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Author Topic: What makes "old" or "vintage" expensive?  (Read 99939 times)
AC5UP
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« Reply #90 on: January 17, 2015, 03:50:21 PM »

As much as I admire the "mechanicalness" of a steam loco, there is a certain charm to the GG1...



Fast, reliable, cost effective and I say visually striking.  Must be the Art Deco thing................  Wink
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« Reply #91 on: January 18, 2015, 12:15:05 AM »

>there is a certain charm to the GG1...<

Especially when they can't stop, over-run and end up dropping through the concourse into the basement baggage rooms at Washington Union station.....

As one did on the Federal Express in 1953......
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AC5UP
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« Reply #92 on: January 18, 2015, 08:01:49 AM »

...which would never happen with a steam locomotive ?

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« Reply #93 on: January 18, 2015, 08:02:19 AM »

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I wish buyers would not reward such bad behavior, and effectively force _down_ prices for sellers
who attempt to auction high priced 'as-is' and 'untested' old gear that is of unknown functionality.

I don't understand why some bemoan human nature.   This brings to mind a few things like There's a sucker born every minute, caveat emptor, and last but not least, Due diligence

If you can't at least do these types of things you deserve to be separated from your money.
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« Reply #94 on: January 18, 2015, 08:51:24 AM »

So, then...

Where is the boundary between when we just shrug, give up, and call it unavoidable "Human nature"
and the boundary at which we attempt to begin the process of educating "common sense" into
a practice.

Should we all just buy any old car we want for any inflated price and simply
shrug and call it "human nature" that we're going to pay more than we should?

We would not support or rationalise failing to educate our children in the common sense realities
of how buying a new or used car and making sure that no more money was spent than necessary.....

Why should we behave differently when buying a secondhand radio, and simply shrug and call whatever happens an unavoidable part of "human nature" ??

Shouldn't we espouse the concept of applying common sense at all times, or only in certain specific buying/selling transactions?

Optimistically expecting common sense to be used whenever possible would leave only a smaller group of buyers and sellers out there, aisde from the small percentage that still don't listen and are greedy.

I don't think it's a complete pessimistic failure to promote the use of common sense in buying secondhand equipment.


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I wish buyers would not reward such bad behavior, and effectively force _down_ prices for sellers
who attempt to auction high priced 'as-is' and 'untested' old gear that is of unknown functionality.

I don't understand why some bemoan human nature.   This brings to mind a few things like There's a sucker born every minute, caveat emptor, and last but not least, Due diligence

If you can't at least do these types of things you deserve to be separated from your money.
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« Reply #95 on: January 18, 2015, 09:33:49 AM »


Why should we behave differently when buying a secondhand radio, and simply shrug and call whatever happens an unavoidable part of "human nature" ??

Shouldn't we espouse the concept of applying common sense at all times, or only in certain specific buying/selling transactions?

Think of it this way. Some people are caught up in what they want, and need it now. So the high prices get paid. Go to any public auction. You will usually see at least a few items sell for more then new price. And it is this same mentality that operates here.

Common sense should apply, but often that is the last thing on people's minds. But if you do use common sense, you also need the patience to wait. Another thing often missing. It took me a year to find the price I was willing to pay for a couple of used radios. In the end, I got what I wanted at a price that I thought was fair. And ended up with 2 fine radios.
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« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2015, 12:54:02 PM »

'5UP,

You certainly would not get one of that type of steam locomotive going through into the baggage room at Washington Union Station!
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« Reply #97 on: January 22, 2015, 07:11:37 PM »

And you know this because ??

Because you have compared the weight of the two locomotives... ?   Analyzed the structural integrity of the floor of Union Station to within seventeen decimal places of accuracy... ?   Calculated the exact weight and weight distribution that would cause the station floor to collapse... ?   Determined the weight of of the two locomotives to within +/- 12 ounces - and - researched the water and fuel load of the steam loco pictured at the time of the 'event'...  Then compared and contrasted that result to the aforementioned structural analysis........ ?

Is that what you're saying ??

If not, and your analysis is anything less than comprehensive, constructive, conceivable, compelling, concise, convincing, credible, conclusive and complete, then I say your speculative conjecture is inferior to my speculative conjecture.

Furthermore..............  I close with two words for the gentle readers of this thread to ponder:    +++   British Dentistry   +++



Harrumph.
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« Reply #98 on: January 23, 2015, 12:11:24 AM »

'5UP,

That locomotive was French, which is why it wouldn't go through the concourse floor at Washington Union Station - it would never have been anywhere near the US, let alone Washington! That accident happened at a Paris station, and I can't remember which one, but I think it was on the line from the south west.

Good for the loco - Washington is not a place I like to visit and fortunately, it is highly unlikely that I ever will again.
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« Reply #99 on: January 23, 2015, 10:11:54 AM »

Russian dentists are experts in fitting gold fascia onlays to cover rotten, yellow teeth.  British dentists? Are there British dentists?
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« Reply #100 on: January 23, 2015, 11:44:09 AM »

>Are there British dentists?<

The last one I had was probably either a butcher or a worker in a slaughterhouse in his spare time. The Pakistani I had some years later was good and very gentle: the present one is also excellent and a Kiwi, while the specialist I'm going to for some root canal work that my usual dentist doesn't have the equipment to do it with, is an Italian lady. Both of them have very good looking young blonde dental nurses.......

But they are expensive - I'm looking at about $1500 for the root canal work, and then my own dentist will want about $400 to put a cap on.....
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« Reply #101 on: January 23, 2015, 04:38:01 PM »

FYI:  In case anyone is wondering why I chose to include a picture of Amy Winehouse in a previous post.............

Whenever a topic mutates into train wrecks and the challenges of British dentistry,  DUH !!
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« Reply #102 on: January 29, 2015, 04:47:49 AM »

BLAME EBAY !!!
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« Reply #103 on: January 29, 2015, 06:40:55 AM »

FYI:  In case anyone is wondering why I chose to include a picture of Amy Winehouse in a previous post.............

Whenever a topic mutates into train wrecks and the challenges of British dentistry,  DUH !!

This thread IS a train wreck!
OK, now lets speculate why so many people have A.D.D.
I blame Monsanto and genetically modified food!  Grin
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« Reply #104 on: February 03, 2015, 05:57:52 AM »

So, then...

Where is the boundary between when we just shrug, give up, and call it unavoidable "Human nature"
and the boundary at which we attempt to begin the process of educating "common sense" into
a practice.

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  Was that a question or just a run-on sentence ?

It seems to me the price a person is willing to pay is probably a fair price for them . It is their money , their choice and their business . I for one feel no need to restrain my price to allow for some would be bottom feeder to get a "deal" . 

   Quit whining , pay up or pound sand !   Wink
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