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Title: Clear the air
Post by: KC8KTN on October 09, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
This is KC8KTN / Chuck I have been off the site for 7 days due to I wanted to take a break and also of taking care of my Mother who is in the hospital with alzheimer's and other issues.   I check the site from day to day and I see this Jazzman character is being thought of as me . I do not know Jazzman and I am not responsible for his  postings. So for all the few who have had a kangaroo court session and found me guilty shame on you. I just wanted to say i am innocent and again do not know or responsible for Jazzman topics or replys... Everyone have a Great Day and be Safe. 73s..

P.S. I also Talked/ Emailed  to Mike N2MG whom is Awesome and knows and can Verify I am not this Jazzman Character Everyone thanks for your time and Understanding..


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: W6EM on October 10, 2018, 05:26:26 AM
What you describe is **WHY** I don't like eham's policy of allowing aliases.  If we can't post without identifying who we are, then we don't deserve to post.  And, it should be a licensed amateur-only site.
I try to practice what I preach by ignoring posts from those hiding behind aliases.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: N8YX on October 10, 2018, 06:01:35 AM
Non-licensed individuals should be allowed to participate if they actually have something constructive to contribute to discussions, moreso if they're working on obtaining a license.

Trolls and troublemakers should immediately be squelched, especially if they're using a proxy service to mask their identity.

It isn't hard to figure this out.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: G3RZP on October 10, 2018, 08:11:37 AM
We have one of the 'hide behind a stupid name' on a reflector I use - which requires the use of Christian name, surname and callsign in the message header. He is, I am led to believe, about to be banned for not following the rules for use.....on the basis of 'our reflector, our rules.'


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: ND6M on October 10, 2018, 08:36:03 AM
I tend to agree, the usage of alias's does tend to generate troll like posts.

New forum members actually using the forum to assist in earning their license should be in a "monitored" category, of course, that will increase the Monitors workload.

OTOH, We all are using private property here and can only recommend the forum rules/procedures.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: K3GM on October 10, 2018, 08:55:28 AM
No call, no posting privileges; read only access.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: KC8KTN on October 10, 2018, 09:18:40 AM
This is kc8ktn I am at Hospital now . The site people can see I am using the hospitals network. Everyone have a Blessed day and be safe. 73s


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: K0UA on October 10, 2018, 09:29:57 AM
KC8KTN  Chuck, love him or hate him. He at least is a stand up guy and uses his callsign. I don't much care for the anonymous posters either. I am not 100 percent sure what to do about them, but I feel this  causes the disruption in the manner of "hi I am FISHHEADBOB and you can never know who I am or where I am and I can shoot my mouth off and say whatever I please with no consequences."

I think this anonymity leads to a lot of things said that should not be said, and a lot of bad feelings.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: N0YXB on October 10, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
KC8KTN  Chuck, love him or hate him. He at least is a stand up guy and uses his callsign. I don't much care for the anonymous posters either. I am not 100 percent sure what to do about them, but I feel this  causes the disruption in the manner of "hi I am FISHHEADBOB and you can never know who I am or where I am and I can shoot my mouth off and say whatever I please with no consequences."

I think this anonymity leads to a lot of things said that should not be said, and a lot of bad feelings.

I agree on all counts. Although I don't always like his posts, KTN does stand behind his posts and I respect that. And allowing anonymous sign-ons does seem to enable the few who who enjoy being anonymous (cowardly) trolls

I check the site from day to day and I see this Jazzman character is being thought of as me.

My comments were in jest, and I apologize if I caused you any offense. 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: K8AXW on October 10, 2018, 10:32:03 AM
I have KTN and Jazzman on the IGNORE list....because I don't care for KTN's posts even though I do give him credit for using his call.

JAZZMAN in on the IGNORE list because he contributes NOTHING while hiding behind a "handle."  Actually, he isn't a ham but as I told him before, a ham ticket doesn't prove you know it all.  JAZZMAN seems to use eHam for a chat channel.

Bottom line...my vote....no call; no post.  Of course I understand my "vote" will go to the same place as my vote against Obama.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: N5INP on October 10, 2018, 03:59:28 PM
I think this anonymity leads to a lot of things said that should not be said, and a lot of bad feelings.

I'd like to know the thoughts of the site owners on this topic. The one reason that I can see for allowing non-licensed hams on is to let someone who isn't a ham ask questions about the hobby. As for SWL listeners (who aren't hams) there are other forums on the internets for them to use.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: K0UA on October 10, 2018, 04:56:24 PM
I think this anonymity leads to a lot of things said that should not be said, and a lot of bad feelings.

I'd like to know the thoughts of the site owners on this topic. The one reason that I can see for allowing non-licensed hams on is to let someone who isn't a ham ask questions about the hobby. As for SWL listeners (who aren't hams) there are other forums on the internets for them to use.

How about this for an idea:  The only reservation I have to a complete ban on anonymity is that there are folks waiting on their license and SWL's that may become hams some day that want to ask legitimate questions.  Maybe one way to combat the anonymity is to force those that use a handle instead of a callsign to post in the clear their name and address when you do a lookup on them.  Every one of us that use a callsign are by default posting our real name and our real address which can be looked up in lots of places including the FCC database which is open to the public.

So you could be "FISHHEADBOB" on eham, but when I click on fishheadbob, I expect to see a name and an address or you are in read only mode. Maybe this would help.  We enforce this by letting fishheadbob be read only, with no posting until he receives a postcard from the moderator with the code that changes his status from read only to ability to post.  This insures the name and address he gave is real. Or at least makes it a lot more likely.  for the JIZMEN of the world, that don't want to post any details, they can go play elsewhere. We don't need them or their disruptions.  The price of the postcard and the time to fill it out will be paid for by fishheadbob when he buys a subscription to eham.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 10, 2018, 05:32:12 PM
This is KC8KTN / Chuck I have been off the site for 7 days due to I wanted to take a break and also of taking care of my Mother who is in the hospital with alzheimer's and other issues.   I check the site from day to day and I see this Jazzman character is being thought of as me . I do not know Jazzman and I am not responsible for his  postings. So for all the few who have had a kangaroo court session and found me guilty shame on you. I just wanted to say i am innocent and again do not know or responsible for Jazzman topics or replys... Everyone have a Great Day and be Safe. 73s..

P.S. I also Talked/ Emailed  to Mike N2MG whom is Awesome and knows and can Verify I am not this Jazzman Character Everyone thanks for your time and Understanding..

Chuck I am very sorry to hear about your Mom.  I have had similar health issues with my family as well so I do know what you are going through.  This is just a ham radio forum don't let it get you upset. 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: KC8KTN on October 10, 2018, 11:54:39 PM
Wow it seems funny that the two hams holding Kangaroo court over me (WZ7U and K9MHZ)  saying I was Jazzman are not saying much hmm they allways seem to know so much about me. I also noticed they got a lot of topics locked out something they accused me of doing  WOW i guess it is different.  The w.t.t.c club strikes again. Nuff Said. Keeping it real. Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s
Eric Eric and Bradly Bradly shame shame.



Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: K4JJL on October 11, 2018, 05:26:36 AM
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Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: N9AOP on October 11, 2018, 08:10:50 AM
Hope your mother gets better.  Mine is 103 and still gets around.  Must be good genetics.  I really don't care if you are JAZZMAN or not.  Most users of this venue are legitimate.  There a few that do not seem to have a life and continue to try to be an annoyance.
Art


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: KC8KTN on October 11, 2018, 09:02:39 AM
Thanks.
There are only a few around here that say one thing and do another. I just did not like be accused of something that is False.  I notice they are being quite which in reality is quite nice. Again thanks. Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: WZ7U on October 11, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
Wow it seems funny that the two hams holding Kangaroo court over me (WZ7U and K9MHZ)  saying I was Jazzman are not saying much hmm they allways seem to know so much about me. I also noticed they got a lot of topics locked out something they accused me of doing  WOW i guess it is different.  The w.t.t.c club strikes again. Nuff Said. Keeping it real. Everyone please be safe and Enjoy the hobby. 73s
Eric Eric and Bradly Bradly shame shame.



First off, best wishes for your mom Charles. She should be your first and foremost responsibility. Good work OM.

But....
I haven't gotten nearly the number of threads locked as you have OM. For that honor I bow to your superior ability and talent.

Get over yourself http://photobucket.com/gallery/http://s926.photobucket.com/user/Bob_Bralove/media/KC8KTN%20The%20CB%20Captain/KC8KTNTheCaptainVideo2.flv.html

I never said you were Jazzman. I said Jazzman was you. Get your facts straight before you go shooting off that D-104 of yours, good buddy. https://imgur.com/a/KEauFbB


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 11, 2018, 04:10:56 PM


My comments were in jest, and I apologize if I caused you any offense. 



That is a start good for you.   


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 11, 2018, 04:48:19 PM
I have KTN and Jazzman on the IGNORE list....because I don't care for KTN's posts even though I do give him credit for using his call.

JAZZMAN in on the IGNORE list because he contributes NOTHING while hiding behind a "handle."  Actually, he isn't a ham but as I told him before, a ham ticket doesn't prove you know it all.  JAZZMAN seems to use eHam for a chat channel.

Bottom line...my vote....no call; no post.  Of course I understand my "vote" will go to the same place as my vote against Obama.

So you have KTN on IGNORE because you don't care for his posts and me because I contribute NOTHING.  But you replied to this thread.  Sounds like you use eham for a chat channel.  I could be wrong.  My comments were in jest, and I apologize if I caused you any offense.     


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 11, 2018, 05:00:23 PM


First off, best wishes for your mom Charles. She should be your first and foremost responsibility. Good work OM.

Quote

That is a good start, next time stop typing and be nice. 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 11, 2018, 05:09:50 PM
Life is short enjoy it and laugh a little.  Chuck did not do anything wrong yet you accuse him of being me.  Please lighten up just a little and take a breath.  My comments are in jest and I apologize if I caused you any offense.  Please try to be nice.   


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 11, 2018, 06:19:33 PM
I tend to agree, the usage of alias's does tend to generate troll like posts.

New forum members actually using the forum to assist in earning their license should be in a "monitored" category, of course, that will increase the Monitors workload.

OTOH, We all are using private property here and can only recommend the forum rules/procedures.

I overlooked this ND6M.  I don't agree that alias's tend to generate troll like posts.  Or maybe they do we could debate that all day long.  The main thing is to be nice.  My comments are in jest and I apologize if I caused you any offense. 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: WZ7U on October 11, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
That's a lot of ignored posts!


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 12, 2018, 05:07:10 PM
For this and every day, thank you Jesus


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 12, 2018, 05:36:38 PM

How about this for an idea:  The only reservation I have to a complete ban on anonymity is that there are folks waiting on their license and SWL's that may become hams some day that want to ask legitimate questions.  Maybe one way to combat the anonymity is to force those that use a handle instead of a callsign to post in the clear their name and address when you do a lookup on them.  Every one of us that use a callsign are by default posting our real name and our real address which can be looked up in lots of places including the FCC database which is open to the public.

So you could be "FISHHEADBOB" on eham, but when I click on fishheadbob, I expect to see a name and an address or you are in read only mode. Maybe this would help.  We enforce this by letting fishheadbob be read only, with no posting until he receives a postcard from the moderator with the code that changes his status from read only to ability to post.  This insures the name and address he gave is real. Or at least makes it a lot more likely.  for the JIZMEN of the world, that don't want to post any details, they can go play elsewhere. We don't need them or their disruptions.  The price of the postcard and the time to fill it out will be paid for by fishheadbob when he buys a subscription to eham.


How about this for an idea.  Be nice!!  You call me JIZMEN.  That hurts.  For all of you that post your call on here and then proceed to act insane or combative please be silent your logic falls on deaf ears.     


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 12, 2018, 06:18:12 PM
What you describe is **WHY** I don't like eham's policy of allowing aliases.  If we can't post without identifying who we are, then we don't deserve to post.  And, it should be a licensed amateur-only site.
I try to practice what I preach by ignoring posts from those hiding behind aliases.


I agree with you 100 percent and I would also add a small monthly fee like 13 dollars a month to be a member to post or your read only.  Now we have a ham only site with verified paid members ONLY that can post things.  Rules would be strict and this insane middle school fighting would end.  How about that for an idea?   


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: KC8KTN on October 13, 2018, 01:12:35 AM
Jazzman thanks for your kind words about my Mom.
Watch the watchers.
Some spew rules and statements but then they do not follow them. Iam not speaking of Moderators here. Eham mods are the Best bar none.
Everyone have a Blessed day and be safe. 73s


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: ND6M on October 13, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
I tend to agree, the usage of alias's does tend to generate troll like posts.

New forum members actually using the forum to assist in earning their license should be in a "monitored" category, of course, that will increase the Monitors workload.

OTOH, We all are using private property here and can only recommend the forum rules/procedures.

I overlooked this ND6M.  I don't agree that alias's tend to generate troll like posts.  Or maybe they do we could debate that all day long.  The main thing is to be nice.  My comments are in jest and I apologize if I caused you any offense. 

Is that why you have 8 of the last 10 posts in this thread?


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 12:36:20 PM
Jazzman thanks for your kind words about my Mom.
Watch the watchers.
Some spew rules and statements but then they do not follow them. Iam not speaking of Moderators here. Eham mods are the Best bar none.
Everyone have a Blessed day and be safe. 73s

You are welcome my thoughts and Prayers go out to you and your family. 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: WZ7U on October 13, 2018, 12:37:52 PM
That was nice. But was it the right kind of nice...  ;D


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 03:16:19 PM
I tend to agree, the usage of alias's does tend to generate troll like posts.

New forum members actually using the forum to assist in earning their license should be in a "monitored" category, of course, that will increase the Monitors workload.

OTOH, We all are using private property here and can only recommend the forum rules/procedures.

Well here is another idea.  New forum members actually using the forum to assist in earning their license should be "monitored" until they "earn" their license is OK I agree.  People who have already "earned" their license, post with a callsign and generate troll like posts should be banned from the site immediately.

OTOH, We all are using private property here and can only recommend the forum rules/procedures.     
 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
That was nice. But was it the right kind of nice...  ;D

You spend hours and hours on this site putting people down and then you ask me "was it the right kind of nice"

Plus you have that Jesus thing at the end of every one of your posts.  Read it BEFORE YOU POST!!!   

Please try being nice.  BEFORE YOU POST!! 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
For this and every day, thank you Jesus


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: N0YXB on October 13, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
... your logic falls on deaf ears.     

No argument there.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 06:10:13 PM
How about this for an idea.  Be nice!!  You call me JIZMEN.  That hurts.  For all of you that post your call on here and then proceed to act insane or combative please be silent your logic falls on deaf ears.     


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 07:14:19 PM
That was nice. But was it the right kind of nice...  ;D

You know what is sad you do this stuff on purpose here on E-Ham and admit you can't contain yourself on your QRZ page.  Good gracious get some help.  What you say here, on the air or in person makes a difference in peoples lives.  It really DOES!!!!  Please from now on try to make POSITIVE DIFFERENCE.  PLEASE.  My Prayers are with you and your family.   
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WZ7U QRZ page



If you're here because of some post on the forums, my apologies beforehand. The forums aren't ham radio and they sometimes bring out the worst in all of us. Especially vociferous is this allergy I have to stubbornness, ignorance, stupidity and bigotry. Sometimes I can't contain myself, know what I mean?


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
A little more of Whiskey zanzibar  seven uniform QRZ page.  God be with you my Brother.  Damn!!

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  The political section has been removed for the benefit of our DX brothers and sisters. IMO, they don't understand any of it or care what we have for problems in our political system; so in the interest of multinational harmony almost all previous reference to politics in the United States has been deleted. What passes for governance in the USA has become embarrassing to me so I refuse to give it any more rent in my head, so to speak.

 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: JAZZMAN on October 13, 2018, 08:11:21 PM
K9MHZ ISN'T MUCH BETTER.  You guys have to PLEASE lighten up a little and be nice.  God Bless you all and again please try to be nice!! 


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: SOFAR on October 13, 2018, 11:28:30 PM
How about this for an idea.  Be nice!!  You call me JIZMEN.  That hurts.  For all of you that post your call on here and then proceed to act insane or combative please be silent your logic falls on deaf ears.    

You are JIZZMAN, soiling every thread you post in.

A barely coherent shut-in, begging for attention.


Title: RE: Clear the air
Post by: WZ7U on October 14, 2018, 01:19:07 AM
Quote from:  link=topic=122319.msg1094514#msg1094514 date=1539498510
How about this for an idea.  Be nice!!  You call me JIZMEN.  That hurts.  For all of you that post your call on here and then proceed to act insane or combative please be silent your logic falls on deaf ears.     

You are JIZZMAN, soiling every thread you post in.

A barely coherent shut-in, begging for attention.

 :o

Does "clear the air" in the thread title mean something like opening the window and letting the poo smell out? Or lighting a match in the loo for a similar effect? 

This thread has gone off the rails. IB4TL  ::)