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Reviews For: Icom IC-9700

Category: Transceivers: VHF/UHF+ Amateur Base/Mobile (non hand-held)

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Review Summary For : Icom IC-9700
Reviews: 59MSRP: $2099
Description:
A new release of an old favorite (Icom IC-910H) VHF/UHF All Mode Base Station. Wow - Well worth the long wait!
Product is in production
More Info: http://icomamerica.com/en/products/amateur/hf/9700/default.aspx
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N9SSU Rating: 2019-05-31
ICOM dropped the ball on this one Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
Lets keep in mind, this has a price tag of 2100 but not surprised to be seeing it on sale for 1699 these days.

The bad upfront. It has only 80 watts output on 2m. 65 on 440. That is a bird meter. I thought my bird had croaked! So I hooked up a cheap Chinese meter, guess what? SAME output. I contacted the manager where I bought it. (Not relevant for this rating). Their display unit did the *exact* same wattage, both bands. Seriously? Really ICOM? 20% & 14% less than the rated wattage from a high end radio? I understand quirks and blips from first gen radios. But this is a major issue and total BS. I expect this from cheap Chinese radios where there is no expectation of QC and where you do not lay out a mint for the unit. I will contact ICOM but they have no rep in my area. So off to corporate I go.

The fan grinds and is loud. Runs often.

1.2Ghz has been hashed out well by others.

Can't listen to the same band in VFO A & B? I knew this going in, but adding on the other shortcomings, the radio devalues even more.

Personal dislike. I do not like the controls, not intuitive, like how to change bands. Reading the manual does solve this issue and I did just that.

The good? Great receive. Great selectivity. SNR is awesome. Great touchscreen. Full of settings to make the most discriminating user happy. Solid case. OK size for such a radio.

This is the only regret radio I have *ever* had in my life. It is totally opposite in quality for dollars spent, compared to my 7610 which is the best radio I have *ever* had. I will not sell it, because I will lose my shirt. The thought of playing the "warranty" game by sending a larger more expensive radio in the mail is a scary thought.

I recommend you get it, hook it up to a BIRD meter ASAP. One that you know is calibrated and works. When you get low wattage output, then connect it to another meter/dummy load and verify. Hope you do it sooner than I did, before my return period ran out.

73
DF1AS Rating: 2019-05-21
Overpriced Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
This rig hasn't met a lot of expectations.
The 10-MHz reference input isn't a reference input at all. Drift is immense. Other than common the receiver generates more heat inside due to no convection. When sending all is cooling down first time. After 2 min. tx'ing I'm off ~340 Hz on 23 cm. I didn't had that so massive with the 910 or the 9100.
Ok - the fan mod is a phantastic way to decrease the drift. However, I don't want to mod a new rig. Hope that fan can be controlled by S/W and Icom puts in a menue option to define RX fan speed.
Bands are strictly limited to the Ham bands. No way to largely extent like 910 or 9100. The band scope is too small also - just 1 MHz. The R8600 can do 5 MHz. I'm working DVB-T on 70 cm with 1 or 2 MHz bandwidth, this is impossible to monitor with the 9700.
And yes, the old problem of controlling linears independantly from each other. Where's the band select output?
Last but not least: signal dynamics. A courageous approach, but direct sampling up to 450 MHz hasn't bit depths, oversampling, dithering as short-wave RX can do. Hope this will be improved, but that takes another few years. For now, 74 dB is the actual end of the flagpole. Old gears are better by 10 or 20 dB.
I don't undestand 5/5 votings for stuff that isn't and cannot be perfect. Even if in several aspects this thing is worse than old stuff. I give it a 3/5. For a lower price I would rate it 4/5.
M0KZX Rating: 2019-05-13
Good from afar but far from good Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
I received my 9700 in the first batch that arrived into the UK.
I had high expectations for this radio some which were delivered, but many were not.
I returned my radio to the dealer for a full refund after 3 weeks.

The great stuff:-
- Both transmit and receive audio are very good
- The way this radio handles repeaters is stunning. It's extremely easy to import every 2m, 70cm & 23cm in the country in to the radio. Accessing them is equally simple.
- The bandscope is responsive
- Great snr
- Runs cool (910 owners will know what I'm talking about).

The not so great stuff:-
- The AGC on 70cm is so sharp it can't handle all of the crud and splatter on 70cm. The result is that the AGC keeps on cutting in whilst you are trying to have a QSO, and then takes a second or two to recover . . . the result being you keep missing bits of what the other station is saying. Hopeless when working satellites. I repeated this issue when I returned the radio to the dealer.
- Drift on 23cm (I won't elaborate as this is a well known problem).
- Like the 910H despite having 2 VFO's you still can't have the two VFO's on the same band. Come on ICOM, this isn't rocket science other manufacturers manage it!
- Although the SNR is very good, the sensitivity of the radio is no better than anything else out there.

I spoke to ICOM UK about the problem on 70cm's and their response was along the lines of "what do you expect for a cheap SDR, it has all the same problems as the 7300". You have to respect their honesty.
G4RNI Rating: 2019-05-09
Very satisfied...but... Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
The preceding reviews say just as I find the 9700 - excellent but I do have one perhaps not so minor point of concern:
Every radio I've owned over nearly 40 years as a ham has always had a PA made with devices (transistors, mosfets, valves) rated at well above the maximum output power. Example, many modern radios use a pair of RD100HHF (100W each) or RD70HUF (70W each) devices for their 100W PA's, leaving a healthy safety margin of 40% to 100%.

The IC-9700 however uses AFT05MP075 LDMOS devices, one for VHF and one for UHF, which the manufacturer's technical data sheet describes as (quote) "135-520 MHz, 70W, 12.5V BROADBAND RF POWER LDMOS TRANSISTORS".

So, is pushing the VHF PA to 100 Watts, about 30% above spec of 76W @ 136 MHz, also pushing our luck? And the 70cm PA running right at the maker's maximum specified output of 75W @ 450 MHz appears to leave no room for a safety margin to say the least.

A point for concern?
DJ0ABR Rating: 2019-05-06
great satellite rig Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
I mainly use this radio for QO-100 satellite mode together with homebrew SHF mixers.
What I like most is the extremely good modulation with the compressor at level 1. The sonorous sound is a dream. Every station gives excellent modulation reports. I also like the integrated network server which makes a PC unneccessary for remote control. The IC-9700 complements the existing IC-7300 perfectly.
KC4THS Rating: 2019-05-01
Good weak signal rig Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
I pulled the trigger on the IC-9700 4/22/19. $1,899.95. This radio performs well on 2m 70cm weak signal SSB and CW. I was surprised with the internal preamp. I have check in with several nets on 70cm SSB over 250 mile from my QTH. I have received good audio and signal reports in poor band conditions.
My plan is to replace my ic-910h satellite radio. The radio has D-Star and was easy to setup. I know, the EME crowd is complaining about frequency stability when trying use WSPR. But I am not using the radio for MOONBOUNCE.
G4GNX Rating: 2019-04-26
Welcome new addition Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
I collected my new IC-9700 in the UK last Saturday and so far I'm more than pleased with it.
Audio is excellent and I can hear one regular station consistently, which has always been difficult with various other rigs.
Touch screen is easy to use and mostly intuitive.
23cms is a great addition and I will be QRV as soon antennas are sorted out.
I believe that Icom got it right with the 2 metre connector too. Traditionally an SO239 has been fitted for 2 metres, so for those using a PL259 it will be plug and play. For those (like me) who prefer an 'N' type, they've had the sense not to solder it in, so it's an easy unclip and replace.
One gripe for anyone who can't download manuals is that only the Basic (paper) manual was supplied with mine. For full operation, the Advanced manual is very necessary.
A new firmware upgrade was issued (1.06) just before I received my IC-9700 and using an SD card it was very easy to install.
For the price, I do think Icom could have included a carrying handle.
W0NBC Rating: 2019-04-24
Great Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
Have had the IC-9700 for almost a month now and I am extremely happy with the new radio. Having had almost every Satellite radio made and this one lives up to my expectations. Using it for Satellite only at the moment and using SATPC-32 to control the radio and it works perfectly. I also have the IC-7300 so it was very easy to adjust to. The IC-9100 was great Satellite radio but this one is the best I have had.
KC2FQ Rating: 2019-04-15
Wow . . . just . . . WOW! Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
Well worth the wait and so far it lives up to the hype! It's only been here a few days as it's only just been released in the US but so far I love it. The capabilities seem endless. I can adjust my transmit bass and treble separately on every mode? That's NUTS and I've only just scratched the surface! The receive on this is super hot even without the built in pre-amp on. I'm now pulling in stations I've never heard in the past. The scanning is fantastic and extremely versatile. The D-Star is even easier to use than on the 5100 and WAY, WAY, WAY easier to use than on the 9100. Go to Icom's Japan site and d/l FREE software to program the radio. Nice. I do have two tiny complaints and hopefully many more will complain so Icom will correct this in an update but it does not receive outside of the Ham bands. Yes, this was in the brochure but it wouldn't have stopped me anyway. Someone suggested it might be that way to keep the receiver nice and tight but I do enjoy the ability to listen to the marine and GMRS freqs once in a while. There is no cross band repeat out of the box and no instructions on it anywhere so I guess I'll have to wait for the hackers for that feature. One other small item . . . with all of the flexibility on the scanning it would have been nice for them to have a permanent skip feature for stations you want in memory but don't want to scan. You CAN do this but you have to mark every freq you DO want, leave off the ones you don't, and run it that way.