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Title: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: KC9RCG on November 13, 2011, 05:58:55 AM
For the most part, most all bands, courtesy is in force. But, 14.313 must be the place where people have to let their dark side show. I think it is good for that to stay in one spot and not multiples.

But, the other problem is karol madera ve7kfm goes to other places like 14.272....now you got 2 goofed up channels.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: KE4YOG on November 13, 2011, 01:36:42 PM
And our neighbors to the north will not do anything about Carol. Most of these people need to be run out of ham radio. I know that it will not happen but the US hams involved with this the FCC could make very expensive to carry on.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: K2OWK on November 13, 2011, 09:06:20 PM
I heard for the first time the goings on on 14.313. When I first heard it I had to double check my frequency and band, because I thought I was on 11 meters. This sounded just like the CB band. There was a fellow calling another fellow a crook and cheat, and he was calling him a girlie man, whatever that means. It was intersting that both these stations gave there call signs. There was another station playing music, but the two arguing stations blanked the music out when they transmitted. I listened to these stations and thought the conversation was a staged put on. It was a lot of fun to listen to. There was no cursing as you hear on the CB band, and the stations calls were given at the required intervals. I guess there has to be a place for X CB rs on the ham bands where they can continue with there crazy behavior. As long as they stay on 14.313 and do not start to bother other frequencies. I actually enjoy listening to that craziness once in a while, it gives me a break from the serious stuff. I have not heard any Canadian stations at my QTH on 20 meters. I must be lucky in that sense.

73s

K2OWK


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: K1ZJH on November 14, 2011, 09:18:19 AM
There is a lot of crap on 20 and 75 meters. Spin the dial and don't give them an audience.
You'll learn quickly what areas of what bands to avoid.

Better yet, operate CW. It is hard to be a jerk on CW. You can be a lid, but being a true
jacka$$ takes an extreme amount of effort on CW and it easier for them to pick up a mike
and remove all doubt :)

Next option is the WARC bands. Mostly good ops, and you avoid the weekend warriors
and egos.  If you can get by the pirates, 10 Meters is another fascinating fun band.

Pete, k1zjh


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: VE7DCW on November 14, 2011, 10:08:30 AM
For the most part, most all bands, courtesy is in force. But, 14.313 must be the place where people have to let their dark side show. I think it is good for that to stay in one spot and not multiples.

But, the other problem is karol madera ve7kfm goes to other places like 14.272....now you got 2 goofed up channels.

 There's your problem exactly ....... anywhere VE7KFM goes the jammers are sure to follow.But interesting to note that Karol is head jammer on those frequencies, frequently playing his 19 minute "M.F'er" tape sort of smacks of malicious interference.Add to this mess the microwave parted,RFI ridden "tube with handles" amplifier he pollutes the band with it does'nt take rocket science to see where the promblem lies.
 One day with luck it will all go away


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: W2NAP on November 16, 2011, 05:30:02 PM
Just remember tho. Fred dont have any horses in the race


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: N5RWJ on November 17, 2011, 01:11:08 PM
I thought it was the marine ch?


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: ONAIR on November 17, 2011, 02:38:47 PM
I heard for the first time the goings on on 14.313. When I first heard it I had to double check my frequency and band, because I thought I was on 11 meters. This sounded just like the CB band. There was a fellow calling another fellow a crook and cheat, and he was calling him a girlie man, whatever that means. It was intersting that both these stations gave there call signs. There was another station playing music, but the two arguing stations blanked the music out when they transmitted. I listened to these stations and thought the conversation was a staged put on. It was a lot of fun to listen to. There was no cursing as you hear on the CB band, and the stations calls were given at the required intervals. I guess there has to be a place for X CB rs on the ham bands where they can continue with there crazy behavior. As long as they stay on 14.313 and do not start to bother other frequencies. I actually enjoy listening to that craziness once in a while, it gives me a break from the serious stuff. I have not heard any Canadian stations at my QTH on 20 meters. I must be lucky in that sense.

73s

K2OWK
  I have to admit, when some guy came out of nowhere and called Karol a "Mud Duck", I almost fell out of my chair laughing!


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: VE7DCW on November 17, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
It's too bad things never really change ala Karol VE7KFM and his jamming on 313 .... he's threatened on air to put a bullet in the head of a certain policewoman if she comes knocking on his door to investigate any criminal complaints that anyone has made against him! ...... Amateur Radio,a hobby anyone can enjoy  Yikes!!  >:(


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: K1DA on November 24, 2011, 09:19:03 AM
I wonder what smug  "Canadian superiority" over the United States is evidenced by their inability to do ANYTHING about KFM?  Here, he'd  have his own page in the DSM II.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: AD6KA on November 24, 2011, 03:09:05 PM
I wonder what smug  "Canadian superiority" over the United States is evidenced by their inability to do ANYTHING about KFM? 
Here, he'd  have his own page in the DSM II.

Now THAT'S funny!  ;D

Ken. AD6KA


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: KE4YOG on November 24, 2011, 04:07:03 PM
Ham radio is like most activities we have our idiots too. It just happens that 313 is the gathering place for a good part of it. It is disgusting to hear such foul speech on the air.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: N8YX on December 04, 2011, 10:00:25 AM
Are all of the complainants using crystal-controlled radio equipment which only covers 14.272-5 and 14.313 MHz?

No?

Have a VFO on it, do ya? Spin the knob and go elsewhere.

IC has on numerous occasions professed that the on-air antics of a certain Canadian radio amateur are viewed as "protected speech". Likewise, our FCC also views the collective commentary of U.S.-licensed amateur operators as "protected speech". Ergo, either 'side' can perpetually jab at each other (profanity and all) and nothing will come of the matter.

The main problem arises when the sycophantic jamming contingent fires up. Laura Smith has repeatedly stated that her office will prosecute individuals who have been identified as being the source of malicious interference and/or illegal operation. Taking 'VR, 'FM, 'KFM et al off the air is not going to stop the problem: The jammers, misogynists and malcontents will simply find some other group to glom onto and create chaos.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: KE4ZHN on December 17, 2011, 07:48:51 AM
Nothing new at all. 14.313 has been a sewer for over 15years that I know of with little to no action on the part of the FCC other than a few hand slaps. As long as that joker up in Canada has a legion of fools here in the states to feed his agenda, he will continue his tirade. The FCC should bust any and all U.S. hams that mess with this idiot because they are just as bad if not worse. They may not be able to touch Karol but why are our hams allowed to do the same thing years on end with no enforcement?


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: KD8DEY on December 17, 2011, 12:47:05 PM
If 14.313 is the Diaper then I guess 14.275 must be the Under padding.......


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: MAGNUM257 on December 26, 2011, 08:43:19 AM
I've listened to this frequency occasionally over the last year, as my licence class does not permit me to transmit. Not very appealing to me.
No urgency in upgrading at this point.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: WD5GWY on December 26, 2011, 09:38:48 AM
I've listened to this frequency occasionally over the last year, as my licence class does not permit me to transmit. Not very appealing to me.
No urgency in upgrading at this point.
Why would something that goes on , on 14.313 (or several other well know frequencies)
prevent you from wanting to upgrade?? There are idiots in every group and Amateur Radio is no exception. Why keep yourself from enjoying more privileges on HF because of a few bad apples? That makes no sense at all.
  There is a ton of other frequencies and modes that you can have available to you with an upgrade. Don't let what you hear a FEW people doing, cause you not to take advantage of what can be available to you with a simple written test and upgrade in license. Amateur Radio is FUN, just pass over the idiots and have some fun of your own.
james
WD5GWY
  


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: K2FOX on December 29, 2011, 04:43:10 AM
I've listened to this frequency occasionally over the last year, as my licence class does not permit me to transmit. Not very appealing to me.
No urgency in upgrading at this point.
Why would something that goes on , on 14.313 (or several other well know frequencies)
prevent you from wanting to upgrade?? There are idiots in every group and Amateur Radio is no exception. Why keep yourself from enjoying more privileges on HF because of a few bad apples? That makes no sense at all.
  There is a ton of other frequencies and modes that you can have available to you with an upgrade. Don't let what you hear a FEW people doing, cause you not to take advantage of what can be available to you with a simple written test and upgrade in license. Amateur Radio is FUN, just pass over the idiots and have some fun of your own.
james
WD5GWY
  

My point is that I am happy with my current hf/vhf/uhf privileges were I know people and they are SANE. Why bother to upgrade when all that BS is going on. If I want to hear that I can always tune to 11 meters (which doesn't seem quite as bad to me). And theres always the FREEBAND!, where the operators are polite and friendly. Makes sense to me...


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: K3WEC on December 30, 2011, 02:04:37 PM
Curiosity got the best of me and I just tuned in for the first time.   What a mess!  Funny and a waste at the same time...these guys have absolutely no lives.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: WD5GWY on December 30, 2011, 08:52:48 PM

My point is that I am happy with my current hf/vhf/uhf privileges were I know people and they are SANE. Why bother to upgrade when all that BS is going on. If I want to hear that I can always tune to 11 meters (which doesn't seem quite as bad to me). And theres always the FREEBAND!, where the operators are polite and friendly. Makes sense to me...
I can understand being happy with your current privileges and if that is enough for you then that is great. But, again, you are letting a "minority" of troublemakers, keep you from enjoying more privileges and chances to meet new and interesting people, simply because of a few misguided individuals. The so-called BS that is going on, is not as widespread and you make it sound. Far from it. As for the 11 meter comment, if you think what goes on there is not as bad as 14.313, then you must have antenna problems. And are not hearing anything. I can guarantee you that there is no difference between the two. And in fact, at least two of the people on 14.313 are also troublemakers on 36LSB on CB. And FREEBAND being nice and polite? I've listened in on a few of those conversations and it's not much different than CB. (or some ham op's as well) There are good and bad individuals in both, Amateur Radio and CB. That's just a fact of life. But, to let any of it keep you from upgrading in order to gain more operating privileges, makes no sense at all. You are missing out on so much more than you can imagine.
But, again, if you are happy where you are at, then stay at that point.
james
WD5GWY


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: N8YX on December 31, 2011, 10:14:12 AM
...And theres always the FREEBAND!, where the operators are polite and friendly. Makes sense to me...

Ummm...you're either a "ham" (meaning: you abide by ALL of the Commission's rules as a condition of amateur license grant) or you're not.

That said, you might get away with playing where you aren't supposed to for a long time. But if you're caught, kiss your ham ticket goodbye.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: W0DV on January 04, 2012, 01:58:21 PM
I've have been listening to 14.275, and 313 for years like many of you have. I get a good laugh from it at times. I don't blame VE7KFM any more than the dolts who participate state side.. It's obvious the FCC really doesn't see this as a huge problem or they would have done something long ago. As long as the children stay in their own sandbox full of cat manure, I don't really care. People who behave like what you hear on these frequencies have no self control, or respect. They have no concept or understanding of how foolish they sound, otherwise they would not behave so badly.
CB radio, X-cbrs were brought up. Wether or not these idiots are cb'rs or X-cbr's is irrelevant. Most of the QSO's I have are with people who started their radio hobby with the CB Radio. Poor behavior was present on ham radio long before the CB was around. My point is...people are people. It doesn't matter if it's amateur Radio or the CB Radio, or an online chat room. A persons character or personality is not dictated by these mediums.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: KE4YOG on January 04, 2012, 02:56:49 PM
I agree as long as they stay in there little self made septic tank I am not going to worry too much. I started with CB when I was in high school. We didnt have 3000 watt amp or the like. If we were lucky we had a cobra 40 channel. We would talk on 16 I think while we were driving to school. I guess I was actually a swl first. I often wonder what kind of DX can they work with 3000 watts? BTW 313 is a good place to tune the antenna or amp or anything. It does no good but it is fun!


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: N7SMI on January 04, 2012, 03:31:54 PM
BTW 313 is a good place to tune the antenna or amp or anything. It does no good but it is fun!

And this is precisely why they think it's OK and justified to tune up and jam DXpeditions, contests, or anyone else that roams near their frequencies. Just leave them alone and turn the dial.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: K3WEC on January 04, 2012, 04:25:53 PM
I don't blame VE7KFM any more than the dolts who participate state side..

I agree totally.  When I listened there were a few US goofballs that seemed infatuated with disrupting the Canada station.  They spoke of some personal details of the Canadian operator that I don't think they'd know/allege if they didn't make a career out of spinning their wheels trying to police the frequency.


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: WB4LCN on January 04, 2012, 06:01:06 PM
Sounds like someone should go on a covert transmitter hunt in Canada. Be sure to bring some wire cutters! :)


Title: RE: Is 14.313 the proverbial diaper of ham radio? LOL
Post by: W2NAP on January 12, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
tune in tomorrow on the next episode of "as 313 turns"

will karol get to talk to donny

will karol repent

will the jammers find something else to do

tune in tomorrow to find out!