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Title: These might be interesting
Post by: WB2KSP on September 20, 2018, 10:59:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_EeWSKJII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i0jKrXS__Q



Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: K6CPO on September 20, 2018, 12:58:50 PM
Old. old news...


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: WA7PRC on September 20, 2018, 03:50:29 PM
Old. old news...
Yep -- posted in 2006 & 2007. They've been linked to MANY times.
They're also TV "news" stories that may (or may not) tell the complete story. That's b'cuz they have a finite amount of time to devote to a story.
But, in all news stories, the adage holds, "If it bleeds, it leads."


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: N0YXB on September 20, 2018, 08:23:21 PM

They're also TV "news" stories that may (or may not) tell the complete story. That's b'cuz they have a finite amount of time to devote to a story.
But, in all news stories, the adage holds, "If it bleeds, it leads."

True indeed. The other day one of our local stations devoted less than a minute to a local issue of importance. After the commercial break they spent at least twice as much time on Jennie Garth putting her Hollywood mansion up for sale.The station is located in Saint Louis, so I'm pretty sure know the myriad details of her mansion are less important than learning about the local news stories. It's sad what the local TV news has become.


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: N8AUC on September 21, 2018, 02:45:42 PM
The important thing to know about "the news", is that their job is not to tell you the news at all.
It's to show you something outlandish enough to keep your eyes glued to their channel long enough
for you to see the advertising bits interspersed in the program.

It's about ratings, which translates to higher advertising rates, which yields increased revenue.

In fact, they've been showing outlandish things for so long, that people are being led to believe
that true oddities, genuine statistical outliers are now commonplace.

There isn't enough going on in the world that is important enough to keep 5 or 6 24-hour cable
TV news channels busy. Yet that's what we have. As a result, they manufacture stories to fill
their air time.


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: WB2KSP on September 22, 2018, 11:21:18 AM
The important thing to know about "the news", is that their job is not to tell you the news at all.
It's to show you something outlandish enough to keep your eyes glued to their channel long enough
for you to see the advertising bits interspersed in the program.

It's about ratings, which translates to higher advertising rates, which yields increased revenue.

In fact, they've been showing outlandish things for so long, that people are being led to believe
that true oddities, genuine statistical outliers are now commonplace.

There isn't enough going on in the world that is important enough to keep 5 or 6 24-hour cable
TV news channels busy. Yet that's what we have. As a result, they manufacture stories to fill
their air time.

You are referring to cable news about which I agree with you. It isn't as though there isn't enough going on inn the world to fill the day. It is a matter of budget. Bureaus around the world are being closed for budgetary reasons and so new information is either slow in coming or doesn't come at all.The pieces I fed were from local over the air channels and they are a totally different creature. Most decent local news broadcasters super serve their communities. The network news broadcasters are similar in that they only have 30 minutes, minus the spot load to provide the latest news, which today is actually a headline service. Our biggest source of disinformation in the name of news is cable news, most of which is composed of opinion porogramming.


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: ONAIR on September 22, 2018, 11:25:57 AM
They try to emphasize disagreement, challenges, discord and conflicts, because that can increase their viewership and ratings.


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: K5WLR on September 23, 2018, 11:51:42 AM
The biggest problem I see today in most news programs is that they have substituted opinions for facts. Everyone has an opinion, and they express them as if they were the "gospel truth."

When I was a young lad, many, many moons ago, I was taught the difference between fact and opinion. It's really simple! Here's an example:

     Fact: It is 68 degrees and cloudy today in Fayetteville, AR.

     Opinion: It's cold and gloomy in Fayetteville today.

As you can see, the first list expresses simple, enumerated factual information which is measurable. The second list is a matter of one person's opinion. Another person might find that it is warm and nice weather for him/her. It is not measurable, factual information.

If news reporting would return to presenting facts instead of opinions, the news would be much improved; and this is MY OPINION! You may not share this opinion, but I would hope that you would respect my opinion as I respect the opinions of those who disagree with me. 

Facts, however, are indisputable.... It IS currently 68 degrees and cloudy here today.  'nuff said!   :)

Will Rogers
K5WLR


Title: RE: These might be interesting
Post by: K0UA on September 24, 2018, 08:06:52 PM
The biggest problem I see today in most news programs is that they have substituted opinions for facts. Everyone has an opinion, and they express them as if they were the "gospel truth."

When I was a young lad, many, many moons ago, I was taught the difference between fact and opinion. It's really simple! Here's an example:

     Fact: It is 68 degrees and cloudy today in Fayetteville, AR.

     Opinion: It's cold and gloomy in Fayetteville today.

As you can see, the first list expresses simple, enumerated factual information which is measurable. The second list is a matter of one person's opinion. Another person might find that it is warm and nice weather for him/her. It is not measurable, factual information.

If news reporting would return to presenting facts instead of opinions, the news would be much improved; and this is MY OPINION! You may not share this opinion, but I would hope that you would respect my opinion as I respect the opinions of those who disagree with me. 

Facts, however, are indisputable.... It IS currently 68 degrees and cloudy here today.  'nuff said!   :)

Will Rogers
K5WLR

Behind you 100% on that brother!