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Author Topic: Flagrant Violations in Amatuer Radio  (Read 3243 times)
KE8HAG
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« on: April 03, 2018, 12:57:07 PM »

I'm pretty new to Amateur Radio and have noticed appalling conduct and FCC violations, mainly in the 40m band (7.200 Mhz). I couldn't believe what I was hearing. There were unknown operators ( no call sign given ) saying they were in the states of NC, SC, TN, KY. Using strong obscene language, racial slurs and comments, political innuendos, threats of various kinds, disruptive transmissions, splashing over into nearby frequencies and other things that are not a reflection of what is considered a good Amateur Radio operator.

I've mentioned this disturbing conduct to some local ham operators and no one seems to care. They just shake their heads in discuss and tell me there's nothing you can do about it or if I don't like what I hear, change the frequency. Some of them blame the FCC for removing the requirement of the CW code.

From what I've been told, filing a complaint to the FCC about this kind of stuff is fruitless, nothing will be done about it. That Amateur Radio is going the way of the Citizens Band. Very sad.

Well. I don't understand. Why doesn't the FCC do anything about it? Why doesn't the Amateur Radio Operators step in and reinforce the law and conduct? Just who stops renegade operators from creating havoc in amateur bands? What can I do to help turn this trend around?

Concerned operator...Listening.

KE8HAG
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N4UM
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 01:27:01 PM »

Go on CW.  It's not that there are no jerks on CW,  it's just harder to be a jerk on CW than SSB. 

I think the FCC feels that so long as hams stay within their allocated frequencies their bad behavior affects only other hams.  I think the FCC probably feels they have more important things to do than watch over a bunch of misbehaving malcontents exercising what they consider to be their First Amendment rights. 

These jerks act the way they do to get attention.  Ignore them.  Don 't give them what they want.
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WZ7U
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 01:44:58 PM »

Must  be a new month. A re-dux of the same topics
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N8YX
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 01:45:48 PM »

14.3137.200?

Ain't nevah been done befo. Evah!

Riley, 'ZDH used to encourage folks to spin the wheel (so to say) if they found something on the air to be disagreeable. Sage advice then; sage advice today.

Anyways...three pages, two timeouts, one ban and one thread lock. GO!
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K0UA
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 02:19:00 PM »

To the Original Poster:  We can appreciate your concern and dismay. But since the FCC have practically abandoned enforcement in the Amateur radio bands, there is very little that you or I can do about this other than spin the knob and enjoy life on other frequency's/modes.   You will find none of this on FT8 mode. I have seen very little on CW (except to jammers on a pile up on the DX's frequency). It appears psychopaths need to actually speak to make themselves happy.

 Of course as others have pointed out, this has happened before, where a frequency has been overrun with cockroaches.  the 14.313 reference above would be a prime example.  I gather you are new enough to have never heard Karol Madera VE7KFM on the air on that frequency.  And you are a better person for not every hearing that lunatic. The cockroaches on 7.200 can't even hold a candle to his darkness.

We wish you well, and we DO understand, but there is very little anyone can actually do.

73  James K0UA
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 02:36:07 PM »

To the OP: This link may provide you some useful information. http://www.arrl.org/amateur-auxiliary
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 02:43:55 PM »

http://ve7kfm.com/

http://ve7kfm.com/n0wop.html


lots of reading and insight here
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73  James K0UA
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 04:23:19 PM »

Again blaming cb .Cb did not cause this just saying. It is not the frequency it is the malcontents that migrate there. Build the wall or as pink floyd would say.

https://youtu.be/5IpYOF4Hi6Q

If you think about it.. If this is the only place the malcontents go it is good they all hang out at one place instead of infecting all of H.F. frequencies.Just a thought.

Have a Great Day Be Safe..1973ss
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N0YXB
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 04:26:45 PM »

What can I do to help turn this trend around?


What you can do is be one of the good guys. There are too many jerks in the world but they are the minority. You can report it to the FCC. That probably won't hurt in case someday they do decide to get involved, but don't expect satisfaction anytime soon.

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KM4AH
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 07:16:12 PM »

Maybe a psychiatrist could help hams with an uncontrollable urge to listen to 7.200
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2018, 09:32:11 PM »

Again blaming cb .Cb did not cause this just saying. It is not the frequency it is the malcontents that migrate there. Build the wall or as pink floyd would say.

https://youtu.be/5IpYOF4Hi6Q

If you think about it.. If this is the only place the malcontents go it is good they all hang out at one place instead of infecting all of H.F. frequencies.Just a thought.

Have a Great Day Be Safe..1973ss

The CB comment is ridiculous as usual, but the second comment is spot-on, my friend!
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K8AXW
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 11:00:48 PM »

Just a sign of the times!  Look at everything....TV, schools, our government....
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2018, 01:51:46 AM »

Just a sign of the times!  Look at everything....TV, schools, our government....

Would probably hear the same thing (minus TV, substitute plays) 200 years ago. Some people prefer to focus on the negative.

TV, don't own one, school was nothing more than busy-work, dragged out to kill hours, upon hours.

Government, due to the actions of some individuals, and court rulings. Has made some positive changes.

Illinois has had a process for Concealed Carry licensing for 4 years, a shall issue state.
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W4AMP
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2018, 02:11:29 AM »

They are supposed to have the same rights as the rest of us. Grin
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W4AMP
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2018, 02:19:30 AM »

Maybe a psychiatrist could help hams with an uncontrollable urge to listen to 7.200

It's called heterosexuality.  Cheesy
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