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Author Topic: Term ham leaves negative impression  (Read 7114 times)
BURGERLOVER65
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« on: November 23, 2018, 03:15:46 PM »

I never tell anyone I am a ham because it leaves a negative impression. First of all people will suspect you will interfere with their television reception if you live nearby. Second the word implies a bent at best or a compulsion at worst and a non professional compulsion like a eccentric relative or neighbor who moved years ago unexpectedly

I just tell people I am a technician, engineer and will be down in the Covar Valley on a job.

I don't mention radio whatsoever because that opens up another can of worms....illegal operation, pirate radio, religious fanatic, political nut.

Never post as a ham online so everyone knows your home address. Think most hams are nice? You must be a newbie or deceived. Friends are only people you've know very well for a long time.

You will save much grief if you follow my advice.

Dave
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N5INP
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2018, 03:46:52 PM »

Never post as a ham online so everyone knows your home address.

Here we go again!  Cheesy
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N0YXB
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2018, 04:12:19 PM »

I never tell anyone I am a ham...

And the ham community thanks you.
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AB4ZT
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2018, 04:57:27 PM »

I never tell anyone I am a ham...

And the ham community thanks you.

Touchdown!
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2018, 05:06:58 PM »

I tell everyone... I don't care what they think or how dirty my CB amp is
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2018, 05:59:59 PM »

I never tell anyone I am a ham because it leaves a negative impression. First of all people will suspect you will interfere with their television reception if you live nearby. Second the word implies a bent at best or a compulsion at worst and a non professional compulsion like a eccentric relative or neighbor who moved years ago unexpectedly

I just tell people I am a technician, engineer and will be down in the Covar Valley on a job.

I don't mention radio whatsoever because that opens up another can of worms....illegal operation, pirate radio, religious fanatic, political nut.

Never post as a ham online so everyone knows your home address. Think most hams are nice? You must be a newbie or deceived. Friends are only people you've know very well for a long time.

You will save much grief if you follow my advice.

Dave
Electrical engineer

We know two things for sure,  well maybe 3 things.  1: You are not a ham or you would have a call-sign
2:  You really really love burgers
3:  Your paranoid as all getout.   In other words, "Lighten up Francis"*

*Appologies to Warren Oates in Stripes.
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73  James K0UA
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N8AUC
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2018, 06:25:08 PM »


Never post as a ham online so everyone knows your home address. Think most hams are nice? You must be a newbie or deceived. Friends are only people you've know very well for a long time.

You will save much grief if you follow my advice.

Well, what this really hints at is that Dave is a bit anti social.
True, friends are people you know very well, for a long time.
Should be an "or" in there.

My direct long term (40 years) experience is that most hams ARE nice people, who usually
have a genuine desire to help and be helpful. I learned this by going out to meet other hams
and get to know them. The most common venue for doing this is to get involved with a
local club. It might be a "breakfast bunch" who gets together on a Saturday morning.
And I don't mean just show up at a few meetings, and grouse about how things aren't
how you like them. I mean attend meetings, participate in the events, help out at Field
Day and the club picnic. Stick around for the "meeting after the meeting", whether it's
a shoot the bull session out in the parking lot afterwards, or coffee and donuts, or
maybe even going out for a bite to eat with the group after the meeting.

Over the past 40 years, I've made a LOT of friends via ham radio. Some of those
friendships have even led to employment opportunities. But hams are generally not
that outgoing socially. You have to go to them, because they aren't going to come
to you, usually due to shyness. Especially if you're new. Oh, some can be plenty
bold with a microphone in their hands, but in person, not so much. Once you make
the effort though, it becomes totally worth it.

Now when it comes to dealing with neighbors, etc. I've never had a problem there
either. You will save yourself much grief if you just treat other people the way you
want to be treated. You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
Be nice to people, and they'll usually be nice to you. I've never had anyone complain
about the antennas in my back yard, or on my house. I've had a few ask about them.
But once I explain what it's for and what we do with them, they usually walk away
glad that they're up there. But never speak to a neighbor in a condescending manner.
Even if you really ARE way smarter than they are, it is generally a bad idea to point
it out to them. All that does is piss them off, and create an adversarial relationship
from which it is very difficult to recover.

Now that's just my experience over the years. Naturally, your mileage may vary.
It's kind of an attitude thing, and believe it or not, yours makes a huge difference.

73 de N8AUC
Eric
(I am an electrical engineer also!)
 
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K6BRN
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2018, 08:34:30 PM »

I've usually been treated well whe I tell people I'm a ham.

First, they look at me a little strange.

Then often ask, "Is that, like, CB?" (usually the older ones)

Often they develop a sad look on their faces.

Pat me on the head.

And sometimes give me a biscuit.

I like the biscuit.

I wish they gave me biscuits at work.

I'm an engineer, too.  We work for food.

(Apologies to all - Just could NOT help myself!)
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G3RZP
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2018, 03:08:37 AM »

A few years back, I was in a bar at Washington National airport. The guy beside me was chatting and asked where I was going and I told him Dayton. He asked 'what the hell is there in Dayton worth going for? I told him I was going for the Hamvention, the biggest ham radio event in the US. The bar maid broke in and said that 'radio hams are really marvellous people'. Apparently when she was about 8 years old and living in the US Virgin Islands, a hurricane came and there was no power or communications. Her dad heard about a radio amateur who had a generator and could send messages to the mainland and they went to his house. They were only allowed a 25 word telegram, but they heard afterwards from her uncle that he had a long distance 'phone call from somebody he had never heard of who lived three states away, relaying the message. Almost 50 years later, she had never forgotten this and still felt radio amateurs were marvellous people........
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WI8P
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2018, 03:27:53 AM »

Never post as a ham online so everyone knows your home address.

I'm glad I don't live my life with that kind of paranoia. Not only do I not hide my call sign online, my major ride has my sign as its license plate.  Maybe I'll get to talk to John Malkovich when he decides to stalk and assassinate me.

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K5LXP
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2018, 05:14:26 AM »

You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

Hams' hygiene issues attracts them too.

Mark K5LXP
Albuquerque, NM

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N5INP
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2018, 05:21:59 AM »

This is so funny though. As I said before - OK you can see a callsign (a set of symbols) on the internets and look up a name and address ... SO WHAT LOL.

I can do the same thing all day long by getting symbols from the street - it's called an address number. I can go to the taxing authority and get name after name after name  - as many as I want.

I could dig in most people's trash or recycling and get your name, electric company, water company, bank name, receipt showing how many drill bits you bought from Amazon last week. Sure you can shred all that but do most people? NO!

SO WHAT?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2018, 06:05:45 AM »

I can do the same thing all day long by getting symbols from the street - it's called an address number. I can go to the taxing authority and get name after name after name  - as many as I want.

You don't even need a street address. You can go onto the county web site and see all of the properties in the vicinity. From there you can get the owners name, address (sometimes this is different then the physical address), what they paid for the property, tax information, check for variances and permits, etc.. Lots of information is available.
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N5INP
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2018, 08:17:04 AM »

You don't even need a street address. You can go onto the county web site and see all of the properties in the vicinity. From there you can get the owners name, address (sometimes this is different then the physical address), what they paid for the property, tax information, check for variances and permits, etc.. Lots of information is available.


Right - but OMG!

DO NOT POST YOUR CALLSIGN ON THE EHAM FORUM!

Don't you know that criminal masterminds scour the forums looking for hams addresses so they can steal their antenna analyzer!
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WA2ONH
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2018, 10:02:03 AM »

From the VISUAL CAPITALIST site a recent article is noted below.
http://www.visualcapitalist.com/

Here’s What the Big Tech Companies Know About You
JEFF DESJARDINS on November 19, 2018
http://www.visualcapitalist.com/heres-what-the-big-tech-companies-know-about-you/

If you wish to maintain a very low profile, the worse thing to do is get a cell phone, use a Computer
and get on the Internet for interactions via social media forums and/or shop!

Let's be careful out there!
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73 de WA2ONH  <dit dit> ... Charlie
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