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Author Topic: 630 meter new ham band  (Read 6882 times)
KOP
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2017, 04:22:59 PM »

This week on Amateur Radio Roundtable, Dave Casler KE0OG, joins us with his "Ask Dave" segment and John Langrige, KB5NJD, who has an experimental license from the FCC discussing the new 630 Meter ham band. You won't want to miss either of these great segments. Also shack pictures of your shacks. You can watch is show Tues at 8:00 PM central time on W5KUB.COM . This show is also simulcast on famous international shortwave station WBCQ on 5130 khz. ( for intl it is 0100 UTC Wed) We also invite you to join our ham radio facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/w5kub/

Since you missed the point of the original post so completely as to defy all sane reason I'll quote it here.
I'll admit you were not the original offender John . KC2QYM got out of the box with an equally inane and non sequitur response .

This is about additional bandwidth , however small , fraught with difficult and interesting challenges . From new purpose for power MosFets to creative antenna construction this is an opportunity for experimentation and   "To advance the art, science, and enjoyment of Amateur Radio". Has your tired litany so permeated your very being so deeply that you forget who we are ? Yes, WE John . We are both Extra Class Amateur Radio Operators . No qualification necessary or needed . There yet is a difference , a very important difference . As you relentlessly lament the virtues of an era gone by you have become a cancer unto yourself and the Amateur Radio Service . Your incessant rant about the downfall of Amateur Radio in and of itself is part of the problem . You have become part of the problem . Continue to wallow in your imagined world of yesteryear at the expense of any and all reason all you like . It will not change the past , present or future . Only a dedication to craft , a pride in ownership , a purpose beyond self , will cure your illness .

John , I once respected your years of participation and service to the Amateur Radio community.
Now I'm not so sure . 

Peter , John should know better . You may not . There is still time to learn . While you're at it , upgrade . The extra bandwidth contains some interesting conversation .

To the both of you . If Amateur Radio has become such a meaningless pursuit , leave . Just leave and allow the rest of us  "To advance the art, science, and enjoyment of Amateur Radio".
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I considered a microwave oven magnetron and a 4' dish as a drone-killer. The ERP would be on the order of a hundred thousand watts or so. ~anon

November 28, 2018, 09:16:04 AM
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2017, 05:36:30 AM »

I have it on good authority that the no-code technician license class was going to bring a swift end to amateur radio.  Oh, that didn't happen?

To hear some people talk, amateur radio should have died a thousand deaths by now.

And yet we're still here.  Strange...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2017, 07:53:51 AM »

I'm with you. Change is hard for many, and nostalgia has a way of making the glory days seem better than they really were.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2017, 10:13:29 AM »

I don't entirely understand why some people are so desperate to cling to the bygone "good old days" that they seem intent on driving newcomers away from the hobby.  That will kill amateur radio faster than any FCC rule change.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2017, 04:58:05 AM »

This week on Amateur Radio Roundtable, Dave Casler KE0OG, joins us with his "Ask Dave" segment and John Langrige, KB5NJD, who has an experimental license from the FCC discussing the new 630 Meter ham band. You won't want to miss either of these great segments. Also shack pictures of your shacks. You can watch is show Tues at 8:00 PM central time on W5KUB.COM . This show is also simulcast on famous international shortwave station WBCQ on 5130 khz. ( for intl it is 0100 UTC Wed) We also invite you to join our ham radio facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/w5kub/

Since you missed the point of the original post so completely as to defy all sane reason I'll quote it here.
I'll admit you were not the original offender John . KC2QYM got out of the box with an equally inane and non sequitur response .

This is about additional bandwidth , however small , fraught with difficult and interesting challenges . From new purpose for power MosFets to creative antenna construction this is an opportunity for experimentation and   "To advance the art, science, and enjoyment of Amateur Radio". Has your tired litany so permeated your very being so deeply that you forget who we are ? Yes, WE John . We are both Extra Class Amateur Radio Operators . No qualification necessary or needed . There yet is a difference , a very important difference . As you relentlessly lament the virtues of an era gone by you have become a cancer unto yourself and the Amateur Radio Service . Your incessant rant about the downfall of Amateur Radio in and of itself is part of the problem . You have become part of the problem . Continue to wallow in your imagined world of yesteryear at the expense of any and all reason all you like . It will not change the past , present or future . Only a dedication to craft , a pride in ownership , a purpose beyond self , will cure your illness .

John , I once respected your years of participation and service to the Amateur Radio community.
Now I'm not so sure . 

Peter , John should know better . You may not . There is still time to learn . While you're at it , upgrade . The extra bandwidth contains some interesting conversation .

To the both of you . If Amateur Radio has become such a meaningless pursuit , leave . Just leave and allow the rest of us  "To advance the art, science, and enjoyment of Amateur Radio".

I am not against experimentation. However, when the ARRL spent inordinate amounts of money to petition the FCC for this low 6 or 7 kHz of spectrum one has to question how many amateurs will benefit. In other words, what is the return on investment to the overall amateur community? Sure, a sub one percent of amateurs are ecstatic about this band, but most will never even think about it. When I mention the HOA effort that the ARRL undertook at considerable cost it was apparent to me and many others, that they raised the EmComm flag to rally the amateur community to this crusade. Using EmComm participation by amateurs as the main reason to defeat HOA rules that keep an eyesore of antennas out of a community violates the majority of home owners that don't want to see them. And again, every owner agrees to this common restriction. Did the ARRL really think they could win this? Apparently they did since they spent well over $100,000 to petition lawmakers, boondoggle trips to Washington by ARRL representatives not to mention retaining legal counsel. I brought up these points as examples of how the ARRL misalocates funds for things that have limited affect on the majority of hams. Now if the ARRL put more effort to protect our existing bands from government and experimental use of our allocated frequencies, that would be appropriate. Pushing reform of frequency use by foreign users by petitioning world radio bodies would be a more noble pursuit by the ARRL. A more uniform worldwide respect for amateur radio bands across regions 1, 2, and 3 would be the better fight.

And finally KOP, you can never win an argument by inventing a flaw in the person you are having an argument with. Citing that somehow because I'm a general I don't reach your level of extra class abilities just shows your lack of intelligence. You lost the debate as soon as you couldn't resist using this lame reason to attack my points. To judge other amateurs simply on the basis of their class of license or how long they've been a ham shows that your own perspective of others is myopic. I'll give sway to your assumed technical capabilities in radio but I don't think you're at my level of debate.
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2017, 01:05:38 PM »

Quote from: KOP link=topic=114338.msg991669#msg991669 ~snip While you're at it , upgrade . The extra bandwidth contains some interesting conversation .
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Peter I am sorry if the point was missed . Exclusively and completely my failure. Please allow me to try again.

[sincere] ~snip While you're at it , upgrade . The extra bandwidth contains some interesting conversation . [/sincere]

Meant as encouragement Peter . In those slivers of spectrum available reside some of the most unique of our number. Some of the most experienced and yes, some of the patrons and followers of The Church of St Hiram .

My opinion of the A.P.R.A. is no secret. I believe it to be nothing short of insanity,  doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Parading the same legislation , unchanged before the legislature for a third year in a row is a waste of time energy and money . We may not be that far apart in thought .

This is about additional bandwidth , however small , fraught with difficult and interesting challenges . From new purpose for power MosFets to creative antenna construction this is an opportunity for experimentation and   "To advance the art, science, and enjoyment of Amateur Radio". This has nothing to do with my being right or you being a general .

~kop
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I considered a microwave oven magnetron and a 4' dish as a drone-killer. The ERP would be on the order of a hundred thousand watts or so. ~anon

November 28, 2018, 09:16:04 AM
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