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Author Topic: Seriously, do people really expect the DX see their junk cluster requests?  (Read 232 times)
K3NRX
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« on: Yesterday at 06:31:22 PM »

Meaning the following:

6O7O 3795  any 75 ssb tonight?
(meanwhile the whole world thinks 6O7O is on 3795, but they are not)

C21WW 21300 how about some 15 meters???
(Meanwhile the whole world thinks C21WW  is on 21 300, but they’re not)

VP6D 14000  PSE 20 CW!

Does anyone else find this practice to be the equivalent of yet more cluster lid-ism?
I mean just how damn impatient can you be?  I’ve been told many times If you don’t like the way of the expedition is being run, then do your own DXpedition. To the junk spotters that do this, I say the same and quit clogging the clusters!  Tongue Angry Angry Angry

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W5TD
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« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 11:12:50 PM »

Agreed!  The DX is going to give up a good run on 20 cw and QSY to 17 meters just for you.  Yeah Right!
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« Reply #2 on: Today at 01:17:49 AM »

 Don't forget these gems:

 Tnx for 6 bands
 Doesn't hear me
 When CW?
 When SSB?
 When FT-8?
 Euro zoo
 Only works NA
 Worked with 100 watts
 Sig coming up here but now QRT



                                             Tom KH0/KC0W
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VA3VF
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« Reply #3 on: Today at 03:13:50 AM »

It won't solve the problem, but disabling the comments field on your cluster client will help.
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K3NRX
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« Reply #4 on: Today at 04:38:29 AM »

V-North

 All that will do is leave a blank junk spot where the station is spotted and not  on the frequency that’s been listed. I really think if people are going to work DX, that they really do need to be educated on how to utilize the cluster.  My question is, is the DX actually paying any attention to this nonsense/monitoring the clusters, and taking heed? My guess is they are too busy operating/hell no!  It really has become just plain silly  as to what’s going on.

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K3NRX
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« Reply #5 on: Today at 04:44:32 AM »

Don't forget these gems:

 Tnx for 6 bands
 Doesn't hear me
 When CW?
 When SSB?
 When FT-8?
 Euro zoo
 Only works NA
 Worked with 100 watts
 Sig coming up here but now QRT



                                             Tom KH0/KC0W


 Excellent examples! But if the spotter is actually spotting the DX on an actual frequency where it’s operating, it doesn’t really matter what the comments are. My biggest beef is entering an 80 meter spot with a request comment When the station is NOT actually on 80 meters... pretty sad!   Roll Eyes Angry

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VK3HJ
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« Reply #6 on: Today at 04:50:06 AM »

Tom, you forgot:

Nothing here
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N1UR
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« Reply #7 on: Today at 04:52:28 AM »

Actually, from what I have observed on a some DXpeditions is that some of them ARE actually monitoring the cluster and the comments.  Especially if they are running FT8.  Because "operating" is re-defined in such cases.  Since all the "operating" of the op is focused on the screen, its a blurry picture of what is on the screen you are paying attention to vs not paying attention to.

Some use the cluster as a broadcast medium - a parallel CQ.

I see this problem getting worse, not better.

73

Ed  N1UR
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VK3KTT
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« Reply #8 on: Today at 08:33:41 AM »

Guilty as charged your honour i have cluster begged when i was a 100 watt station clawing my way up the dx ladder because most dxpeditions dont spend a lot of time looking for vk as there are only really maybe 100 operators chasing hardcore dx and you trying to work into  and hearing  from the back of the dx's antenna its not much fun especcially when i was doing it in ssb.
and i found some did look and they did turn their antenna for us cause they then knew we were listening.
cheers
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« Reply #9 on: Today at 09:58:40 AM »

You are preaching to the choir here. I am truly tired of "cluster begging" and damn tires of "ft8 is not real ham radio" spots. Leave the DX alone and let them run the Dxpedition as they see fit. Stop begging, stop commenting about things you like or don't like. Just spot DX.  That is what the cluster is for.  Oh, and while you are at, you might have the courtesy to put what mode the DX is on.  You can't always tell from the frequency spot. It could be CW, it could be RTTY it could be FT8 or FT4, or they could be working SSB in the foreign phone band and listening up in the US phone band. It could be a lot of things.  Put the mode in your comments ans shut yer trap about what you hate. who gives a rats what you hate or don't hate.
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73  James K0UA
ARRL Missouri Technical Specialist
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