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Title: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: N3BQA on March 18, 2013, 05:49:20 PM
I'm looking for a new simple to program & operate 2 meter only ht & mobile rig. I'm tired of rigs with fancy bells & whistles, difficult menus, etc. I do not want to carry an operator's manual with me all the time. Anything out there where an engineering degree is not required?


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: VA3CDG on March 18, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
I think simple to program is relative.

That being said. I have a Yaesu FT-60R and it's totally simple. One level menu that is logical and simple to use. Also, quite a damn good radio.

I know you asked for a mono-bander, but I have no knowledge of any other than the 60R.

See if one of your buddies has one. Try it out.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KE4VVF on March 18, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
HTX-202 is a simple 2m HT.  It can be found selling for $40 at most hamfests that I attend. It is an old model.
Yaesu FT-2900R is fairly simple, pretty cheap and rather powerful. 


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KD0NGX on March 21, 2013, 09:34:18 PM
I have a Yaesu FT-250R I bought as an opened box from HRO a few years back. It works very similar to the FT-60R and uses the same accessories, but the 250 is 2M. It's pretty basic but that's what I wanted and it works well. I have the FT-60R too. I have programmed without software--just from the front of the radios.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KC9NVP on March 22, 2013, 05:36:23 AM
You may not find a simple 2 meter radio that does not required some programming.  I have the Icom V8 and for simple simplex operation, it is great.  If you plan to work a repeater, you will need to program in the off sets and tones for the repeater.  Icom also has on their website a one sheet programming instructions for the V8 which eliminates having to carry the manual.

David S


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: K5LXP on March 22, 2013, 07:06:55 AM
Consider commercial radios.  Once they're set up there's only a couple knobs and a switch or two to deal with.  90% of my 2M and 440 activity is with radios that have 6 channels and an on-off-volume knob.   Some radios like my Yaesu have a "channel mode" which can make things a bit simpler but not as simple as a commercial radio with just a couple knobs sticking out of the top.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: K4JJL on March 22, 2013, 07:39:18 AM
A GE M-PA with Hamflash firmware is the easiest radio I've ever used.  Traded a 40w MSF5000 UHF repeater for 2 of these (one VHF and one UHF).  Use them all the time.  Super durable, too.  You can run over it with a car and it will still work just fine.  Case is heavy die-cast metal.

Only problems is batteries.  Pretty expensive, considering you can buy a Chinese handheld and a half for what a replacement battery costs.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KM3F on March 22, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
Looking at the issue this way says you will always need the same actions no matter what radio you have.
A. The offset is standard and automatic 99.9% of the time.
B. You will nearly always need to set the PL tone or use the PL tone hunting feature is it has one, unless you know the repeater is open.
You will need to turn on the Tone function.
C. You will need to set the power level unless you want to run full power for all repeaters.
D. You will always have to set the output frequency up in VFO function.
E. You will always need to set each to a memory number out of VFO..
F. There will be a time you want to clear a memory of a setting.
There is no way to boil all these down to a few simple actions.
The other way is to use a programming cable and computer and do it off a monitor, then load the setting into the radio.
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Now take care you don't over work yourself playing in a hobby. Hi hi.
Good luck.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: W8JX on March 22, 2013, 07:30:56 PM
Look at a Kenwood TH K20 2 meter HT and a Kemwood TM 281 mobile. The can both be had for a total of about 300 bucks or less and easy to use too. Both support narrow band 2.5khz FM too.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KU4UV on March 24, 2013, 12:29:52 PM
Icom IC-2AT.  Doesn't get much simplier that that for an HT.  Look for them at hamfests or on eBay.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: K4JJL on March 25, 2013, 07:30:58 AM
Icom IC-2AT.  Doesn't get much simplier that that for an HT.  Look for them at hamfests or on eBay.

CTCSS becomes an issue with this radio, especially when not equipped with the appropriate board.  Changing tones becomes another issue if you do, in fact, have the appropriate board.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KQ6Q on March 26, 2013, 08:34:45 PM
The Alinco single band radios are solid, and program a whole lot easier than many others, and have all current features.
I have the 220 model, DJV-27T


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: N7DMA on April 06, 2013, 06:41:51 PM
Yaesu/Vertex VX-150. MFJ "Long Ranger" antenna for portable. Simple radio, No longer in production, but found inexpensive on the used market (I've seen them on Flea-bay for $75). No longer in production, but parts like batteries, AA holders, speaker mic still available. Parts are compatable with the FT-60R.  Commercial quality. I love this radio! Both are fantastic.
For mobile setup, I've used a cheap Opek dual band mag mount. Not sure of the model #, but under $20 new at a local hamfest. Unobtrusive, to say the least!

Get the speaker mic! Saves frustration!

Karl
N7DMA
Tucson, AZ


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: K8QV on April 10, 2013, 11:02:30 AM
Well, there's always CB.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: N9ZQZ on April 10, 2013, 06:38:44 PM
I have a Kenwood TH22 AT and it has been a very simple HT to use. Kenwood no longer makes em but you can find them. I have had mine since 94 and they are easy to repair as well.

For a mobile I have tried Yeasu (FT 2800M) and my current mobile Kenwood (Tm-281) and I found the Kenwood a little easier to program and get around. I also get compliments on the sound of the Kenwood. My base ICOM IC-2350 I always have to get out the book to program the tone and memories.

Good luck!!

Jamie
N9ZQZ


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: K7SON on May 02, 2013, 07:27:48 PM
Can't beat a Yaesu FT-250r for 2M only. Simple (even repeater entries after the first one or two you enter) and I think you can find them new for $99. Similar menu on the FT-1900/2900 mobiles, reliable, power to spare and cheap. I have other rigs, but these are the simple no frills models and not one has ever acted up..


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: CAMR on May 06, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
Whatever you do, don't even consider an icom v8000 mobile. Easier to pick a bank vault lock than program one of these. I have been told by several experienced operators who say to not even try programming one without programming software.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: K1CJS on May 07, 2013, 05:08:17 AM
Whatever you do, don't even consider an icom v8000 mobile. Easier to pick a bank vault lock than program one of these. I have been told by several experienced operators who say to not even try programming one without programming software.

Agreed that they're hard to program--but the upside to that is that you can actually name the repeater instead of just seeing the frequency of it.

Once you DO get it set up, however, the radio is hard to beat.  Plenty of power and it doesn't heat up like some of the other 2 meter rigs because of its massive heatsink.  I wouldn't recommend it to a beginner ham, but to someone who either gets the programming cable and software or who is used to programming Icom products, the V8000 is great!

It's like I said in other threads where recommendations for a rig are asked for--it's personal preference.


Title: RE: Looking For A Simple To Operate 2 Meter HT & Mobile Rig.
Post by: KF7VXA on May 26, 2013, 07:37:50 AM
It sounds like the programming is an issue to you.

The RT programming software at $50.00 makes programming so easy it should be against the law.

A Yaesu FT-60 is a tough radio, duel band and easy to use. Get the RT programming software and program the radio as you want it. Changing freqs is easy as can be as is adding a bunch of freqs for an area where you may be traveling to.

With this combo, you can easily change anything that has to do with the radio with just some mouse clicks and inputting numbers.

This way you are getting an up to date radio, accessories are reasonable and available.
For moble use, a good antenna on your vehicle and an adapter and your all set. I use the plug in cigarette lighter adapter if I'm on the road for a while and don't feel like putting my larger radio in the vehicle. An external speaker in a vehicle is almost manditory or else a speaker/mike kept close so you can hear the audio.

Also get one of the aftermarket antennas for the radio. The stock antennas are marginal at best.

John