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Author Topic: Arrgh! WSJT-X JTDX fldigi D-star WINMOR SHARES HRD N1MM DigiPan Ai  (Read 4016 times)
KI7LFD
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« on: April 15, 2018, 06:55:31 PM »

I'm in a bit of mental overload.  The digital part of Ham Radio is giving me heart burn.  I'm trying to make sense of  the abbreviations and the interrelationship of of all this bits of code and features.  Example: How is WSJT-X related to N1MM or HDR ?
Is Digipan part of JTDX ?  Who does what and works with who else?  Does D-star work with JTDX ?

Is there a place I can find how all these bits are related to each other ?    A flowchart perhaps.   Who needs what to work correctly ?

It may seem like a stupid set of questions, however, it is a bit confusing.

Regards,
Rich  (KI7LFD)
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K0UA
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2018, 08:30:18 AM »

I'm in a bit of mental overload.  The digital part of Ham Radio is giving me heart burn.  I'm trying to make sense of  the abbreviations and the interrelationship of of all this bits of code and features.  Example: How is WSJT-X related to N1MM or HDR ?
Is Digipan part of JTDX ?  Who does what and works with who else?  Does D-star work with JTDX ?

Is there a place I can find how all these bits are related to each other ?    A flowchart perhaps.   Who needs what to work correctly ?

It may seem like a stupid set of questions, however, it is a bit confusing.

Regards,
Rich  (KI7LFD)

None of them are really interdependent.  Send me an email, give me your phone number, and I will go over it all with you. If you like to load teamviewer 13 I will let you look at my computer and see these things in operation on the air and it will all become very much clearer to you.  You can load WSJT-x, FLdigi and N1MM+ if you like and I can help you set them up using teamviewer 13.

 Digipan is a very old, psk31 program, and is not needed in today's world. 

HRD or "Ham Radio Deluxe" is a good program, but currently is not free and while very comprehensive, it might be a bit daunting for a begineer.  But if you pay for it, there is help available.  I use the older free version and know it quite well also.  JTDX is an alternative to WSJT-x with some more choices.  Best load WSJT-x for starting out.

 FLdigi will do just as many digital modes as HRD and it is free. It is not as comprehensive as HRD as HRD is an integrated program for many other station functions.

 N1MM+ is a contesting/logging/duping program and is without peer.  It is simply the most powerful and best program of its kind. However it is not exactly easy to set up, and it takes time to learn how to use it. But is is very powerful.

 There is no question in my mind, and I have helped dozens of beginners, that the easiest thing to get going and learn is WSJT-x.

Let me know if you want help.   73  James K0UA
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 06:18:38 AM »

Rich, I am about 1yr ahead of you. I know how u feel. I was lost too, but my interest kept me going. Just this week I discovered wspr. All the info is out there, it takes awhile to connect the dots. U can always ask a blog for help!  I recommend wsjt-x to start with. Just find ur rig under configuration and ur good to go. U can email me anytime.....Dave wb2bwc.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 04:54:46 PM »

Not everything but some organization of the things you listed.

Digital Voice modes: D-Star, DMR, Allstar, System Fusion
Digital Data modes: JT-65, JT-9, FT-8, PSK31, Olivia

Software for Digital data modes: WSJT-X, JTDX, fldigi
Software for general logging: HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe), DX Labs, N3FJP, Log4OM
Software for contest logging: N1MM. (NOT designed for general logging)

None od the above are complete lists, just small samples.

General info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amateur_radio_modes

What are your radio capabilities? If you have HF, you can do all the data modes. I would pick one and work on getting it to work. For example, I started by just focusing on PSK31. Once I made contacts on PSK31 and understood how, I then switched to JT65 and worked on that for a while.

Do you have a general program for keeping track of your contact logs? I would start there also. N3FJP, HRD, DX Labs, Log4OM or some other General Ham Radio logging program. I use N3FJP which is a paid for program.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 08:43:00 PM »

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Software for contest logging: N1MM. (NOT designed for general logging)

Um.. I use N1MM+ for all my general logging on cw, ssb, psk/olivia and Rtty.

set up the DX "contest" from the contest menu.  It is for general logging. It works well,  Bandmaps, Dx spotting (telnet) even a spectrum scope and waterfall for some rigs (like my 7300 for instance).  Pretty full featured program with log, and duping to know what stations you have worked before,  Quick export of ADIF from the log to upload with TQSL,  Takes less than 20 seconds.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2018, 04:26:55 AM »

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Software for contest logging: N1MM. (NOT designed for general logging)

Um.. I use N1MM+ for all my general logging on cw, ssb, psk/olivia and Rtty.

set up the DX "contest" from the contest menu.  It is for general logging. It works well,  Bandmaps, Dx spotting (telnet) even a spectrum scope and waterfall for some rigs (like my 7300 for instance).  Pretty full featured program with log, and duping to know what stations you have worked before,  Quick export of ADIF from the log to upload with TQSL,  Takes less than 20 seconds.

Yea I know some people do. I was just pointing out that it’s design is for contesting and even says that on it’s web page. But that doesn’t mean you can’t use it for general logging.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2018, 11:36:21 AM »

I'm in a bit of mental overload.  The digital part of Ham Radio is giving me heart burn.  I'm trying to make sense of  the abbreviations and the interrelationship of of all this bits of code and features.  Example: How is WSJT-X related to N1MM or HDR ?
Is Digipan part of JTDX ?  Who does what and works with who else?  Does D-star work with JTDX ?

Is there a place I can find how all these bits are related to each other ?    A flowchart perhaps.   Who needs what to work correctly ?

It may seem like a stupid set of questions, however, it is a bit confusing.

Regards,
Rich  (KI7LFD)

I know what you are talking about. I know computing, have been building computers for lots of years, etc., but when it comes to the computerization of the hobby I just have a huge mental block. I've been working on it for awhile and I'm almost to the point where I want to learn HRD and install some SDR software and all that s%^t. I had a dream recently wherein I was rockbound on the Novice Band of yore, was ragchewing on CW, each of us on different frequencies, no worries about drift, no zero beating, no computer.. nobody able to jam both of us at the same time.. it was a good dream!
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 08:47:49 PM »

I'm in a bit of mental overload.  The digital part of Ham Radio is giving me heart burn.  I'm trying to make sense of  the abbreviations and the interrelationship of of all this bits of code and features.  Example: How is WSJT-X related to N1MM or HDR ?
Is Digipan part of JTDX ?  Who does what and works with who else?  Does D-star work with JTDX ?

Is there a place I can find how all these bits are related to each other ?    A flowchart perhaps.   Who needs what to work correctly ?

It may seem like a stupid set of questions, however, it is a bit confusing.

Regards,
Rich  (KI7LFD)

I know what you are talking about. I know computing, have been building computers for lots of years, etc., but when it comes to the computerization of the hobby I just have a huge mental block. I've been working on it for awhile and I'm almost to the point where I want to learn HRD and install some SDR software and all that s%^t. I had a dream recently wherein I was rockbound on the Novice Band of yore, was ragchewing on CW, each of us on different frequencies, no worries about drift, no zero beating, no computer.. nobody able to jam both of us at the same time.. it was a good dream!


Those days of "Christmas past" are gone my friend.  You can only re-create them one magic night of the year.   They call it Straight Key Night.  .. Smiley
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K0UA
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 08:52:46 PM »

Look guys, sure there are a lot of changes, and yeah some of it seems a little daunting, but remember, "how do you eat an elephant?"  One little bite at a time.  And after you have eaten the elephant, try to keep up.  Try to stay in the loop.  Once something new comes along, try to find out about it and see what it is all about.  When someone spouts off a new acronym, ask "what does that mean?", "How does that work", "why would I want to do that?"

I am 63, if I can learn some of this crap, you guys can too. I will help you and try to teach you what I can.  I sure don't have all the answers, but I am an old blind hog, and I can find an acorn now and then.  Smiley

73  James K0UA
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