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Author Topic: Xiegu X5105  (Read 21289 times)
KENNETH
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2018, 06:06:30 AM »

Xiegu X5105 reviews have been coming up on youtube.  long term reliability I could not find tho.
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KU3X
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2018, 01:01:08 PM »

It was posted that if you pull the power cable out of the radio while transmitting the radio will fail. Not so.

The video shows the radio won't fail. I am not suggesting you yank the DC power cable out, but there's not need to worry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyfNIDsM6mU

Barry
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UR5FKT
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2018, 02:08:11 AM »

Dear friends!
Excursion to XieGu factory in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_izluyKEJ0
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PU2OZT
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2018, 03:02:54 AM »

Dear friends!
Excursion to XieGu factory in China

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  light-years away from German's Hilberling assembly line

Oliver
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KU3X
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2018, 04:27:12 AM »

Dear friends!
Excursion to XieGu factory in China

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  light-years away from German's Hilberling assembly line

Oliver

And how many people can afford to buy a Hilberling ?
Barry
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KL7KN
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2018, 08:06:07 AM »

Interesting tour of the FActory for the Xiegu X5105 OUTDOOR VERSION.a

Reminds me of the MFJ Factory.   Seems if nothing else, shows just how low volume the ham market is in fact.

Thanks for posting the video!
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AC4RD
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2018, 07:19:58 AM »

REALLY   >>>>"I have read the tea leaf's  and it says "poor receiver, and poor transmitter  in the forest" Sounds like more dumb talk to me !  What facts do you have to back up that statement?

He *said* he read the "tea leaf's."  What more do you need?      Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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K8AXW
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2018, 09:47:24 AM »

I imagine Bill Gates "start-up" garage looked something like this. Look where he is now.
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A Pessimist is Never Disappointed!
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2018, 01:43:05 PM »

I have read the tea leaf's  and it says "poor receiver, and poor transmitter  in the forest"

I think many of the QRP designers miss the potential of these QRP radios. These days with LDMOS amplifiers that can be driven with 5 watts or less giving us a compact 1.5kw station. The poor performance  of these low power radios is denying the makers sales because nobody would dare connect such poor performing radios to their main station antennas mainly due to the lack of receiver and transmitter performance.

These comments apply equally to the Elecraft line, which have generally excellent receiver performance but whose transmitter performance would be be unacceptable to feed into a 1.5kw solid state amplifier.

 QRP radio is more of term  that is associated with cheap and nasty rather than  being a low powered high performance radio. There is no reason whatsoever  why a QRP radio should  not match the best top of the range radios in both RX and TX performance. In the case of transmitter performance engineering a 5 or 10 watt super clean transmitter with high efficiency is even easier.

The Chinese have the advantage of economy of scale and economical manufacturing costs, however if they dont want to invest in RX and TX performance they might as well not produce these radios because they will always considered be crap thats less than useful. You get the feeling that all that they about is  making money and turning out the best crap that they can rather than come up with true engineered solution rather than another copy cat radio that is just as useless as the last crap radio.


How 'bout those Mountain Toppers? Designed by that denizen of the Northeast woods and the Appalachian Trail, Steve Weber, KD1JV, of ATS3 fame. Google "LNR Precision" for the skinny on them.

I have none of the three, as I am self-limiting my discretionary spending. I can only wish....

Ted, KX4OM
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WB8VLC
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2018, 09:05:08 AM »

Even if MFJ included a solder iron, solder, other required tools to let the purchasers fix their poor soldering along with a 2 to 400 dollar rebate,  I'd still go for an ELECRAFT.
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KU3X
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2018, 12:13:31 PM »

Even if MFJ included a solder iron, solder, other required tools to let the purchasers fix their poor soldering along with a 2 to 400 dollar rebate,  I'd still go for an ELECRAFT.

Elecraft is a great choice but sells for a lot more $$$.  Not everybody is in the position to put out big bucks for a QRP radio. And.....MFJ is not the manufacture.
MFJ just sells them and fixes them.

Barry
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K7UQ
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2019, 06:48:38 PM »

My Flex 1500 is in the process of biting the dust.  I have a great Ten Tec 418 100 watt linear amp just waiting for something to drive it.  There are a lot of features of
the Xiegu X5105 that looks interesting for the price point,  i will not buy one until I can read more reviews of receiver performance.  As I understand, the SDR features are only available on the audio chain.  It a complete receiver test is made and the results are favorable, I may buy one.  To get the Elecraft KX2 with similar feature is another $300.00 or more.  Unfortunately 3 bills is a lot of money for me.
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Harvey K7UQ
 
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K0UA
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2019, 05:38:56 PM »

From what I can see by watching several reviews, some from some pretty savvy guys, the little rigs seems to offer a bunch of features at a fairly reasonable price point.  Could it be made better for less money?  Probably so, and probably will. This is a fairly new rig, and more upgrades will likely come out of this factory.  We will see what things look like in a couple of years. But it looks like a good start so far.

At least there is no horrible disappointment that Yaesu did with the 818. Bring out a "new" rig with almost all of the same features of the rig it replaces.  Yes the 817 was a great little rig when it came out, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and still is, but it sure is long in the tooth. We all expected good things and much much more and eagerly awaited the 818.

 Wow! what a let down.  Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Yeah, it puts out 6 watts.  Big deal, you can do that easily with the 817, sure it comes with the tcxo.. yep, can do that with the 817, It has a bigger NICAD battery.  big whoop NOT a lithium and a bms built in...

Anyway the Xiegu is a fresh face and we shall see how she plays.
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73  James K0UA
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2019, 06:52:35 AM »

So many awesome 5w CW QRP kits could be purchased and built for a fraction of this price!  And perhaps use the extra dollars to fully equip a test bench with scope, soldering station, power supply, etc.  (BTW, SSB is next to useless at 5w...)

Just sayin'   

73  Roll Eyes

 
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N4OI
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2019, 07:28:53 AM »

Post script:
$90 ?
KX2  $749.95
ATU option $179.95
LiPo battery $59.95 (this does not include the charge which cost more)
Hand mic  $59.95
Total: $1049.80
That is a $379.85 difference, a far cry from $90.
Now you are comparing apples to apples.
All of the above KX2 options come with the X5105 at no extra cost.
Barry

All true.  But that's the beauty of Elecraft -- you can choose to not buy the options.  For example, most QRP'ers already have a pile of little external ATUs if needed (why waste watts on a non-resonant wire?)...  And same goes for compact batteries such as the lightweight Bolt packs, and goodness, do QRP'ers even use microphones?

Just sayin'

73  Roll Eyes 
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