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N1CX
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« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2012, 10:50:21 AM »

Somehow ke2tr came off ignore.

What's laughable here is you seem to want to turn this into a size of your johnson contest. Pal it ain't about that. I CHOOSE to have a ts820. I enjoy it. I've owned HUNDREDS of hf radios in the last 35 years. Including High end stuff like ts850sat, ts950, 930's, multiple Icoms, and virtually every Heathkit ever made.

It ain't about the size of my Johnson trust me. It's about having fun. The fact that you seem to want to belittle me is even funnier. I got a 40 meter dipole right now is that supposed to be funny too? I've had more fun in the last few years with a tube radio barefoot and a dipole than I ever have in my life of ham radio.

I've owned a large contest station. I have built more stations than you've ever seen in your life including a 11 tower monster. I really could give a crap what you think or have to say.

Just because the arrl says it's legal don't make it right. And I've yet to see where the fcc has ruled it legal. No-one here has shown me...And I'm still waiting to hear about the illegal zoning issues of having large towers installed on a private property under the guise of personal use when they're charging people $5000 to use the station. Maybe this thread printed and forwarded to a few towns would open some eyes.

Back to ignore for you pal. Have a great New Year. Spend it talking to yourself some more. Smiley
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KE2TR
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« Reply #91 on: January 01, 2013, 08:14:01 PM »

You have to be the biggest dick head on this forum, number one I searched the net and found nothing about you or anything that you have built, I just love the small minded piss ants like you that BS all day long and the bottom line you have done nothing on building anything. Here is a link from one of the contest forum's from my buddy JP, oh BTW  I have friends, I don't think you do. http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/2001-09/msg00079.html
Plus if you search the net under W2A/W2AA, JP put a page of pic's together of my station I had ton's of fun with my friends, both building and OPing between 1994-2002. BTW in 1996/97/99 that little station place first in CQWW Phone Multi Single USA, the woods on the wall and in 98 we placed 5th Multi/Multi Phone SSB CQWW USA (The station was nor designed but we just wanted to see what it would do with six op's and three station setup. As far as my johnson is concerned that my wife's business and none of yours unless you hop the fence but I must say I don't sway that way. In 96 we used KF2ET, then W2A for the other three so it had nothing to do with my call being the spotlite, I really did not do it for my call to be in bold black letter's but it was about the most fun any of us from that group had with this hobby I have been in this hobby since 1968 so I have see all type's, played around with contesting since 1977 on and off but in 93 started to build my own station that would do some battle with some very large station's. Crewed with K2UU on W2HCW's re build of his bertha from the old telrex monobander's to 125MPH Plus M2 Monobander from 40-10mtrs, in the late 70ies I help build a station here on LI with all 6 element KLM big stickers, help KR2N put up lots of monobander's of two 120ft tower's and believe me there is more cause I did work with K2UU on and off for a couple of year's re doing  more than a few station's here on LI. So what have you done and you call the radio's you have had Hi End, you are a joke, Yes I may own a TS590 now cause it's got one hellova good receiver in it plus its a great bang for the buck but have owned FT1000D's,FT1000MP's,FT990,IC751A,IC746Pro,TS850,TS930,TS830,TS820,TS520's,TR4C,Drake C lines,KWM2,CX7A,IC765 to name a few but only one doggy Heathkit which was a HW100 which was my 1st SSB rig.
As far as you building some monster contest station well who's call or maybe you work for Matt KC1XX in which you are just a worker not the builder/designer, I knew you were full of crap cause you show nothing to back up your word's at all, nada,zip. BTW if you had a station together back in the late 90ies I bet you were one of the guy's I spanked all the time in the contest's back then, for some reason the old fart mentality like yours never likes the small well designed station's that do well or you think you are better than everyone else.
Happy New Year you big turkey, maybe I'll send you a tube of preparation H, you seem to need it!
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KE2TR
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« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2013, 11:26:52 AM »

I can see why N1CX is getting so pissed off, he runs a TS820 into a 20mtr dipole at 20ft! No wonder he is so crazed at a guy in a condo working DX he shouldn't be able to work from a big station but I gotta say if the ham who rent's the station can afford to do so, so be it. I know what it cost's to put a semi larger than average station together, not with Rohn 25/45G guyed tower's but a pair of hefty priced crank-up's, then there's the cable and grounding, rotor's, not even thinking about what's inside the shack as far as cost, then the local town permits. This guy is thinking about ham radio like he is back in the 1960ies. Then you consider what the cost of building a world class station which I am sure is way over $100K and that's just the antennas, not the property, house, and what's needed inside the shack for rigs, amp's, switching that will make it all work via the net so you look at all that for one site and I bet you over and above $500K and N1CX doesn't like that cause his simple minded idea's of what ham radio should be but that's in his own mind.
This is a different age we live in, remote station's have been in growing number's and I too one day might be stuck in a condo down south which will not allow antenna's, hell I would be the 1st one to sign up, God willing maybe own my own remote station at that time as well and hell if I could rent that I would cause I don't use the radio all day, let someone else use it but I'll be dammed after all my hard work someone is going to use it for free.
I think N1CX wants a supper station for free cause he is that cheap type of ham, doesn't want to pay for anything, who is he to put down the ham's who push the envelope with this hobby.
I have heard a number of guy's run remote station's, they all use there call then portable what ever district there in, if the own or rent the station doesn't bother me one bit as long as there having fun which is were N1CX losses the battle, he is way to busy bitching about what everyone else has and he doesn't.
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KE2TR
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« Reply #93 on: April 12, 2013, 04:07:00 PM »

Hey N1CX, did you get your new QST yet? Looks like they liked the idea of Remote Ham Radio allot! No full page add just a review that is like the they are giving the guy's doing this there blessing's but you still have your old way's to knock a great new idea. Must be hard getting old and being of old fart age and acting like it.
Jim
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KZ4USA
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« Reply #94 on: June 06, 2018, 08:35:54 AM »

Why don't they just get on the internet and talk to the guys if they are going to use the net to connect to these stations
and pay by the minute. Strange
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N1CX
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« Reply #95 on: June 07, 2018, 03:09:33 AM »

I just saw this and pissed my pants laughing. If you only knew.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Did I hurt your feelings because I said something bad about your best friends and their illegal business evading real estate taxes? Aw buttercup.......
hahahahahahaha PLEASE.  Go away TROLL. Back to ignore. I changed my email address on eham otherwise I would have missed this little morsel.  WHAT A TOOL.

I don't have to spout out what stations I've built in my life or my contesting accomplishments. YCCC members know who I am. Those who I have built stations for know what I do. I don't need fame or glory. And I don't work for Matt. I'm sure he will laugh at this too. Hi Matt.




You have to be the biggest dick head on this forum, number one I searched the net and found nothing about you or anything that you have built, I just love the small minded piss ants like you that BS all day long and the bottom line you have done nothing on building anything. Here is a link from one of the contest forum's from my buddy JP, oh BTW  I have friends, I don't think you do. http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/2001-09/msg00079.html
Plus if you search the net under W2A/W2AA, JP put a page of pic's together of my station I had ton's of fun with my friends, both building and OPing between 1994-2002. BTW in 1996/97/99 that little station place first in CQWW Phone Multi Single USA, the woods on the wall and in 98 we placed 5th Multi/Multi Phone SSB CQWW USA (The station was nor designed but we just wanted to see what it would do with six op's and three station setup. As far as my johnson is concerned that my wife's business and none of yours unless you hop the fence but I must say I don't sway that way. In 96 we used KF2ET, then W2A for the other three so it had nothing to do with my call being the spotlite, I really did not do it for my call to be in bold black letter's but it was about the most fun any of us from that group had with this hobby I have been in this hobby since 1968 so I have see all type's, played around with contesting since 1977 on and off but in 93 started to build my own station that would do some battle with some very large station's. Crewed with K2UU on W2HCW's re build of his bertha from the old telrex monobander's to 125MPH Plus M2 Monobander from 40-10mtrs, in the late 70ies I help build a station here on LI with all 6 element KLM big stickers, help KR2N put up lots of monobander's of two 120ft tower's and believe me there is more cause I did work with K2UU on and off for a couple of year's re doing  more than a few station's here on LI. So what have you done and you call the radio's you have had Hi End, you are a joke, Yes I may own a TS590 now cause it's got one hellova good receiver in it plus its a great bang for the buck but have owned FT1000D's,FT1000MP's,FT990,IC751A,IC746Pro,TS850,TS930,TS830,TS820,TS520's,TR4C,Drake C lines,KWM2,CX7A,IC765 to name a few but only one doggy Heathkit which was a HW100 which was my 1st SSB rig.
As far as you building some monster contest station well who's call or maybe you work for Matt KC1XX in which you are just a worker not the builder/designer, I knew you were full of crap cause you show nothing to back up your word's at all, nada,zip. BTW if you had a station together back in the late 90ies I bet you were one of the guy's I spanked all the time in the contest's back then, for some reason the old fart mentality like yours never likes the small well designed station's that do well or you think you are better than everyone else.
Happy New Year you big turkey, maybe I'll send you a tube of preparation H, you seem to need it!
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N1CX
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« Reply #96 on: June 07, 2018, 03:12:24 AM »

183,000 views strong. Probably one of the largest threads on eham ever. Whoda thunk it. Stop n Shop will be having airtime on sale next week. $1.99/lb

ARRL advertises this because they put a crap ton of money in their pockets....



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KD8IIC
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« Reply #97 on: June 08, 2018, 07:21:46 PM »

  Sounds like a fine thing for those who are shack/antenna limited but have internet access.
  Might be good from a mobile device too. Resthome types could get bk on the air.
  Han radio should be a fun hobby, not an argument.  Times have changed and will not go bk.
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« Reply #98 on: June 13, 2018, 10:16:33 AM »

183,000 views strong. Probably one of the largest threads on eham ever. Whoda thunk it. Stop n Shop will be having airtime on sale next week. $1.99/lb

ARRL advertises this because they put a crap ton of money in their pockets....





Fast forward 6 years... N1CX, whatever became of this? I see remote stations renting air time, am I wrong to guess it was proven to be legal?
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N1CX
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« Reply #99 on: June 13, 2018, 05:12:35 PM »

Don't think a single thing has changed and that comments here from proponents and opponents both reflect views of this today IMO.

There's as many arguments of it's legality as it's illegality. The FCC seems to have turned a blind eye to it. The ARRL profits and its worth alot of money in advertising to them. As it is to some ham sites too. Of course they will advocate for it because of the green factor alone.

My view is these guys have a pecuniary interest in the operation of the station. That's illegal. Shouldn't be allowed because of this.

Ham Radio is on sale next week 1.99/min........

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KE2TR
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« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2018, 07:28:53 AM »

You are one of the old fart type's out there, the folks you are talking about and many other who have brought about remote operation have been doing this for years, As far as a fee for pay and use a world class station well many who do already have a good station yet they want the experience of operating a world class station on the furthest most part of the east coast, kind of like operating at VY2ZM place but without going there but yet you have a very small mind and want to keep things just the way they were in this hobby 30 years back.
As far as the DXCC goes I gave up on that honor roll BS about 20 years ago when I found out that a few members of the LIDXA had forged cards from a QSL manager they knew from a 9M8 I worked LP on 75 meters, after that I gave up on that crap and got into contesting with which computer hardware became allot more truthful than some cards that the ARRL had to approve for country credits.
As far as should it be credited I personally don't care, if the ARRL says its OK then it is but to me I would not do it that way until it was time I could not have any station because of HOA's or something else.
I find it funny that N1CX is not credited to build nothing yet he claims to be a big tower guy were the fellows who built RHR are first class tower guys, they have the know how and the ability to build world class stations and have invested way over millions of dollars in theses stations yet we have this jealous little minded ham who complains about furthering the radio art just because it's a remote station and someones got to pay the electrical bill, pay for the towers, the land, the radio's and were its all housed but his small mind cannot wrap around this that there is a rental fee for all this hardware yet its really petty jealousy on N1CX's part.
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N1CX
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« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2018, 06:22:04 PM »

Nice personal attack.

Act your age not your shoe size.
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W4KVW
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« Reply #102 on: August 09, 2018, 05:38:12 PM »

I would suggest if you are against such activity that you NOT take part in it.It will make you feel better I'm sure.Appears that some here are upset that nobody wants access to their station so they may operate it. LOL I don't want anyone using mine but me & a couple of local friends & they have great setups as well & have no need of my station setup. Cool Roll Eyes Huh Grin Cheesy

Clayton
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K0UA
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« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2018, 09:46:35 AM »

OK, well here are my thoughts.  I don't operate any remote stations, but if someone wants to set on up and charge for it and if someone wants to use it, I am fine with it.  I don't care to, at least at this point in time, but that could change as I get older and might lose my own very modest station.  I don't understand the hatred against this type of operation, and I sure as he77 don't understand this hatred of the the ARRL.

Why do some people think they have the inside track on what Ham Radio is or isn't? Why can't we entertain new ideas and see where these ideas take us instead of proclaiming them the "end of Ham Radio" as we know it.  Amateur Radio has always changed thru the years, just look back in time.  How many of your have cleaned the brushes on your spark gaps lately? Hmmm...

Yes Ham Radio has moved on and hopefully will CONTINUE to move on and evolve as time marches on and the old guys get 6 feet under.   So there you have it, put me in the I'm fine with it camp. Sorry if you don't see it the same way.
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AC7CW
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« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2018, 10:47:58 AM »

OK, well here are my thoughts.  I don't operate any remote stations, but if someone wants to set on up and charge for it and if someone wants to use it, I am fine with it.  I don't care to, at least at this point in time, but that could change as I get older and might lose my own very modest station.  I don't understand the hatred against this type of operation, and I sure as he77 don't understand this hatred of the the ARRL.

Why do some people think they have the inside track on what Ham Radio is or isn't? Why can't we entertain new ideas and see where these ideas take us instead of proclaiming them the "end of Ham Radio" as we know it.  Amateur Radio has always changed thru the years, just look back in time.  How many of your have cleaned the brushes on your spark gaps lately? Hmmm...

Yes Ham Radio has moved on and hopefully will CONTINUE to move on and evolve as time marches on and the old guys get 6 feet under.   So there you have it, put me in the I'm fine with it camp. Sorry if you don't see it the same way.

Don't put all old guys in the same basket. I'm three quarters of a century on this planet and terribly interested in the new technology. Some personality types cannot change their original thinking and values and some have open opinions their entire lives. Some professions [medicine is the worst] attract personalities that cannot change their opinions and generations have to die off before change can be brought but high tech isn't quite so plagued with them.
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