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Title: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: GRANDKODIAK on May 23, 2012, 12:44:28 PM
I've been looking but can't seem to find it. Is there a User CP Replies page anywhere for this forum? It would make life alot easier here!


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K9YLI on May 24, 2012, 07:35:09 AM
Explain   " user CP replies"

what is  CP???

lay it out in english......


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 24, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
I'll bite too. What is a CP reply?

Actually I see the term used in Google. But I can't figure out what it means.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: W5FYI on May 25, 2012, 07:21:20 AM
I, too, am at a loss. CP means "control panel"? Or, are you thinking something like a "confidential-private" reply?

A good rule-of-thumb, for everyone, is to define an acronym or initialization in its first use, then use it alone in later references. (Does LOL mean "laugh out loud" or "lots of love" or something entirely different? We can't know for sure unless it's defined.

BTW (e.g. by the way), you should identify yourself either as a General (which you are in the Call Search data base) or a Technician, but not both.

GL in finding your answer (GL, as sent in CW means "good luck," and CW means "continuous wave," the method used to send Morse code. (CW as "Country & Western is a whole 'nother topic).



Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K8AXW on May 25, 2012, 07:45:14 AM
FYI:  Do you forsee a time when people will talk completely with acronyms?   ;)


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: KE3WD on May 25, 2012, 07:59:52 AM
FYI:  Do you forsee a time when people will talk completely with acronyms?   ;)

We are already there. 

Back when the techonoliges available for communication were still basically in infancy, the *ability* to communicate and the reasons for establishing clear communication was not the issue. 

Today there are many ways to establish the technical communication, yet it seems that the people have lost the will to even attempt to have something worthwhile to communicate, nor the desire or respect for the other party to even take the time and effort to actually make their communication as clearly and concisely as would be desirable. 

Such as this relegates the art of communication to the trash heap of history and is surely yet another sign of civilization failing IMO. 

73


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: W5FYI on May 25, 2012, 08:13:46 AM
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FYI:  Do you foresee a time when people will talk completely with acronyms?

I once had a doctor explain that he was asked by a patient, "What can I do about my IBS?"

The doctor said "I really can't tell until I have results from a CBA test, with pHi results, and a D2BL with an ILS panel.

The patient asked "I'm sorry, but what does all that mean?"

The doctor replied, "I don't know. What do you mean by 'IBS?"


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 25, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
"clear communication was not the issue."

Don't you mean, not the problem?

I sorta collect substitutions of "issue" for "problem" or other more appropriate words.  It's as if we don't want to admit anymore that we or others have problems. The record I've found is held by a news commentator who referred to the Japanese tsunami and nuclear disaster (15,000+ dead)  as an "issue."

Notice how many on Eham with a broken radio report that it has an issue.



Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: W0FM on May 25, 2012, 01:25:28 PM
When I just Googled "CP" I got references to "Club Penguin" (I have NO idea) and a woman suffering with Cerebral Palsey who coughs a lot when she eats.

Troll?

Terry, WØFM


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: KE3WD on May 25, 2012, 03:27:36 PM
"clear communication was not the issue."

Don't you mean, not the problem?

I sorta collect substitutions of "issue" for "problem" or other more appropriate words.  It's as if we don't want to admit anymore that we or others have problems. The record I've found is held by a news commentator who referred to the Japanese tsunami and nuclear disaster (15,000+ dead)  as an "issue."

Notice how many on Eham with a broken radio report that it has an issue.



And you are correct about that. 

Dunno why I used that damn word, its use is one of my own pet peeves as well. 

The bad use of the language is having a creeping effect that in itself is rather scary...


Thanks for catching that! 

Um, can I blame it on that strong cup o' Kona coffee? 


73


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 25, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
Clark, this is another case where the bad guys have won. (I saw that posted on a grammar site). Eham seems especially to have surrendered the good fight which is odd since this site is largely about solving problems. A busted $5000 radio is a problem, not a issue. Touching the plate cap of an energized 3-500 is a big problem, not an issue. But some dictionaries now show issue as a limp-wristed synonym for problem. It's becoming standard English.

Problem --a perfectly good word--has been largely replaced by the fuzzier word issue and in just 20 years according to some language experts. 

Correctly used, issue means a topic for discussion as in "The candidate debated the issues." Somehow issue came to mean a minor problem or inconvenience. But lately problem and a number of similar words have been subsumed into the euphemism, issue. That word is like a horror film Blob.... evolving, growing and propelled in all directions by some need in us to soften everything unpleasant. Perhaps it's a process one picks up from too much Dr. Phil.  :)

If the death of 15,000 Japanese can be called an issue, what remains that deserves to be called a problem, a catastrophe? Nuclear Armageddon?

Houston We Have an Issue?
Note this famous example of good clear English when it mattered:
  Swigert: 'Okay, Houston, we've had a problem here.'
  Houston: 'This is Houston. Say again please.'
  Lovell: 'Houston, we've had a problem. We've had a main B bus undervolt."
   


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: STAYVERTICAL on May 25, 2012, 08:45:19 PM
Historically, and still today, language is used to differentiate people into different class structures.
This is why the ancient nobility would spend so much time on learning dead languages and have training in grammar.
It was not possible for the average person to spend so much time wastefully, and it was a way for the upper class to recognise each other.
Today, although we won't admit it, language is still used as a tag.
For example, as soon as I hear someone say the word "disrespecting" I know that person has had substandard language training.
It may not be politically correct, but it is still true that we judge a person by the way they speak.

For most of human history, the powerful have to show that they are so rich that they can afford to waste money and time on
activities which are not productive.

Examples are the elaborate tapesteries produced by the wives of nobles, showing these men could afford to have a wife who
did not have to produce food in the fields.
Another example is the elaborately outfitted footmen and servants employed, showing that these people were so rich that they
could have people who could do nothing else but wait to open doors or wait for their master to ask for something.
Objects of art, such as paintings and sculptures, although beautiful in their own right, were also purchased to show that money
could be used for objects which did not involve mere survival.
And of course, something that has endured till today, is the keeping of the frail and weak wife, who is unfit for robust agricultural work.

With the demise of the nobility in most western countries, the people with money were the businessmen.
These business people tried to emulate the nobility of old, but they need to earn a living, something which the old nobility would never do.
So they needed to find other ways to display the ability to waste money.
In modern days, the wealthy businessman has his wife waste money prolifically, thus increasing the status of her husband who is too busy earning a living.

These are all efforts to show show ones increased status, such as the changing styles in suntanning.
For example in agrarian times, a european person who was very pale was obviously someone who did not have to work in the fields,
and so must have had more money and status.
So the style was for pale skin in Europe and many other countries.

These days, with many people working in offices, and so not being suntanned, the reverse is true.
To show that one is rich enough to spend time in sunny climates, many europeans try to get suntans or artifically darken their skin.
The opposite is true in many developing countries where the majority of people work outside.

So from the way you speak, to your tanning preferences, or the reason people pay large prices for garments advertising their makers,
the game is the same - status seeking.

We will all deny it, but that is the baseline of many of our decisions.

Just an observation, please don't think I am "disrespecting" anyone.

73 - Rob




Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 26, 2012, 08:35:35 AM
From 2011, 15,000 die in Japanese weather "issue."

Now consider today's headline from the LA Times: "Confessor in Etan Patz killing has mental health issues."

"A man who claims to have abducted and strangled Etan Patz, who vanished 33 years ago Friday, has suffered from bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and hallucinations,...".

At least he doesn't have mental health problems.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K8AXW on May 26, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
Seems that several here have issues with problems or problems with issues!


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: KA5IPF on May 26, 2012, 09:56:56 AM
I still don't know what "CP" is?

Clif


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 26, 2012, 10:28:47 AM
"Confessor in Etan Patz killing has mental health issues."
80 years ago that headline would have been  "Confessor in killing is raving lunatic."

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I still don't know what "CP" is?

I agree there are too many acronyms thrown around which makes it hard to shop for a new DUC/DDC SDR. The Flex-6000 will arrive with several additions to the radio lexicon...  such as Flex's futuristic sounding "Spectral Capture Unit" [SCU} Didn't Bill Murray use one in Ghostbusters?

Each of the two Spectral Capture Units allows simultaneous
reception from their own respective antenna or the two can
be optimally combined to deliver increased dynamic range. In
addition, dual SCUs provide the capability for diversity reception



Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: KB4QAA on May 26, 2012, 12:00:03 PM

"A man who claims to have abducted and strangled Etan Patz, who vanished 33 years ago Friday, has suffered from bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and hallucinations,...".
Actually this is more sloppy reporting, since one can't be diagnosed with both Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia.  If he has symptoms of both that is a third disorder called SchizoAffective Disorder.

Not that accuracy or truth matter anymore to the media.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: N4UM on May 26, 2012, 12:06:04 PM
Stayvertical has given an excellent functional explanation of how language is used to tell not only about an event but (perhaps more importantly) about the background of the person reporting the event.  Ham radio jargon is another example of how the particular word one chooses communicates as much about the speaker as about the object of his speech.  A ham may have a "QTH," rather than a location... a "handle," rather than a name.  A "linear," rather than an amplifier (even if it is Class C)   - particularly if he or she is a "newbie."

English, supposedly,  has the largest vocabulary of any language.  I suspect this may have happened because of a preoccupation with class and where everyone fits into the social order.  I also think it is because the English weren't above stealing anything that wasn't nailed down - including perfectly good foreign words! Supposedly the main effect of the Norman conquest was the importation of about 20,000 French words into the English language.  Later on the English had a pretty big empire for a while and managed to "borrow" thousands of words from the many languages of their colonial possessions.

The usage of many current words often makes my toes curl.  "Issue" for "problem".  "Impacted" for "affected."  "Awesome" for the most insignificant and mundane sorts of things. etc. Much as current usage and ab-usage of good old words bothers me, I believe that this is the way languages evolve and there really isn't much any of us can do to stop it.

The French apparently are extremely concerned with linguistic purity and seem determined not to import words into their language.  I'm still not sure whether their linguistic guardians have decided whether or not to recognize "le hamburger" as a legitimate French word.

BTW, I have no idea what "CP" means but I'm sure it's awesome, dude.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: W0FM on May 26, 2012, 02:15:38 PM
"I'm still not sure whether their linguistic guardians have decided whether or not to recognize "le hamburger" as a legitimate French word."

Would you like French fries with that?

Sorry,

Terry, WØFM



Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: G3RZP on May 26, 2012, 03:35:13 PM
So guys,

Just what the hell is 'CP' supposed to mean?

Puzzled - or is it just a troll?

G3RZP


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: G1YHE on May 27, 2012, 03:43:45 AM
Please somebody state what CP means, the suspense is killing.

 :)


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: N1EQ on May 27, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
FWIW, AFAICT, what the OP meant by "User CP" is "User Control Panel".

Anyway, IHTH!

 ;D


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: G3RZP on May 27, 2012, 07:08:42 AM
Terry, W0FM,

the original was 'bifteck a la Hambourgeoise', and the relationship between the original recipe and MacDonalds or Burger King is more than somewhat vague.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: KE3WD on May 27, 2012, 08:08:49 AM
Remember all the "journalists" and "newscasters" called what happened on 9/11 a "tragedy"? 

It was in reality an Atrocity. 


73


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: G3RZP on May 27, 2012, 08:56:56 AM
Like the old one about the difference between a catastrophe and a calamity.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K9YLI on May 28, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
aparantly   grandkodiak  doesnt come back to read replys to  his  messages  or  he would have  explained   CP  by  now....

 ::)


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: AD6KA on May 28, 2012, 06:00:56 PM
Evan Patz kills a child and has "issues", right........

Reminds me of all the TV programs that
refer to the "Vietnam Conflict". Yes, technically
war was never declared by Congress,
but 50k Americans dead and 150k wounded
is not a "conflict".

When you have tickets to a day game and the
boss won't give you the afternoon off is a "conflict"!


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 28, 2012, 06:34:11 PM
6 year old Etan Patz was the victim 33 years ago in Manhattan.  Terrible story. Disappeared the first day his parents allowed him to walk two blocks by himself to the bus stop. His parents never moved from their apartment or changed their listed phone number hoping Etan would come home some day. One of the first kids on a milk cartoon. NY police now have a confessed suspect "with issues."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Etan_Patz

Issues, problems, and a close modern cousin, challenges.

By the way the suspect is charged with the supreme sin by cable TV standards... he killed a cute photogenic white kid. Nancy Grace will go crazy over this!


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: K0OD on May 29, 2012, 09:15:16 AM
15,000 dead is an issue, not a disaster, not a calamity. Apparently a $19 billion financial loss is just an issue too.

Popup in bold red text from an online brokerage site:

"Because of acknowledged problems at NASDAQ, some customers who placed orders for Facebook (FB) stock on Friday, May 18, 2012 may have experienced delays in status updates. This is an industry-wide issue that affected many different broker-dealers and other market participants. We realize that some customers still have questions about how these delays may have affected their trading activity. We understand that NASDAQ is working with federal regulators to determine what, if any, accommodation might be made. However, customers should assume that any shares of Facebook stock currently credited to their accounts are owned by them and available for trading. We will continue to work with the industry to get NASDAQ to come to a resolution that addresses the concerns of our customers."

And from Reuters:

"Two top U.S. financial regulators said the issues around the initial public offering of Facebook should be reviewed, putting fresh pressure on the company, its embattled lead underwriter and the Nasdaq.

After Friday's nearly flat close and Monday's 11 percent plunge, Facebook shares closed 8.9 percent lower at $31 on volume of 101 million shares. At that price the company has shed more than $19 billion in market capitalization from its $38-per-share offering price last week."


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: GRANDKODIAK on June 04, 2012, 12:01:31 PM
Haha perfect example... if this site HAD a User CP page, I would have remebered that I posted this question weeks ago!!

User CP, User Control Page... basically it's like a homepage in the forum (think notification alert dropdown on Facebook), like a homepage but the main feature is that (in most forum's I've used/use currently anyway) list your subscribed threads that have a new post, as a reminder and short link to let you know that someone has replied since you've last posted on that thread, and will disappear after you have clicked it to read the post.

In this example, after someone first responded, when I went into my CP page (which i usually set as my default location for the favorite page pointer address) it would have listed "eHam Formus\Misc\User CP Replies on this forum?" last poster "X" on June X 2012." I'd click that and it would bring up this post, so I could see that someone had responded. If I returned to the CP page after reading it, it would be blank now, or would show the remaining subscribed threads that had new updated info for me to check... so you don't have to remember what threads you have created, posted are want to monitor.


Title: RE: User CP Replies on this forum?
Post by: W0FM on June 04, 2012, 12:54:21 PM
Well, GRANDKODIAK, eHam does they same thing but in a different manner.  You can go to 'PROFILE" in the yellow tab at the above left and then, in the Profile Info box on the left click on "MY POSTS" under SUMMARY and you can review all of your posts.  When I post, I click on "NOTIFY" at the bottom (and top) right side of the post page and I receive an email whenever someone posts on a thread or topic that I have requested notification on.

OR, you can click on "HELP" in the yellow tab above left and it will explain how this site works.

I've never used Facebook, so saying "think Facebook" doesn't get to all of us.  ;o)

73,

Terry, WØFM