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Author Topic: W4RTT Horrible Purchase Experience  (Read 35628 times)

Posts: 139

« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2017, 10:55:29 AM »

Is not like in the past when hams sold their own used equipment. You went to their house and tried it out. Surprisingly how honest most people are when you know where they live and can hop in your car and grab them by the neck.  I have noticed that many hams are now in the business of buying and selling used gear as you can tell when some write that it was from an estate sale. More and more of these estate re-sellers are popping up daily. If you buy used old equipment to re-sell from a relative of a dead person, said relative does not have clue what they are selling. I see the same people listing dozens of ads day after day after day. Specially on qth.

These days you also have the eBay mentality. It appears that it works as it should. I worked 2 years ago. Last time I used it it was fine. It lights up when I turn it on. It receives fine (but is a transceiver). I looked inside and every seems to be fine. I can go on forever.

Finally as someone already mentioned, no PayPal, pass on the deal.

Posts: 54

« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2017, 11:55:41 AM »

What a shame. 

I've bought a LOT of stuff using eBay, and maybe 1% of my purchases were problematic.  In all cases, either the seller or eBay fixed the problem.   eBay is pretty much COMPLETELY on the side of the buyer.  As a buyer that gives me some confidence.  As a seller, if I ever sell anything, I will make sure that I fully describe the item, it's physical and electrical condition, and take all the pictures I can. 

Based on some of the horror stories I've read lately, I would NEVER EVER again send anyone a money order.  If they won't take PayPal, then something is amiss.  It's too easy to set up an account for someone not to take advantage of it.  As a backup safety net, only use a credit card to pay through PayPal - don't use your bank account.

I hope the OP can get the rig repaired - it may be an easy fix for someone with the necessary tools and skills.

Posts: 377

« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2017, 02:17:32 PM »

The boards in the R8500 are surface mount micro components.  Even Icom, when they serviced these units, replaced the boards so this is not something that can be repaired without a board replacement.

The reason for replacing boards as opposed to servicing the board is cost. When you consider
the bench time is $100.00 an hour and heap on keeping up a viable surface mount work station
plus finding or building fixtures for the board, then swapping a board makes sense. When the board
nor a substitute is no longer available then finding a shop outside an urban area with reduced
labor rates and highly skilled service tech becomes your next viable option.

A qualified tech can with proper equipment locate the defective part, use rework gear to remove
the defective part and replace it. It is not impossible, it just requires a different skill set than a
Weller 100 watt gun and Simpson 260.

If their is not someone to holds funds in escrow then it is time to pick up and test the gear before
payment. Sorry but the small percentage of people engaging unscrupulous practices are much to
prolific in their activity to make distant sales practical. Even with Paypal many know the boundary
conditions which will trigger action by any safety net such as Paypal etc and work the system to
the limit. Ham or not, people are people where ever you go and every place has opportunistic
individuals looking for those who trust.
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