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Author Topic: New Ham Radio Setup  (Read 3898 times)
KG5GOP
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« on: June 06, 2015, 02:42:47 PM »

First let me beg forgiveness.  I am new to Ham Radio and as most of you know, passing the test and know what you are doing are completely different things.  I suppose I could spend countess hours looking but I am hoping to find some education (and sympathy) here.

Having said that I wanted to start out small until I became more efficient at amateur radio.  I bought a mobile transceiver.  Based on some reviews I ended up purchasing a Wouxun KG-UV899 Dual Bander.  I read the manual and got started.  I thought that I was going fairly good when I realized that I could see activity on the radio but could basically hear nothing except a bit of squelch occasionally.  As my starting point I chose a repeater that I believe has a fair amount of activity since it is the base for the local club and is pretty close.  I looked up the repeater coordinates and began programming my mobile device. When done, as stated earlier, I could hear nothing.  Could someone point me in the right direction please?

Here are the repeater setting that I got from the club website:
Frequency: 145.19
Offset: -
Tone: 136.5

Radio Settings (forgive me, I am going to give them all):
Menu 2 Squelch Level = 5
Menu 3 Power Save = On
Menu 4 Transmit Power = High
Menu 5 Roger = Off
Menu 6 TOT = 120
Menu 7 VOX = OFF
Menu 8 Bandwidth = Wide
Menu 9 Voice Guide = English
Menu 10 Transmitting Overtime Alarm = 5
Menu 11 Beep = On
Menu 12 Power on Message = OFF
Menu 13 Busy Channel Lockout = OFF
Menu 14 Keypad Lock = OFF
Menu 15 Receiving CTSS = 136.5Hz
Menu 16 Transmitting  CTSS = 136.5Hz
Menu 17 Receive DCS = OFF
Menu 18 Transmit DCS = OFF
Menu 19 Scanning Mode = TO
Menu 20 Side Key Function = RADIO
Menu 21 Working Mode = FREQ
Menu 22 Auto Back light = ON
Menu 23 Offset Frequency = 00.600
Menu 24 Frequency Shift Direction = -
Menu 25 Edit Chanel Name = Wesley
Menu 26 Memory Channel = 002
Menu 27 Channel Delete = 002
Menu 28 Edit ANI ID Code = 000
Menu 29 Delay Time for Transmitting = OFF
Menu 30 DTMF Signaling = OFF
Menu 31 Mute Mode = QT
Menu 32 Ring Time = 0
Menu 33 DTMF Sidetone = DT-ST
and last but not least
Menu 34 Transmit Mode for ANI =BOT

I know that is a lot of menu settings for one post.  Now please - what am I missing Huh?



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AA4PB
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 03:50:37 PM »

The problem is probably Menu 15 Receiving CTSS = 136.5Hz. In most cases the repeater output does not transmit a CTSS tone so it is not opening your squelch. Turn Menu 15 off.

The repeater CTSS specification is the tone that you must transmit in order to access the repeater. Menu 16 handles that.
 
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KG5GOP
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 04:10:32 PM »

The problem is probably Menu 15 Receiving CTSS = 136.5Hz. In most cases the repeater output does not transmit a CTSS tone so it is not opening your squelch. Turn Menu 15 off.

The repeater CTSS specification is the tone that you must transmit in order to access the repeater. Menu 16 handles that.
 

Thanks AA4PB - I will give that a shot - I think I may have tried it already, but in the heat of frustration I cannot be sure.  Regardless thanks for your response and I will post results
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KB2VUQ
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 08:09:50 PM »

Allow me, if I may...

You are telling the radio to use the "frequency" mode,
although you are attempting to program it in the "channel"
mode. Frequency mode is the v.f.o. mode. That is whatever 
you punch in from the keypad or the default frequency that
the radio was shipped in.

Menu item 21. Try changing that to "CH-FREQ" or "NAME"
instead of "FREQUENCY". This will tell the radio to use the
information from the memory channel you wrote.

Also, you should set item 34 to off. DTMF ANI will usually
cause the repeater audio to mute for a few seconds and
you don't need to use it anyway.   
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SOFAR
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 08:17:37 PM »

I looked up the model designation and it came up as a handheld/portable. .... CTCSS can be useful on some repeaters, the morse id will be silenced, keeps other interference from opening the squelch. Learn the basic operations before getting into the other settings.
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KG5GOP
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2015, 03:21:05 PM »

Allow me, if I may...

You are telling the radio to use the "frequency" mode,
although you are attempting to program it in the "channel"
mode. Frequency mode is the v.f.o. mode. That is whatever 
you punch in from the keypad or the default frequency that
the radio was shipped in.

Menu item 21. Try changing that to "CH-FREQ" or "NAME"
instead of "FREQUENCY". This will tell the radio to use the
information from the memory channel you wrote.

Also, you should set item 34 to off. DTMF ANI will usually
cause the repeater audio to mute for a few seconds and
you don't need to use it anyway.   
KB2VUQ, 
I changed to CH-FREQ to select the channel I had programmed with the above settings.  I could not tell much of a difference.  Since this mobile radio is a dual bander, I have it set with channels 01 and 02 to be the two closest repeaters in my area.  Although I am more than well within range of either/both repeaters, I decided to take a drive to place myself between the two (more or less) to see if the antenna on the mobile just is not cutting the mustard.  No real change.  I do occasionally hear what sounds like some CW traffic, but that is about it. I looked at the settings for Menu 34, OFF is not an option - Options are BOT, EOT or BOTH.   Again I am new to this, but it could not be that hard get a simple 2M radio to work.  I would appreciate any help I can get !!
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WA9AFM
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2015, 06:31:57 AM »

Steve,

      Noticed you have Menu 8 set for 'wide'; consider changing it to 'narrow'.  As mentioned, turn Menu 15 off.  CTCSS on receive is usually for areas with bad intermod, i.e. the squelch will only open when it hears a signal with the correct sub audible tone. 

     Also, coordinate with another club member to get on the air with you to conduct on-air checks.  The CW traffic you mentioned may well have been the repeater ID.

     Good luck and welcome to the world of amateur radio.

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