nightmare and the MS mail server worked fine. But on the Unix side, my email address was embedded in a lot of the Unix message logging. Unix would create a logging message for every little thing that went on. But it would put the messages in a Unix queue. Because "sendmail" was shut off, the messages never went out. They just built up.

Well, we forgot about this for a long time (10 or 15 years) when along came a new guy in the administration area that thought "sendmail" should be running. So, without asking, he enabled "sendmail". When I arrived in the morning, I opened up my email only to find 18,000 emails. And, I was not the only one. Some of the older, long term, admins had the same issue. This completely locked up the server. My email application was using POP3 so I just poked the button that said "get mail". The email application spent the next 10 hours downloading ancient email from the server.

We did go back and de-install anything that had to do with "sendmail", so this couldn't happen again.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: JAZZMAN on November 08, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.

That is a very good question Tom.  I certainly hope not but it's always good to be aware. 

Good luck and God Bless!!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 13, 2018, 08:41:36 AM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.


I would bet that they could not find one that had a negative impact on the call holder.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 13, 2018, 11:09:14 AM
My call sign is KC8KTN my name is Chuck Rodgers.
My C.B. handles are a few Captain/ The GENERAL./GOVERMENTCHEESE/The Renegade.I hope no I.D. threat has taken place. Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby . 73s


Jesus please help me with patience.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 13, 2018, 12:37:37 PM
Ive had hams and non hams track me down from my days at National Radio in the 60's when I wrote Service Bulletins. However Ive made no attempt to hide it.

Carl
Ham Since 1955
Extra Since 1968


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 13, 2018, 03:50:16 PM
Pat oneself on the back for ancient accomplishments...oh brother


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 13, 2018, 04:04:23 PM
Great Job Carl. Eisenhower was president when u got your ticket. Kudos..
Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s

Jesus help me to understand people better. And thanks for everything you have given me.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N5INP on November 13, 2018, 04:08:47 PM
I've seem 'em outside my house from time to time - these people who are tracking me down. I know they're hams because they drive by my house and look at my yard - they have antennas all over the vehicle.

I yelled at one once and said "Why are you looking at my house!"

He said "I found you posting on eHam and found your address! "

"The whole world knows you live here! BWAhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!"


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WD4CHP on November 14, 2018, 07:39:15 AM
I've seem 'em outside my house from time to time - these people who are tracking me down. I know they're hams because they drive by my house and look at my yard - they have antennas all over the vehicle.

I yelled at one once and said "Why are you looking at my house!"

He said "I found you posting on eHam and found your address! "

"The whole world knows you live here! BWAhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!"


I did not have that problem before when my address was a P.O. BOX.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WI8P on November 14, 2018, 08:46:35 AM
I've seem 'em outside my house from time to time - these people who are tracking me down. I know they're hams because they drive by my house and look at my yard - they have antennas all over the vehicle.

I yelled at one once and said "Why are you looking at my house!"

He said "I found you posting on eHam and found your address! "

"The whole world knows you live here! BWAhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!"

I supplement my income selling all the pins from my coax to the scrap yard.   ;D


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on November 14, 2018, 08:55:57 AM

Ive had hams and non hams track me down from my days at National Radio in the 60's when I wrote Service Bulletins. However Ive made no attempt to hide it.

Carl
Ham Since 1955
Extra Since 1968

Pat oneself on the back for ancient accomplishments...oh brother

Accomplishments being the key word.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 14, 2018, 09:23:25 AM
I use me call sign at a local restaurant for a discounted breakfast every Saturday.. Keeping it real. Nuff Said..
Everyone have a safety day  and please be safe .73ss

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 14, 2018, 09:45:35 AM
Believe it or not someon eright here on this forum used my call sign to find out and use my first name..... Oh the humanity.....


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 14, 2018, 10:47:06 AM

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Accomplishments being the key word.

That would indicate that person has none to show us...no surprise there ::) His call doesnt even show up on QRZ.com where he could create a brag page for us to enjoy.



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 14, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on November 14, 2018, 02:37:25 PM
Pat oneself on the back for ancient accomplishments...oh brother

Is it wrong for someone to be proud of what they have done? If so....why?

Of course one must consider just how "hard" those "old school" exams really were.....

I earned my Novice license in 1967, at age 13, in the summer between 7th and 8th grades.....middle school age. I earned the Technician, at the FCC office in Philadelphia in the spring of 1968, age 14, in summer between 8th and 9th grades.

In those days the same written test was used for Technician, General and Conditional.

Later that summer of 1968, I went back to the FCC office and passed the 13 wpm code and the Advanced written test. I had not studied for the Advanced at all, but The FCC Examiner "suggested" that I try it while I was there. So I did, and passed.....with only 8th grade math skills and zero formal training in radio, electronics or electricity.

Two years later (summer 1970) I went back for the Extra and passed on the first go. The only reason it took me two years was because, in those days, FCC required two years' experience before you could even try the Extra, and time as a Novice or Technician did not count. I was 16 and a few weeks later I started the 11th grade.

Nobody in my family was a ham. Nor were any of the neighbors. There was a local club but the only help I got from them was being introduced to K3NYT, who gave me the Novice exam. I learned radio by reading books and magazines, and teaching myself whatever math and science I needed. The ARRL License Manual and Handbook were my Elmers, as was "Understanding Amateur Radio", old copies of QST, the RCA Receiving Tube Manual, and a few others.

I did not find any of the written tests to be the least bit difficult. Yes, they were all multiple choice, but they were "secret" - Bash books would not appear until a decade after I had my Extra. The study questions in the License Manuals of the time were in essay format, not multiple choice, for years after the test format changed.

When I went for the Extra, I was the youngest person there, by far, and the FCC Examiner took me into the exam room first. And, either by accident or design, he started the test with the machine set for 13 wpm. Only when he saw that I could copy 13 wpm solid did he change the machine to 20 wpm and start the REAL test.

One more factor: In 1964, FCC began charging fees for taking the tests, except for Novice. The references I have found say the fee was $4 in 1968 and increased to $9 in 1970. That may not sound like much, but when you figure inflation, $4 in 1968 works out to $28.65 in 2017 dollars - and it was a LOT of money to a 14 year old like me, who did not get an "allowance". $9 in 1970 inflates to $57.76 in 2017 dollars.

I've got your test anxiety right here!

I did have one YUUUGE advantage, though: I was too dumb and isolated to know that the tests were "hard", so I just studied, learned, and passed them. Only years later did I find out that I wasn't supposed to do that - but by then it was too late.

I've been continuously licensed ever since that fateful day in October 1967 when the little envelope from FCC arrived. Done some interesting and fun stuff.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 14, 2018, 06:09:45 PM
I received the Novice at 14 and General at 15 so I must have been a slow learner. ::)  Or maybe it was that I knew nothing while at grade school since radio was never mentioned by the nuns and my family never even heard about ham radio.

It was ALL new back then as there was no Internet for support, no study manual with all the exact questions AND answers. Just a homebrew regen receiver and one hell of a mentor in Brother Patrick Dowd, W2GK, SK at 94 in 2014, at Bishop Loughlin HS in Brooklyn.

NO laid back VE location often at a hamfest either.

Then there was the specter of the NYC FCC office in a part of an old Federal Office Building on Washington St. Now converted to apartments.  At least the subway station was close and cleaner!

A Very cleaned up view now!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Office_Building_(New_York_City)

The Extra didnt come until 1968 when it meant something but a piece of paper as the General had full privileges. With Incentive Licensing taking effect I didnt want to lose ANY frequencies.

Carl




Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on November 14, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
Right.

I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

But you try and tell that to the young people of today - and they won't believe you.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 14, 2018, 09:50:17 PM
https://youtu.be/ZAAKPJEq1Ew


https://youtu.be/NKEyNGWwU2Q

Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 14, 2018, 10:21:12 PM

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Accomplishments being the key word.

That would indicate that person has none to show us...no surprise there ::) His call doesnt even show up on QRZ.com where he could create a brag page for us to enjoy.



4th Degree Blackbelt Goju Ryu
3rd Degree Blackbelt Tang Soo Do
Diploma Personal Trainer.. Graduate NPTI..NASM
Diploma Computer Programming
NDT Certification
DQR Sikorsky Aircraft
Past President and Current Vice President VARA
Past Vice President East Coast MARC
Past Vice Chairman Nash Engineering Employee's Association (2 Terms) and Contract Negotiating Committee Member

I can go on all night but I don't lack confidence as you seem to do. I know who I am.

Best of luck OM.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 14, 2018, 10:26:02 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 15, 2018, 06:45:02 AM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 15, 2018, 08:10:38 AM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 15, 2018, 09:23:36 AM
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You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

300 baud acoustic modem when I can see across the valley to the next hill.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 15, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on November 15, 2018, 12:10:53 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 15, 2018, 12:21:09 PM
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I can go on all night but I don't lack confidence as you seem to do. I know who I am.

I see very little there that pertains to eHam and even that is not impressive. Im glad it didnt take much to give you confidence.

If I listed all my USN and civilian certificates, awards, trophies, citations, etc, Id bury you but this is NOT the place.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 15, 2018, 02:15:30 PM
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I can go on all night but I don't lack confidence as you seem to do. I know who I am.

I see very little there that pertains to eHam and even that is not impressive. Im glad it didnt take much to give you confidence.

If I listed all my USN and civilian certificates, awards, trophies, citations, etc, Id bury you but this is NOT the place.
Yes, everything you do is greater than anything anyone else accomplished...maybe you would like to meet for coffee?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 15, 2018, 02:24:20 PM
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I can go on all night but I don't lack confidence as you seem to do. I know who I am.

If I listed all my USN and civilian certificates, awards, trophies, citations, etc, Id bury you but this is NOT the place.
COME SEE A MAN!!!!!!


CARL W HUETHER
169 JEREMY HILL RD
PELHAM, NH 03076
United States
 
QRZ.com Bio
I received my Novice in 1955, General and First Class Radiotelephone in 1956 at the FCC in NYC, and a real Extra taken in 1968 at the FCC in Boston;Â aced the CW and Written part in one pass.

Favorite modes are CW, AM, and SSB in that order. Have gear from 1.8 to 2304 mHz but not always operational as I love to change/experiment with antennas and equipment.

Ive confirmed with real QSL cards 10BDXCC (160-6M), 8BWAZ (need one more  for 160,  Past DXCC Honor Roll on CW, SSB, and Mixed but havent bothered with it since the ARRL allows operation thru remotes which takes all the challange away and is no better than "List" operations. Moving around the country and carrying all qualifiers with you is even more idiotic.Â

USN Vet 1959-63 active duty; left as ETR2 (radar speciality) but mostly worked on the communications gear. (Went into the Reserves and retired in 87.) Then worked at National Radio 1963 -69 as a Service Dept Tech, Service Manager, and Sr Engineering Aide.  Member of  NCL-2000, HRO-500, NCX-1000 Design Teams and worked on a very varied range of National products from the SW-3 to new product development which was cancelled when the parent, National Company got caught overcharging the military and was removed from future contract bidding.Â

I did repairs moonlighting on all brands at two of the Boston area ham radio distrubutors, Graham Radio and Herb Gordon until 1970 when I moved to Chicago 1970-73 for a NH company, Sanders Associates, Data Systems Division where I moved from AreaTech, to District, to Regional, and finally back to the home office for National and then World Wide Support. When SDS was sold to Harris Corp I had absolutely ZERO interest in moving to Dallas and transfered into the military division where my USNR continued TS Crypto clearance kept me busy doing things I still dont talk about. OTOH I got a great education in the use of ferrites for RFI, Common Mode cancellation and similar many years before it became common buzz words in the ham community and remains misunderstood by a majority of hams it seems.

In 1980Â I moved back to pure RF as a department manager in the broadband CATV based WangNet division of Wang Labs in Lowell MA. That connected high and low speed data via Wang designed and built RF modems that operated from 5-450 mHz over a pair of CATV coaxial cables using RG-59, RG-6, RG-11 as well as 75 Ohm hardline "backbones" from .412" to 1". diameter. For our own use TV and video conferencing was carried over our own satellite link to existing and potential customers around the world. We also had links to other facilities via line of sight (LOS) microwave paths. I spent a lot of time in airplanes and hotel rooms for a few years and all continents except the frozen one.

Wang fell apart in 85 after they thought they could take on IBM in the Small Office and PC field. I left then on early retirement because I had the time with Wang and age plus management positions to collect a decent amount of money.Â

Next step was to buy RadioKit, a mail order parts supplier, when the owners were well past retirement age. I added several new  small items for the homebrewer, dropped several poor sellers, and took on amplifiers and antenna tuners from Ameritron, B&W,  Dentron, and Ten Tec. Also sold Rohn towers, etc for about 12 years until their minimums froze out the little guys. Same with Eimac when Richardson froze most everyone else out.

With a sufficient income from Radiokit, amp and vintage vacuum tube (including auto radios) restorations to modern repair work, plus tower/antenna installations I went back to college full time and escaped that with excellent grades and two EE degrees plus several years of ME studies as I could fit it in. Prior I took several preperatory classes at night with the grades transferred so stretched over 12 years the load wasnt hard at all and there was plenty of time for family, fun and a second passion with hot rods, antiques and muscle cars which is another subject that the ME studies helped. Â

Since health insurance was lacking for myself, wife and 3 boys the degrees allowed me to enter the job market again in 1998 where I specialized in microwave, millimeter wave, and higher to ~ 300Â gHz design; the latter for BAE which was the latest owner of the old Sanders Associates. Reacquiring the TS Crypto clearance only took a week.

Retired in 2002 and took SS at 62 as I was very ready to have fun again.

More to come plus some photos.

Carl


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 15, 2018, 02:25:20 PM
Oh boy, more to come; can't wait!


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 15, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
YAWN...you could have just pointed to the QRZ url for my bio instead of consistently flaunting Eham rules as you did on QRZ. With any luck the same will happen here.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 15, 2018, 04:24:50 PM
I got my call signon my Resume. Keeping it Real. Nuff Said. Everyone Have a Blessed Day and be Safe.73s

Jesus please help the World.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 15, 2018, 04:33:47 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 15, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
YAWN...you could have just pointed to the QRZ url for my bio instead of consistently flaunting Eham rules as you did on QRZ. With any luck the same will happen here.
Double Yawn, you taunt and then use language  about  rules. Yes you would delight in getting others banned. This speaks of your character. I guess you don't want to meet for coffee. I am totally done with you. Hurl whatever insults make you feel better OM. I am no longer coming down to your level.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K1FBI on November 15, 2018, 07:41:14 PM
I hit the ignore button. That was easy! Bye, Bye, 1H...


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on November 16, 2018, 06:00:59 AM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away

We were so poor, we couldn't afford garlic. We'd use the label from a garlic powder container instead.

And in those days, people were ugly. I mean, ugly with a capital UGH. I had teachers that were so ugly they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. So ugly they made freight trains take dirt roads.

I say "teachers", but I was sent to parochial school, which meant nuns. IHM nuns, who were so ugly and so mean they made F. Lee Ermey and Chuck Norris cry for their mommies. They were so mean they'd hit you for what you did, hit you for what you didn't do, hit you for what you might be thinking of doing, hit you for what you might be thinking of not doing, and hit you for not giving them a reason to hit you.

Yes, we had it tough....



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: G3RZP on November 16, 2018, 06:24:56 AM
KC8KTN

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I got my call signon my Resume.

I always did that, not that I've done (or needed to do!) a resume since 1978. Being in the RF semiconductor business, I also had my c/s on my business cards: that opened an awful lot of otherwise closed doors with customers, especially in the US.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: DL8OV on November 16, 2018, 06:54:35 AM
Attitudes to ham radio callsigns varies depending on the business environment. Where I work we all have nameplates on the office doors and there are two active hams at the place. A request to put our callsigns on the nameplates was turned down flat.

However, walk past my (always open) office door and you can't fail to miss the large Icom IC-7851 poster on the wall. One set of Japanese visitors were all smiles.

Peter DL8OV


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 16, 2018, 07:38:02 AM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away

We were so poor, we couldn't afford garlic. We'd use the label from a garlic powder container instead.

And in those days, people were ugly. I mean, ugly with a capital UGH. I had teachers that were so ugly they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. So ugly they made freight trains take dirt roads.

I say "teachers", but I was sent to parochial school, which meant nuns. IHM nuns, who were so ugly and so mean they made F. Lee Ermey and Chuck Norris cry for their mommies. They were so mean they'd hit you for what you did, hit you for what you didn't do, hit you for what you might be thinking of doing, hit you for what you might be thinking of not doing, and hit you for not giving them a reason to hit you.

Yes, we had it tough....




we were so poor we had to steal the garlic from the farmer  next door. we couldn't afford a garlic powder container


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on November 16, 2018, 07:41:30 AM
This topic has lost its direction... I hear the key turning.
Everyone have a blessed day. Be Safe... 73s




Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 16, 2018, 01:23:58 PM
This topic has lost its direction... I hear the key turning.
Everyone have a blessed day. Be Safe... 73s




All I see is a little ham radio one upmanship..... just a little fun in the thread


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on November 16, 2018, 03:11:47 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away

We were so poor, we couldn't afford garlic. We'd use the label from a garlic powder container instead.

And in those days, people were ugly. I mean, ugly with a capital UGH. I had teachers that were so ugly they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. So ugly they made freight trains take dirt roads.

I say "teachers", but I was sent to parochial school, which meant nuns. IHM nuns, who were so ugly and so mean they made F. Lee Ermey and Chuck Norris cry for their mommies. They were so mean they'd hit you for what you did, hit you for what you didn't do, hit you for what you might be thinking of doing, hit you for what you might be thinking of not doing, and hit you for not giving them a reason to hit you.

Yes, we had it tough....




we were so poor we had to steal the garlic from the farmer  next door. we couldn't afford a garlic powder container

Luxury.

We were so poor we had to steal the empty garlic powder container.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 16, 2018, 03:52:10 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away

We were so poor, we couldn't afford garlic. We'd use the label from a garlic powder container instead.

And in those days, people were ugly. I mean, ugly with a capital UGH. I had teachers that were so ugly they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. So ugly they made freight trains take dirt roads.

I say "teachers", but I was sent to parochial school, which meant nuns. IHM nuns, who were so ugly and so mean they made F. Lee Ermey and Chuck Norris cry for their mommies. They were so mean they'd hit you for what you did, hit you for what you didn't do, hit you for what you might be thinking of doing, hit you for what you might be thinking of not doing, and hit you for not giving them a reason to hit you.

Yes, we had it tough....




we were so poor we had to steal the garlic from the farmer  next door. we couldn't afford a garlic powder container

Luxury.

We were so poor we had to steal the empty garlic powder container.

There wasn't anywhere to steal an empty garlic powder container within 200 miles


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N2EY on November 16, 2018, 04:38:49 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away

We were so poor, we couldn't afford garlic. We'd use the label from a garlic powder container instead.

And in those days, people were ugly. I mean, ugly with a capital UGH. I had teachers that were so ugly they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. So ugly they made freight trains take dirt roads.

I say "teachers", but I was sent to parochial school, which meant nuns. IHM nuns, who were so ugly and so mean they made F. Lee Ermey and Chuck Norris cry for their mommies. They were so mean they'd hit you for what you did, hit you for what you didn't do, hit you for what you might be thinking of doing, hit you for what you might be thinking of not doing, and hit you for not giving them a reason to hit you.

Yes, we had it tough....




we were so poor we had to steal the garlic from the farmer  next door. we couldn't afford a garlic powder container

Luxury.

We were so poor we had to steal the empty garlic powder container.

There wasn't anywhere to steal an empty garlic powder container within 200 miles

Well, we had it tough.

We had to go 300 miles just to find a container of any kind. 400 miles to find a garlic container. And we were so tired, we only brought back the label.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on November 16, 2018, 06:17:03 PM
I had to go to Little Italy in NYC and capture a locals breath


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 17, 2018, 12:18:20 PM
OH, I forgot....he was kicked off QRZ ;D
You are just finding this out now? Do you still get your news via Pony Express?

Homing pigeon
Back in the day when they walked in the snow to the FCC office; uphill both ways! ::)
That was 50 miles uphill both ways in the snow

In July! And we wore an onion on our belt! It was the style! And we LIKED it!

Dont forget the garlic around our necks to keep the evil spirits away

We were so poor, we couldn't afford garlic. We'd use the label from a garlic powder container instead.

And in those days, people were ugly. I mean, ugly with a capital UGH. I had teachers that were so ugly they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. So ugly they made freight trains take dirt roads.

I say "teachers", but I was sent to parochial school, which meant nuns. IHM nuns, who were so ugly and so mean they made F. Lee Ermey and Chuck Norris cry for their mommies. They were so mean they'd hit you for what you did, hit you for what you didn't do, hit you for what you might be thinking of doing, hit you for what you might be thinking of not doing, and hit you for not giving them a reason to hit you.

Yes, we had it tough....




we were so poor we had to steal the garlic from the farmer  next door. we couldn't afford a garlic powder container

Luxury.

We were so poor we had to steal the empty garlic powder container.

There wasn't anywhere to steal an empty garlic powder container within 200 miles

Well, we had it tough.

We had to go 300 miles just to find a container of any kind. 400 miles to find a garlic container. And we were so tired, we only brought back the label.

You win....lol


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: W4AMP on November 17, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
WOW
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Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 21, 2018, 04:34:39 AM
WOW
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Good Doggy


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on November 26, 2018, 05:08:06 AM
Well a comment on the original topic. There should be no issue with someone using their call as a user name on any ham radio discussion boards. Many actually require it. There are hundreds of other ways people can find out your address in minutes on the internet and quite a few sites that will sell personal information. The call sign is the least of anyones issues, Unless they do not have one. This can be to someone just getting started and not having one yet. There are other reasons but I will not delve into those here.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: RENTON481 on November 29, 2018, 05:51:13 PM
Well a comment on the original topic. There should be no issue with someone using their call as a user name on any ham radio discussion boards. Many actually require it. There are hundreds of other ways people can find out your address in minutes on the internet and quite a few sites that will sell personal information. The call sign is the least of anyones issues, Unless they do not have one. This can be to someone just getting started and not having one yet. There are other reasons but I will not delve into those here.

^^^^^^^ What he said.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WXSHAM on December 02, 2018, 12:03:57 PM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.

I don't think they were sure why in this article but they did call out the hostility in amateur radio forums

http://www.hidesertstar.com/news/article_fd5bba24-acb8-11e8-9fa6-d3419738127a.html

I believe there is an instance I've heard of a while back where someone was tracked down to their home and killed...

People don't post their real names and addresses in craiglist or most other websites, why is that?, so it's probably not a bad idea to consider where your data ends up.

(Amateur radio sites and facebook seem to be the notable exceptions. But I think things are changing now and people are realizing what people can do with just a name and address plus a little bit of information.  People have been publicly shamed on the internet (perhaps erroneously and needlessly) just with  a name, some have even lost their jobs due to it.)


I think we should look to be more inclusive  in this day and age an realize just like on most other websites folks don't use their real names/addresses and just be ok with that (which I think it is here but on the air its required).

Would it really hurt amateur radio if the license database only had first name, callsign, town and state? That's not an unreasonable thing to lobby the arrl/ FCC for is it?
Are folks opposed to that?

There are lots of communities/websites online that seem to work just fine with just a handle (even CB folks used to and probably still do just use made up handles)

When you get an auto license they don't post all of your info online?  When you get a passport they dont post all of your info online? When you even get a gun license they don't post all of your info online?  Amateur radio I think gets a little bit of special treatment on exposure more than other licenses.




Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on December 02, 2018, 12:57:32 PM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.

I don't think they were sure why in this article but they did call out the hostility in amateur radio forums

http://www.hidesertstar.com/news/article_fd5bba24-acb8-11e8-9fa6-d3419738127a.html

I believe there is an instance I've heard of a while back where someone was tracked down to their home and killed...

People don't post their real names and addresses in craiglist or most other websites, why is that?, so it's probably not a bad idea to consider where your data ends up.

(Amateur radio sites and facebook seem to be the notable exceptions. But I think things are changing now and people are realizing what people can do with just a name and address plus a little bit of information.  People have been publicly shamed on the internet (perhaps erroneously and needlessly) just with  a name, some have even lost their jobs due to it.)


I think we should look to be more inclusive  in this day and age an realize just like on most other websites folks don't use their real names/addresses and just be ok with that (which I think it is here but on the air its required).

Would it really hurt amateur radio if the license database only had first name, callsign, town and state? That's not an unreasonable thing to lobby the arrl/ FCC for is it?
Are folks opposed to that?

There are lots of communities/websites online that seem to work just fine with just a handle (even CB folks used to and probably still do just use made up handles)

When you get an auto license they don't post all of your info online?  When you get a passport they dont post all of your info online? When you even get a gun license they don't post all of your info online?  Amateur radio I think gets a little bit of special treatment on exposure more than other licenses.




When all of your info is still available anywhere on the world wide web what difference does it make. If someone want to track someone down they will with or without a callsign.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WXSHAM on December 02, 2018, 01:05:17 PM
I wonder if anyone can post a factual occurrence where a person was tracked down by their call sign and had anything happen.

I don't think they were sure why in this article but they did call out the hostility in amateur radio forums

http://www.hidesertstar.com/news/article_fd5bba24-acb8-11e8-9fa6-d3419738127a.html

I believe there is an instance I've heard of a while back where someone was tracked down to their home and killed...

People don't post their real names and addresses in craiglist or most other websites, why is that?, so it's probably not a bad idea to consider where your data ends up.

(Amateur radio sites and facebook seem to be the notable exceptions. But I think things are changing now and people are realizing what people can do with just a name and address plus a little bit of information.  People have been publicly shamed on the internet (perhaps erroneously and needlessly) just with  a name, some have even lost their jobs due to it.)


I think we should look to be more inclusive  in this day and age an realize just like on most other websites folks don't use their real names/addresses and just be ok with that (which I think it is here but on the air its required).

Would it really hurt amateur radio if the license database only had first name, callsign, town and state? That's not an unreasonable thing to lobby the arrl/ FCC for is it?
Are folks opposed to that?

There are lots of communities/websites online that seem to work just fine with just a handle (even CB folks used to and probably still do just use made up handles)

When you get an auto license they don't post all of your info online?  When you get a passport they dont post all of your info online? When you even get a gun license they don't post all of your info online?  Amateur radio I think gets a little bit of special treatment on exposure more than other licenses.




When all of your info is still available anywhere on the world wide web what difference does it make. If someone want to track someone down they will with or without a callsign.

This still goes back to why don't people post their full name and address on craigslist and most other sites.  To reduce risk. Maybe the percentage chance is very small but people still avoid posting that info.  Why do you lock your door at home?  Almost anyone can pick it or break it down. It's just a little extra safety.

Would folks really be against a proposal to only have first name, callsign and town/state in the FCC database?  Why argue against proposals that might help some folks feel a little safer.  Like locking the door of your house, not putting your name on an ad on craigslist, etc.

It won't harm anyone and might bring more folks into the hobby (do we think doing that would bring less folks?)




Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on December 02, 2018, 01:12:45 PM
I think we have enough tin foil hat wearers in the hobby already. Why help more?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on December 02, 2018, 01:27:28 PM
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This still goes back to why don't people post their full name and address on craigslist and most other sites.  To reduce risk. Maybe the percentage chance is very small but people still avoid posting that info.  Why do you lock your door at home?  Almost anyone can pick it or break it down. It's just a little extra safety.

Would folks really be against a proposal to only have first name, callsign and town/state in the FCC database?  Why argue against proposals that might help some folks feel a little safer.  Like locking the door of your house, not putting your name on an ad on craigslist, etc.

It won't harm anyone and might bring more folks into the hobby (do we think doing that would bring less folks?)

However ham ads require a displayed QSL or other method of showing a valid call over a certain $$ value.

The same for the person starting an Eham review....but any one can reply with any name.

Personally Im all for restricting ham growth, especially at the entry level, until it becomes a real technically based license again and not the fluff it has turned into. Attract those who will stay in the fold unlike the bloat now that has expired licenses with many never getting on the air.

For the ARRL it is ALL about the money as they charge advertisers based upon total FCC records currently about 27K (in 2017) of deadwood or became Silent Keys.  AND run an ever growing publishing empire of questionable worth.

Carl


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WXSHAM on December 02, 2018, 01:32:26 PM
I think we have enough tin foil hat wearers in the hobby already. Why help more?

I don't think we should be equating all the folks that use craigslist and most other sites that don't use their real name and address as tin foil hat wearers (probably 90+% of the population that don't use their real name and address on most other sites - other than facebook of course.)?

There are millions of sites that operate that way.  Does it really hurt us if folks want to propose first name, callsign, town/state for the license database? Or don't like that info published.  Its not like anyone can really do anything about it at the moment.  But I think it's not a bad thing for us as a community to be open to the ideas. What does it hurt?





Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WXSHAM on December 02, 2018, 01:38:17 PM
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This still goes back to why don't people post their full name and address on craigslist and most other sites.  To reduce risk. Maybe the percentage chance is very small but people still avoid posting that info.  Why do you lock your door at home?  Almost anyone can pick it or break it down. It's just a little extra safety.

Would folks really be against a proposal to only have first name, callsign and town/state in the FCC database?  Why argue against proposals that might help some folks feel a little safer.  Like locking the door of your house, not putting your name on an ad on craigslist, etc.

It won't harm anyone and might bring more folks into the hobby (do we think doing that would bring less folks?)

However ham ads require a displayed QSL or other method of showing a valid call over a certain $$ value.

The same for the person starting an Eham review....but any one can reply with any name.

Personally Im all for restricting ham growth, especially at the entry level, until it becomes a real technically based license again and not the fluff it has turned into. Attract those who will stay in the fold unlike the bloat now that has expired licenses with many never getting on the air.

For the ARRL it is ALL about the money as they charge advertisers based upon total FCC records currently about 27K (in 2017) of deadwood or became Silent Keys.  AND run an ever growing publishing empire of questionable worth.

Carl

I definitely appreciate that idea.  It sounds like you are saying there are many licensees not on the air already and you wouldn't mind if more were not on the air?  I can appreciate the technical experience part of it. I like that aspect of it.  I think the license levels kind of handle that to some extent.  The non technical folks won't end up on the extra parts of the bands.  I have an extra license but haven't got into building my own radio yet but I plan to.  I think this hobby might be more fun with more people on the air though, no ?  If there are too few people doing this I think the FCC may be more likely to pull bandwidth so kind of a catch 22?




Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on December 02, 2018, 01:56:57 PM
I think we have enough tin foil hat wearers in the hobby already. Why help more?

I don't think we should be equating all the folks that use craigslist and most other sites that don't use their real name and address as tin foil hat wearers (probably 90+% of the population that don't use their real name and address on most other sites - other than facebook of course.)?

There are millions of sites that operate that way.  Does it really hurt us if folks want to propose first name, callsign, town/state for the license database? Or don't like that info published.  Its not like anyone can really do anything about it at the moment.  But I think it's not a bad thing for us as a community to be open to the ideas. What does it hurt?





Craigslist I understand being anonymous. The buyers are also the same and unknown. There is a reason for open records in a government setting. But then what does it matter. You are apparently afraid of someone knowing who you are. I on the other hand could care less who knows who I am and where I am. Here on a Ham radio discussion board I have no problem using my call as this site is less public than the bands where anyone can listen in, get your call and look up your address. Remember you must ID on the air every 20 minutes so 3 times every hour you are making your call public to anyone who might be listening.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: WXSHAM on December 02, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
I think we have enough tin foil hat wearers in the hobby already. Why help more?

I don't think we should be equating all the folks that use craigslist and most other sites that don't use their real name and address as tin foil hat wearers (probably 90+% of the population that don't use their real name and address on most other sites - other than facebook of course.)?

There are millions of sites that operate that way.  Does it really hurt us if folks want to propose first name, callsign, town/state for the license database? Or don't like that info published.  Its not like anyone can really do anything about it at the moment.  But I think it's not a bad thing for us as a community to be open to the ideas. What does it hurt?





Craigslist I understand being anonymous. The buyers are also the same and unknown. There is a reason for open records in a government setting. But then what does it matter. You are apparently afraid of someone knowing who you are. I on the other hand could care less who knows who I am and where I am. Here on a Ham radio discussion board I have no problem using my call as this site is less public than the bands where anyone can listen in, get your call and look up your address. Remember you must ID on the air every 20 minutes so 3 times every hour you are making your call public to anyone who might be listening.


For government stuff - the examples of auto license, gun license, passport all don't post your info online right?  Not everything needs to be totally open.  It's not just craigslist that is anonymous but millions of other sites.   We get that, on air we have to identify.  Though usually that isn't recorded and posted online to live forever (not to say it couldn't be I guess).  On the internet our data probably is more likely to be archived stored and indexed somewhere than on air (at the moment I guess).
Is there anything wrong with wanting to try to change things for the future.  Just like a license plate on a car you can't just look up the persons address online.  Why not? (Road rage anyone?)
So they could limit access if they wanted.  Would it really hurt in the future if only name, callsign town/state were in the database?  (You could still file complaints through the FCC website if needed and they would know who it is.) 

Everything doesn't always need to stay the same does it?  (There can be both positive and negative change I guess).  I would think proposing a little less publicity isn't a bad thing.  But everyone has their opinion.  Some people are self conscious, others less so.  But if it doesn't hurt us or what we do I say go for it, why not :)  And if it gives folks just that tiny bit of extra security like locking their front door, why not.








Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2WIG on December 02, 2018, 02:17:32 PM



"....... must ID on the air every 20 minutes "


10 minutes.... ..   Somewhere in the CFR.

KLC


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on December 02, 2018, 03:30:55 PM



"....... must ID on the air every 20 minutes "


10 minutes.... ..   Somewhere in the CFR.

KLC

You are correct, It is 10 minutes. so 6 times an hour your put your call out on the public airwaves.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on December 02, 2018, 06:03:53 PM
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I definitely appreciate that idea.  It sounds like you are saying there are many licensees not on the air already and you wouldn't mind if more were not on the air?  I can appreciate the technical experience part of it. I like that aspect of it.  I think the license levels kind of handle that to some extent.  The non technical folks won't end up on the extra parts of the bands.  I have an extra license but haven't got into building my own radio yet but I plan to.  I think this hobby might be more fun with more people on the air though, no ?  If there are too few people doing this I think the FCC may be more likely to pull bandwidth so kind of a catch 22?

There are around 800K hams on the FCC rolls with 755K not expired, and 384K are Techs....do you really want them let loose on all HF/MF bands in a giveaway, especially with sunspots at a low and many dead bands??  You think CB was bad? At least they had decades to build up :o

I suggest a new 2019-20 version of Incentive Licensing be developed that rewards those passing a new series of tests that highlight old school technical knowledge....yes include the high school math and add modern technology and how to use it. Include operating skills and ethics.  If they cant pass after 2-3 tries, bye bye and good riddance. Include all currently licensed to retake the tests every 5 or 10 years as technology advances and the country needs high tech workers.

Im a product of the original Incentive Licensing and went from General to Extra including 20 wpm CW at the FCC in Boston on a hot 1968 August day. I was far from alone in that packed room and there was a waiting line. The Incentive for me was to NOT LOSE any frequency privileges. There was no whining in the room either as those there had a goal to shoot for and if some failed they came back better prepared.

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The number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 29, 2018 was:

Novice:                    8,409      (1.1%)
Technician            384,060     (50.9%)
Technician Plus                0      (0.0%)
General                175,838     (23.3%)
Advanced               39,720       (5.3%)
Extra                    147,202     (19.5%)

Total                    755,229

Carl


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: PITSWL on December 04, 2018, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: WXSHAM
Does it really hurt us if folks want to propose first name, callsign, town/state for the license database? Or don't like that info published.  Its not like anyone can really do anything about it at the moment.  But I think it's not a bad thing for us as a community to be open to the ideas. What does it hurt?

Circa 2018 there is no good reason that anything should be published in the FCC's database about any licensee in a non-remunerative service other than the license class, the expiration date and, perhaps, issue date.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: RENTON481 on December 04, 2018, 08:37:18 PM

Craigslist I understand being anonymous. The buyers are also the same and unknown. There is a reason for open records in a government setting. But then what does it matter. You are apparently afraid of someone knowing who you are. I on the other hand could care less who knows who I am and where I am. Here on a Ham radio discussion board I have no problem using my call as this site is less public than the bands where anyone can listen in, get your call and look up your address. Remember you must ID on the air every 20 minutes so 3 times every hour you are making your call public to anyone who might be listening.


To access ham radio bands one must have an SSB capable radio -- items which are increasingly difficult to obtain, as there aren't many stores carrying them anymore. The majority of people don't even know what a 'ham radio' is.

Then, if they actually obtain a SSB capable radio, they must have either a knowledge of CW or software to decipher any of a number of digital modes. Yeah, there are SSB QSO's. But you have to listen through static oftentimes to catch an ID. I've heard QSO's go on for half an hour or more without hearing IDs.

On the airwaves, if one wants to ID a ham, one has to seek them out.

This forum, however, is openly accessible by anyone with a computer or a smartphone, and it's searchable by search engines such as Bing and Google. Hence, it's much more public.

So I understand the hesitance of some concerning using callsigns on an open forum. I also understand why the guys who use them do so. Then you have the SWLs and other radio hobbyists who do not use callsigns here, because to use one would be a form of lying.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on December 05, 2018, 02:16:07 AM

Craigslist I understand being anonymous. The buyers are also the same and unknown. There is a reason for open records in a government setting. But then what does it matter. You are apparently afraid of someone knowing who you are. I on the other hand could care less who knows who I am and where I am. Here on a Ham radio discussion board I have no problem using my call as this site is less public than the bands where anyone can listen in, get your call and look up your address. Remember you must ID on the air every 20 minutes so 3 times every hour you are making your call public to anyone who might be listening.


To access ham radio bands one must have an SSB capable radio -- items which are increasingly difficult to obtain, as there aren't many stores carrying them anymore. The majority of people don't even know what a 'ham radio' is.

Then, if they actually obtain a SSB capable radio, they must have either a knowledge of CW or software to decipher any of a number of digital modes. Yeah, there are SSB QSO's. But you have to listen through static oftentimes to catch an ID. I've heard QSO's go on for half an hour or more without hearing IDs.

On the airwaves, if one wants to ID a ham, one has to seek them out.

This forum, however, is openly accessible by anyone with a computer or a smartphone, and it's searchable by search engines such as Bing and Google. Hence, it's much more public.

So I understand the hesitance of some concerning using callsigns on an open forum. I also understand why the guys who use them do so. Then you have the SWLs and other radio hobbyists who do not use callsigns here, because to use one would be a form of lying.

A shortwave receiver is all that is needed to listen and if you believe sideband is keeping your call sign private on the air, well you need to check into it a little further. Before getting my ham license I listened quite a bit.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: ND6M on December 05, 2018, 07:07:45 AM
To access ham radio bands one must have an SSB capable radio -- items which are increasingly difficult to obtain, as there aren't many stores carrying them anymore. The majority of people don't even know what a 'ham radio' is.

Then, if they actually obtain a SSB capable radio, they must have either a knowledge of CW or software to decipher any of a number of digital modes. Yeah, there are SSB QSO's. But you have to listen through static oftentimes to catch an ID. I've heard QSO's go on for half an hour or more without hearing IDs.

On the airwaves, if one wants to ID a ham, one has to seek them out.

This forum, however, is openly accessible by anyone with a computer or a smartphone, and it's searchable by search engines such as Bing and Google. Hence, it's much more public.

So I understand the hesitance of some concerning using callsigns on an open forum. I also understand why the guys who use them do so. Then you have the SWLs and other radio hobbyists who do not use callsigns here, because to use one would be a form of lying.

Chris, most of your post is just plain inaccurate.

also, this thread is about licensed people, not SWL's.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: RENTON481 on December 05, 2018, 08:29:13 PM
To access ham radio bands one must have an SSB capable radio -- items which are increasingly difficult to obtain, as there aren't many stores carrying them anymore. The majority of people don't even know what a 'ham radio' is.

Then, if they actually obtain a SSB capable radio, they must have either a knowledge of CW or software to decipher any of a number of digital modes. Yeah, there are SSB QSO's. But you have to listen through static oftentimes to catch an ID. I've heard QSO's go on for half an hour or more without hearing IDs.

On the airwaves, if one wants to ID a ham, one has to seek them out.

This forum, however, is openly accessible by anyone with a computer or a smartphone, and it's searchable by search engines such as Bing and Google. Hence, it's much more public.

So I understand the hesitance of some concerning using callsigns on an open forum. I also understand why the guys who use them do so. Then you have the SWLs and other radio hobbyists who do not use callsigns here, because to use one would be a form of lying.

Chris, most of your post is just plain inaccurate.

also, this thread is about licensed people, not SWL's.

This is a public, searchable site, available to anyone with a computer, whether they are into radio or not, or whether they even have a radio or not. If that statement is inaccurate to you, then so be it.

I know of radio hobbyists who found this site -- whether it is articles or reviews they found linked on Google or Bing or wherever -- and they then commented elsewhere about the articles, threads, and other features of the site. The radio hobbyists in question were not hams, nor were they members here.

A lot more people access this site than just hams.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: RENTON481 on December 05, 2018, 08:33:32 PM
A shortwave receiver is all that is needed to listen and if you believe sideband is keeping your call sign private on the air, well you need to check into it a little further. Before getting my ham license I listened quite a bit.

My point was what is more public, a forum that can be called up on any tablet, computer, or smartphone, or some QSO that you just might happen to hear if you have the right equipment and the propagation is just right.



Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K7MEM on December 06, 2018, 05:59:08 AM
This is a public, searchable site, available to anyone with a computer, whether they are into radio or not, or whether they even have a radio or not. If that statement is inaccurate to you, then so be it.

I have been on the internet since it was invented. So, yes, you are correct. Everyone knows that, or should know that. There is absolutely nothing to stop someone from reading this, or any other, discussion forum. There may be bits of information that require a account to access, but getting an account is just as easy. The only thing that stops me from getting an account on some sites, is when they ask for money or a credit card number. Then I'm gone.

I know of radio hobbyists who found this site -- whether it is articles or reviews they found linked on Google or Bing or wherever -- and they then commented elsewhere about the articles, threads, and other features of the site. The radio hobbyists in question were not hams, nor were they members here.

Yea, I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy... In fact, I am one of those guys. If someone wants to post on one site, and comment on a posting on another site, so what! I do it all the time. If I am responding to a query on this site, but found pertinent information on say QRZ, I will include a link. Anyone reading the posting can follow the link and read the other posting. I often read postings on odd discussion groups (audio, automotive, etc.), that I don't have an account on. No account only means that I can't post.

A lot more people access this site than just hams.

That's great. I hope they use it to increase their knowledge base.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KB2CRK on December 06, 2018, 06:44:23 AM
This is a public, searchable site, available to anyone with a computer, whether they are into radio or not, or whether they even have a radio or not. If that statement is inaccurate to you, then so be it.

I have been on the internet since it was invented. So, yes, you are correct. Everyone knows that, or should know that. There is absolutely nothing to stop someone from reading this, or any other, discussion forum. There may be bits of information that require a account to access, but getting an account is just as easy. The only thing that stops me from getting an account on some sites, is when they ask for money or a credit card number. Then I'm gone.

I know of radio hobbyists who found this site -- whether it is articles or reviews they found linked on Google or Bing or wherever -- and they then commented elsewhere about the articles, threads, and other features of the site. The radio hobbyists in question were not hams, nor were they members here.

Yea, I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy... In fact, I am one of those guys. If someone wants to post on one site, and comment on a posting on another site, so what! I do it all the time. If I am responding to a query on this site, but found pertinent information on say QRZ, I will include a link. Anyone reading the posting can follow the link and read the other posting. I often read postings on odd discussion groups (audio, automotive, etc.), that I don't have an account on. No account only means that I can't post.

A lot more people access this site than just hams.

That's great. I hope they use it to increase their knowledge base.


You make some good points. I just cant understand the paranoia of using your call sign. I use my call sign on some non ham. discussion boards as a user name because it is easy to remember. I am not stirring trouble anywhere so I have no reason to hide my identity. I wear my ham call proudly.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K0UA on December 06, 2018, 07:42:47 AM
This is a public, searchable site, available to anyone with a computer, whether they are into radio or not, or whether they even have a radio or not. If that statement is inaccurate to you, then so be it.

I have been on the internet since it was invented. So, yes, you are correct. Everyone knows that, or should know that. There is absolutely nothing to stop someone from reading this, or any other, discussion forum. There may be bits of information that require a account to access, but getting an account is just as easy. The only thing that stops me from getting an account on some sites, is when they ask for money or a credit card number. Then I'm gone.

I know of radio hobbyists who found this site -- whether it is articles or reviews they found linked on Google or Bing or wherever -- and they then commented elsewhere about the articles, threads, and other features of the site. The radio hobbyists in question were not hams, nor were they members here.

Yea, I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy... In fact, I am one of those guys. If someone wants to post on one site, and comment on a posting on another site, so what! I do it all the time. If I am responding to a query on this site, but found pertinent information on say QRZ, I will include a link. Anyone reading the posting can follow the link and read the other posting. I often read postings on odd discussion groups (audio, automotive, etc.), that I don't have an account on. No account only means that I can't post.

A lot more people access this site than just hams.

That's great. I hope they use it to increase their knowledge base.


You make some good points. I just cant understand the paranoia of using your call sign. I use my call sign on some non ham. discussion boards as a user name because it is easy to remember. I am not stirring trouble anywhere so I have no reason to hide my identity. I wear my ham call proudly.

That about sums it up.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on December 06, 2018, 12:35:15 PM
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This is a public, searchable site, available to anyone with a computer, whether they are into radio or not, or whether they even have a radio or not. If that statement is inaccurate to you, then so be it.

I have been on the internet since it was invented. So, yes, you are correct. Everyone knows that, or should know that. There is absolutely nothing to stop someone from reading this, or any other, discussion forum. There may be bits of information that require a account to access, but getting an account is just as easy. The only thing that stops me from getting an account on some sites, is when they ask for money or a credit card number. Then I'm gone.

Did Al Gore sign your permit?


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on December 06, 2018, 04:15:54 PM
My call sign is KC8KTN . Wow. Really. Keeping it Real. Nuff Said.. Anyone can look up anything and everything on Groogle. This is KC8KTN turning it back to butterfly net control.  Please be safe everyone. 73ss

Eienstine said it best Ohms Law conquers All.
Or Archimedes said give me a pallet Jack I can move the World.

Jesus is the Reason for the Season.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: K7MEM on December 07, 2018, 06:13:40 AM
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I have been on the internet since it was invented. So, yes, you are correct. Everyone knows that, or should know that. There is absolutely nothing to stop someone from reading this, or any other, discussion forum. There may be bits of information that require a account to access, but getting an account is just as easy. The only thing that stops me from getting an account on some sites, is when they ask for money or a credit card number. Then I'm gone.

Did Al Gore sign your permit?

You did, sort of, need a permit. It took a lot of management approvals, and money, to get connected. But, no, Al was not in the approval chain.

In the beginning, internet access was not everywhere, as it is today. Wi-Fi, as we know it, didn't exist. So you needed a hard wired cable connected to a internet capable computer center. Where I worked (Goodyear, AZ) our connection to the internet consisted of a 64 KBaud modem located somewhere in, California. I didn't know exactly where, and didn't care. There was a cable that ran from my place of work to that modem. The cable connected to only one computer (Sun 3/260). At the time, most of the  access was to News Groups. These were effectively the predecessors to the current discussion forums. And, everything was text. Images were seldom used due to the slow speed.

That was the only real access we had, until the World Wide Web was invented, some years later. Now, the WWW is the most common method of accessing data on the internet.

Even today, internet access is not everywhere. I now live in Ash Fork, in Northern Arizona (South of the Grand Canyon). But any on-line trackers list me as being in Phoenix. That's 150 miles south of me. It seems that there is a fiber cable that runs from Ash Fork, east to Flagstaff, and then south to Phoenix. It's a buried cable and seemed to be reliable.

About 5 or 6 years ago, some "dumb" copper thieves discovered the markers for the cable, out in the desert. So they went out there and dug it up, figuring they were going to make a killing on the copper market. But when they cut the cable they discovered it was a "Fiber Optic" cable, and of no use to them. It severed internet access to all of Northern Arizona for about a week. That's how long it took to repair the break.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KC8KTN on December 07, 2018, 07:37:44 AM
Again ohms law was used to resolve the issue. Keeping it real Nuff Said........  73SS


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: N0YXB on December 07, 2018, 07:57:29 AM
Again ohms law was used to resolve the issue. Keeping it real Nuff Said........  73SS

Don't forget Z=R(+/-)jX, thought you were going to study up on that.


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: KM1H on December 07, 2018, 09:44:05 AM
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You did, sort of, need a permit. It took a lot of management approvals, and money, to get connected. But, no, Al was not in the approval chain.

My initial on line experience was thru Arpanet in the late 70's via MITRE/MIT-Lincoln Labs when I worked in a very secure area of Sanders Associates.  Talk about SLOW but it worked.

Carl


Title: RE: USING YOUR CALLSIGN ON EHAM
Post by: SWMAN on December 07, 2018, 08:59:22 PM
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