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Author Topic: Where did all the SSB Ops go?  (Read 3762 times)
W6VZV
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« on: July 29, 2018, 01:23:51 PM »

I've been a ham since 1968 -- passed my Novice in November 1967 and the ticket came in Feb. 1968.  Got my General in June 1968.  During all this time, the SSB bands have always been pretty full excepting the upper bands 10 and 15 during the Solar Minimums.  Nowadays 20M SSB is a desert, with maybe 5 or a few more signals on the band.  Where is everybody?  I get it that we all love FT8 during the Solar Minimum and that it is (along with CW) maybe the most efficient DXing band.  But doesn't anyone just want to talk on the air?  You know, ragchew?  What gives these days?  Will SSB activity pick up when the band conditions improve?

de Roger W6VZV
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NE1U
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 02:35:20 PM »

I know the feeling. I have wondered how a WAS might work out requiring 10 minute QSOs.
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KS2G
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 06:45:34 PM »

Nowadays 20M SSB is a desert, with maybe 5 or a few more signals on the band ... Will SSB activity pick up when the band conditions improve?


Times change.
Casual (e.g. ragchew) QSOs are less popular than in years past.
Bottom-of-the-cycle propagation certainly discourages activity.
But contests and DXpeditions still bring out LOTS of activity.

Do you call CQ?
Deserted as 20M SSB may appear, you can almost always get an answer.  Wink

And, yes, when propagation improves a few years from now, so will the level of activity.   Smiley
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N9AOP
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 07:04:39 PM »

20 M might be slow but as soon as some rare DX shows up, the band lights up.
Art
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W8LGZ
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 08:21:16 PM »

I wouldn't say we "all" love FT-8. I, for one, can't stand it. The CW sub-bands seem pretty active though.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2018, 10:27:00 PM »

I enjoy rag chewing. Wow.
Everyone I was on this last weekend. Enjoying.
I spoke to Japan on 7.212 . Great conversations .
Enjoy Life.  BE Safe. 73s or as they say in Japan
Hikuu.

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K5NOK
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2018, 02:10:55 PM »

I enjoy rag chewing. Wow.
Everyone I was on this last weekend. Enjoying.
I spoke to Japan on 7.212 . Great conversations .
Enjoy Life.  BE Safe. 73s or as they say in Japan
Hikuu.



Then you get double bonus contact points because you were speaking to an illegal operator.

Japan only has operating privileges from 7000 Khz to 7200 Khz.

See Japanese band plan.
http://www.jarl.org/English/6_Band_Plan/JapaneseAmateurBandplans20150105.pdf

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W6VZV
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2018, 02:40:09 PM »

I enjoy rag chewing. Wow.
Everyone I was on this last weekend. Enjoying.
I spoke to Japan on 7.212 . Great conversations .
Enjoy Life.  BE Safe. 73s or as they say in Japan
Hikuu.




Then you get double bonus contact points because you were speaking to an illegal operator.
Not uncommon for foreign ops to operate out of band, although I cannot speak to how often our JA friends do it.
I have had some terrific QSOs with Japan on SSB, especially on 15M.  Miss doing that.  Hope conditions and activity levels improve before too long.

de Roger W6VZV

Japan only has operating privileges from 7000 Khz to 7200 Khz.

See Japanese band plan.
http://www.jarl.org/English/6_Band_Plan/JapaneseAmateurBandplans20150105.pdf


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WZ7U
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2018, 03:20:49 PM »

I enjoy rag chewing. Wow.
Everyone I was on this last weekend. Enjoying.
I spoke to Japan on 7.212 . Great conversations .
Enjoy Life.  BE Safe. 73s or as they say in Japan
Hikuu.


Didn't want to talk to Oregon, huh? OK. I see how it is.
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K0UA
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 03:54:46 PM »

I've been a ham since 1968 -- passed my Novice in November 1967 and the ticket came in Feb. 1968.  Got my General in June 1968.  During all this time, the SSB bands have always been pretty full excepting the upper bands 10 and 15 during the Solar Minimums.  Nowadays 20M SSB is a desert, with maybe 5 or a few more signals on the band.  Where is everybody?  I get it that we all love FT8 during the Solar Minimum and that it is (along with CW) maybe the most efficient DXing band.  But doesn't anyone just want to talk on the air?  You know, ragchew?  What gives these days?  Will SSB activity pick up when the band conditions improve?

de Roger W6VZV

In my opinion, it is because band conditions have been poor lately for SSB voice. Most of us are hanging on the FT8 frequencies.  When conditions improve, there will be much more SSB activity.  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2018, 04:24:16 PM »

They went the same place all the CW ops went...  A lot of them are doing digital, with FT8 being the mode De jure. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2018, 04:32:40 PM »

I was talking to Japan on what they call reflective skip. Jeezz.
Everyone be Positive. Be safe 73s
Hikuuu
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KM4AH
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2018, 04:52:38 PM »

A very large portion simply died .
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WZ7U
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2018, 06:37:32 PM »

I was talking to Japan on what they call reflective skip. Jeezz.
Everyone be Positive. Be safe 73s
Hikuuu
Reflect your butt into NW Oregon Charles!
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2018, 09:59:38 PM »

I will try this weekend ok.
Everyone try to be positive.
Be Safe and have a Blessed day and be rhankful.73s
Hikuuu
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