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Author Topic: Cold 807s  (Read 3917 times)
G3RZP
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« on: May 24, 2018, 11:32:15 AM »

Does anyone know when and where and why the term 'cold 807' got applied to a cold beer?

It is a very 'USA term'.....Shows affection for a VERY popular transmitting tube, though!
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N8YX
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2018, 11:49:37 AM »

Perhaps related to tube envelope color?
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WZ7U
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2018, 12:37:12 PM »

Ask Otis, the resident drunk.  He would know
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 01:56:36 PM »

My guess is that an 807 tube roughly (very roughly) resembles a beer bottle (of days past) in shape & size...
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2018, 02:52:20 PM »

Some geeky ham expression used by ship board radio operators during WWII who were bottled up for hours seeking some escape with a cold brew. They were probably Yanks cause Brits don't like cold beer...perhaps because refrigeration was a standard in the US while in Britain it was a luxury.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2018, 03:26:19 PM »

perhaps because refrigeration was a standard in the US while in Britain it was a luxury.

Like dental care?  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 08:44:46 PM »

I wish that I had more information, but when I asked that in 1970'ish as a lad, I was told that it's because the 807 is a large glass 'bottle' with a cap on it,

More (fun) specifications here >  http://www.qsl.net/kb7rgg/radio/807/807specs.html

I do remember a slang term (perhaps local) of calling larger power and/or rectifier tubes which produced a notable glow; "fire bottles".

73 from Idaho - USA

Ray
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K0UA
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2018, 09:35:00 PM »

From Wikipedia:

"Many hams found multiple paralleled 807s a cheaper alternative to a single larger valve, such as a single 813, as many military surplus 807s became available cheaply after World War II. In Australia 807s are affectionately referred to as "stubbies" because they are almost as ubiquitous as that common Australian beer container."
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2018, 10:35:38 PM »

From what I remember from decades ago, the answer by MKC is right on the money.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2018, 04:27:25 AM »

I ask because at Hamvention last weekend, Dave, WJ2O, gave away some beer glasses with a nice picture of an RCA 807 on one side and an exhortation to have a cold 807 on the other!

The term is not too applicable in the UK, where a pint is 20 fluid ounces, not a mean 16!

KC2QYM,

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They were probably Yanks cause Brits don't like cold beer...

That's because our beers have taste and so don't have to be refrigerated to get the taste out of them! But remember why there is IPA.....
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2018, 05:54:24 AM »

In Australia I've frequently heard the term "gassy" (but never "cold") 807 for a bottle of beer.

But all our beer is cold, for obvious reasons.  

73, Peter
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 07:59:17 AM »

...But remember why there is IPA.....
Because hop-farming subsidies are a thing?
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W7ASA
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 07:18:12 PM »

RZP de ASA BT

"That's because our beers have taste ..."

HA! too true Speckled Hen -vs- that yellow water from Golden, Colorado = no contest, which is why I homebrew (not just for radios, anymore ;-)

73 de Ray
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2018, 02:07:09 AM »

IPA (India Pale Ale) was brewed with a high alcohol and hop content so that it would keep on the lengthy sea voyage to India round the Cape of Good Hope. It was originally intended for the troops in India in the 18th century, and only became popular in the UK after a shipwreck on the Goodwin Sands off Kent in the early 1800s when some cases of it came ashore.

'ASA, have you tried 'Arrogant Bastard' from Stone's North county San Diego brewery? My San Diego colleagues always said it was named after me! But I found it reasonable....
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2018, 10:57:49 AM »

I ask because at Hamvention last weekend, Dave, WJ2O, gave away some beer glasses with a nice picture of an RCA 807 on one side and an exhortation to have a cold 807 on the other!

The term is not too applicable in the UK, where a pint is 20 fluid ounces, not a mean 16!

KC2QYM,

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They were probably Yanks cause Brits don't like cold beer...

That's because our beers have taste and so don't have to be refrigerated to get the taste out of them! But remember why there is IPA.....

The only good thing to come out of colonialism?  Tongue
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