eHam Forums => Misc => Topic started by: AB7KT on September 27, 2011, 05:12:05 AM

Title: World Radio Magazine
Post by: AB7KT on September 27, 2011, 05:12:05 AM
I have always enjoyed World Radio Magazine. And, when it was available as a print magazine, I had a "lifetime" subscription. I forget what it cost, but it seemed like a good deal at the time. I figured that I might live another 40 years or so, why not ? So, I paid a couple hundred dollars or something like that (I have no idea what I paid, now) to receive the magazine for the rest of my life. 

Well, as you may or may not know, several years ago, World Radio Magazine was bought out by CQ Magazine, and they stopped producing a monthly print magazine. Instead, they put out a monthly magazine available free to anyone; online. It was the same magazine, and I enjoyed reading it on-line although I felt that I got screwed as a "lifetime" subscriber. Yeah, I could still read the magazine every month, but so could anyone else who never paid a dime for the privilage.

So this morning I find an email in my in-box from World Radio. Starting with the next issue (November Issue), they are going to start charging you to subscribe to read the magazine's ONLINE version. And, as a loyal reader of the magazine, they are offering me a smoking deal for a subscription.

 Generous of them.

Am I going to pay them another dime: no chance

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: W8COP on September 27, 2011, 05:30:16 AM
Same story here. I got the same email. I am going to respond with an email of my own.Most folks I have encountered in ham radio have been very honest,but I feel like the CQ group is nothing but a bunch of
thieves. I took the CQ magazine subscription when WR went to e-addition,and you can be sure I WON'T
pay them a dime when the subscription is up.

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: KR4BD on September 27, 2011, 07:08:00 AM

I, too, was a World Radio "Lifer".  When they stopped printing it, I think CQ gave me a couple of years extension on my CQ subscription.

There is NO WAY I'd ever give them another dime!  When CQ acquired World Radio, they should have honored the existing lifetime subscriptions.

Tom, KR4BD
Lexington, KY

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: KA5N on September 27, 2011, 08:22:38 AM
Whatever you think about Wayne Green W2NSD, when he was the editor or CQ Magazine it
was terrific.  Issues chock full of good articles.  I recently bought a single copy of CQ and it
was about as interesting as the local green sheet.

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: AC4RD on September 27, 2011, 09:10:45 AM
I'm sorry to hear about the change to WR Online; I've enjoyed reading it, but it isn't so great that I'm likely to shell out any large amount of money for access to the online version.   I wonder if they'll tell us who "Kurt N. Sterba" is before the site changes?

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: G3RZP on September 27, 2011, 02:48:46 PM
I gave up on CQ. Just too damn full of stuff I wasn't interested in, Strangely, that was why I gave up on 73 in the early 1970s - I just could not manage the orgasms that they were having over 2m repeaters.

The main reason I have for being an ARRL member is the financial support they give to getting people to represent amateur radio at the ITU in Geneva - where it really matters, and ARRL are the only national radio society who do. If I wasn't a life member of RSGB by virtue of having been President, I'm not sure I would even be a member.

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: N2EY on September 27, 2011, 03:25:18 PM
Perhaps you could point out to the WorldRadio folks that you're already a Lifetime Subscriber, so the online mag should be free for you already.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: KI4SDY on September 27, 2011, 05:39:09 PM
You have to ask a lot of questions when spending money. When someone offers you a "lifetime subscription" you have to ask, what or who's lifetime? The lifetime of the magazine? The lifetime of the owners of the magazine? Your lifetime?

Selling lifetime subscriptions to old hams is not much of a gamble. However, buying a lifetime subscription to a magazine that is not from a not for profit organization that is well funded and can be considered perpetual (like the NRA) is a bad gamble.  :'(

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: AB7KT on September 28, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
It would be a gamble.
If the magazine ceased to exist, that would be one thing. I gambled, enjoyed it while it lasted, and all good things eventually come to an end.
However, that is not what is happening here. The magazine IS still being published, albeit in a different format.

I would speculate that the number of lifetime subscribers to WorldRadio magazine isn't many (although I have nothing to base this on except a guess). I think it would have been a show of goodwill by the publisher to honor those memberships.

NRA Life Member

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: KR4BD on September 28, 2011, 05:10:59 PM
Yes....World Radio IS still being published although UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP (CQ magazine) and via a new electronic format replacing the printed format.  Usually when a company acquires another company they ASSUME all the ASSETS and LIABILITIES of the company being acquired.  But when CQ acquired WR, they (CQ) unilaterally decided we life-time subscribers would be compensated (paid off) with up to five years (I think this is correct) of CQ depending on how many years we had been taking advantage of our life-time WR deal. 

I would think that the "lifers" should continue to have free access to World Radio.

A World Radio "Lifer"

P.S.  I, too, wonder how many of us actually exist.

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: N5RWJ on September 30, 2011, 02:17:05 PM
What will it cost?

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: KI4SDY on September 30, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
As much as the traffic will bear!  ;D

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: KR4BD on September 30, 2011, 06:09:57 PM
A poster on another site says World Radio Online will be $20 per year....

That's a kick to those of us who paid lotsa bucks to be lifetime subscribers to the printed version of WR several years ago.

Tom, KR4BD

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: AB7KT on September 30, 2011, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from the email I received:

"WorldRadio Online will be available for a variety of online platforms, including those for tablets and mobile devices. As a result of this upgrade and additional enhancements we're making to this product, we must return to paid single copy and multi-issue subscriptions for the magazine. You will be able to purchase single issues online for $2.99 each or a one-year subscription for $19.95.  The online edition will be produced by Zinio, probably the best-known e-magazine host today. As a subscriber, as soon as an issue goes "live" you will receive notification that a copy has been placed in your Zinio online library - ready to view, print and/or download. Your issues will remain in your Zinio online library indefinitely! "

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: N3AWS on October 01, 2011, 07:53:35 AM
I took out a life subscription immediately before the deal to sell WR to CQ went public.  They took my money and converted it into a CQ subscription.  I had previously subscribed to CQ and CQ VHF and dropped them for various reasons.   Since we were promised continued access to the online WR and I was stationed in Korea at the time (which made the online subscription handier for me), I really did not care too much. 

Now, I feel cheated.  If they were so close to going through with the deal, I think it would have been more fair to simply contact me and ask if I wanted to go through with the subscription.

Yes, they offered their various substitutions for CQ, etc. but now to go back on offering WR free on line...

Maybe they should just refund all of us lifers whatever we paid.


P.S.:  I have been an ARRL life member for years and always felt ARRL treated it's members a lot better than CQ did it's subscribers.

Title: RE: World Radio Magazine
Post by: AB7KT on October 02, 2011, 09:14:09 AM
It has been a fairly long time since the print version of World Radio was converted to the online version, so my memory of what exactly happened isn't real clear. But, I don't remember getting any significant credit toward CQ magazine. I sort of vagely remember getting a year or something, but if I got anything at all, it wasn't a substantial credit towards CQ magazine.

I currently subscribe to CQ magazine, and do so on a paid annual basis. I am not going to renew but that really doesn't have much to do with this World Radio situation. The World Radio thing is a factor, but it's a small factor: probably just enough to push me in the direction of not renewing my CQ subscription. CQ Magazine just doesn't have a whole lot that interests me. They seem to have three big themes: ham radio is dying and we should pull out all the stops to get as many new hams as possible regardless of what that takes, getting kids involved in ham radio, and contesting. I don't believe that ham radio is dying and personally feel that we have already lowered the standards to become licensed way too far already. I have almost no interest in contesting. The kid thing, is great and I have no problem with it and applaud them for their efforts in the direction. But, when it is all said and done, there isn't much content that really interests me in CQ. World Radio had more stuff that directly reflected my interests in ham radio. With that in mind, I was considering dropping my subscription. Then this World Radio thing came along and made my mind up for me.