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Review Summary For : Bird 43
Reviews: 52MSRP: 265.00
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RF power meter
Product is in production
More Info: http://www.bird-electronic.com/
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N6MWA Rating: 2021-06-11
A good, rugged meter Time Owned: more than 12 months.
Used my Bird 43 with great success. I use one on the output of my transceiver. The other on the output of a linear Amp. Both have been in use for over 25 years with no problems. Tested both against lab standards (for fun) and the results are excellent. For my uses, the meters do all I need.
AC5XP Rating: 2020-09-25
Overpriced and overrated. Time Owned: more than 12 months.
To my opinion, the Bird 43 is the most overrated (and overpriced) RF wattmeter on the market.
I own mine already for many years, and I had the 30uA (Simpson) meter fail on me TWICE. The first one failed after only very light use of the Bird (and never at power levels above the rated element). Needless to say, Bird did not honor my warranty claim; a year had passed already. New Simpson meter: $100. Ka-Ching!
Of course, the easy way out would be to blame Simpson for this. I blame Bird though; THEY selected this supplier, and THEY should have found these reliability problems (and corrected them accordingly) by listening to the users over the years. And by doing proper QC qualification testing of this thing.

By the way; do not replace the 30uA Simpson meter with a Chinese clone. Although these Chinese meters are accurate (30 uA is really full scale), they are not compatible with the Bird elements. The reason is the fact that the Bird elements expect a specific resistance for the indicator meter (the so-called meter “video resistance”), and this video resistance is substantially different between the Simpson and the Chinese meters. So, if your indicator meter fails, your only option is another Simpson, otherwise your Bird-43 accuracy will be even worse than the initial out-of-the-box accuracy for this device (see my next gripe). Yes, I know: it is a hefty $100 for that new Simpson meter. Ouch.

Problem number two: Accuracy. Expect a 10% possible error with this equipment. I have tested the Bird-43 for different elements and different power levels against an accurate HP power meter, and this was the result: as much as a 10% error in the indicated power level! For a piece of equipment priced this obscene, I expect a helluvalot better!

Problem number 3: This is actually not a wattmeter at all. It is an RF voltmeter, calibrated as a wattmeter with the expectation that the load is always a constant 50 ohms resistive. (granted; this is a conceptual problem, not a quality problem, but very true nevertheless). You can easily observe this by yourself: Connect the wattmeter to a (good!) AM transmitter and terminate the whole into a 50-ohm resistive load, and start transmitting without modulation. The Bird will show the carrier power as it should (let’s say it is 100 watts). Now modulate the AM transmitter with a sine wave signal at close to 100% modulation depth. The Bird-43 “wattmeter” will still show the 100 watts. Huh? What’s going on here? What it should have been showing is close to 150 watts; (no, NOT 400 watts, that is PEP!!!), being the carrier level and twice the sideband power (sideband power is 25% of the carrier for each sideband at 100% AM modulation). Why is the Bird still showing the 100 watts? Because this is an RF voltmeter, not a wattmeter – the RF voltage envelope of a properly AM modulated carrier stays at the carrier voltage level on average, and that is what the Bird shows – the average RF voltage level across the load. Which of course remained unchanged for our (properly!) modulated AM transmitter.

How would a real wattmeter be designed? With a thermocouple, or based on a temperature probe that measures the temperature of a correctly terminated load. Of course, one could argue that this goes beyond the scope of the Bird-43, this equipment is intended to get a quick power indication without having to revert to expensive lab equipment or accurate dummy loads or attenuators. And you would be right, if you would argue that.
But I ask you – is THAT worth almost $400 for the Bird43 itself, and north of $100 for each additional element that you buy? Give me a break. Of course not. The Bird-43 - the most overpriced piece of equipment on the market. And, it is not even reliable…. See my first issue with this thing!

How to rate it? I was tempted to give it a one-star, but it sure looks cool in the shack, icon that it is. I grant you that. So, I will be generous today and give it a two-stars here. And that is more than it deserves.
SP5MXF Rating: 2019-03-01
Bird 43 is King Time Owned: more than 12 months.
For several years I have been a "happy" owner of Bird 43, then for comparative purposes I have bought more models: BIRD 4311, BIRD 4314 extended with the possibility of measuring PEP power, and a dozen measuring inserts, these are almost identical meters, differing in that the BIRD model 4311 for power measurements, PEP is battery-powered. This is not a practical solution, the model 4314 uses nickel-cadmium batteries and an internal power supply, while the charger with 220 V ~.

I also bought a model with a digital reading, BIRD 4391A

All the models mentioned above are more technically advanced than the basic model BIRD 43, above all they enable a relatively accurate measurement of PEP power, they are twice as expensive as the classic model 43

I bought some measuring inserts, at the moment I have 15 pcs.

Considering the value of the inserts, I decided to take care of their safety and order and purchased a special case for 12 inserts. The case makes it easy to maintain order, now I always know where all the "traffic jams" are. This case makes the inserts well protected against shocks or falls or other adverse external factors.

These are old and worn-out devices, they are 40, 50 years old and come from a depot. These meters were stored in poor conditions, exposed to moisture, mold, dustiness, low temperatures, exposed to shocks, often thrown, etc.

All BIRDs offered for sale are badly bruised, if they are not bruised, they have been painted. It is better to buy a battered than painted one, because in order to paint the housing, BIRD must be dismantled for the first part. If I had the confidence that a professional engineer did it, I would not have any objections.

The biggest challenge is the purchase of measuring inserts, prices are high, in addition there are a lot of sales inserts that have been repaired, because they are often damaged. In most cases, a calibration potentiometer gets inside the insert, so the insert after repair is usually calibrated. Those who repair them usually do not have adequate measuring facilities, namely: laboratory measuring equipment and engineering knowledge.

Be vigilant, quality does not always go hand in hand with the price.

The so-called. "Traders" usually do not know much about technology, but they know money very well. Because these inserts are expensive, the scale of fraud is big. Fakes that are very difficult to recognize are a big problem. Just change the cap with the word on top and we have the insert you want. The most wanted insert is the 5000H insert, that is for the 2-30 MHz range and max power. 5KW. It is enough that they will produce only the caps with inscriptions, and the insert they process, inside they modify so that it more or less correctly shows in the above-mentioned range of power and frequency, and cash earned. The customer will not know it anyway because he has nothing to compare with. NORMAL Nobody is buying 12 power meters as I did.

The whole page devoted to the repair of BIRD 43 inserts, and for the crooks the instructor on how to start processing is here:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/projects/bird-element-tour/bird-element-tour.html

The accuracy of the measurement of such a fake insert will probably be somewhere around 10%, which is the best DAIWY that I value for ergonomics, readability, convenience, but not accuracy. In that case, why do we need this expensive BIRD if the accuracy is not better than the DAIWY and the functionality is none? DAIWA is very functional and ergonomic. BIRD 43 is not ergonomic or comfortable, it is clumsy, almost armored and ugly, so ugly that it is "pretty" like Belmondo. The first impression suggests that it is more suitable for defensive purposes than for measurements. Because BIRD 43 is not cheap and is not so interesting, at least it should be accurate.

You can read more about my experiences with BIrd 43 power meters here using Google translator

http://sp5mxf.com/bird-43-thruline-rf-wattmeter

BIRD is a king, provided it is an original product, without interfering with the interior of the meter and especially the inserts

The Bird 43 wattmeter is a rugged, portable power meter with a practical way to change frequency and power ranges. Plugs are analog devices in which there is a certain dependence of indications in the function of the temperature which is not compensated. To ensure maximum repeatability, Bird 43 must be operated in an environment with very limited temperature, so-called. room temperature.

BIRD 43 has a very wide range of measured power and supported frequencies, its properties may interest us only when we reach the original, unprocessed and not repaired inserts, preferably not bruised. If we can obtain such a copy and especially inserts, then all its defects are of little importance. Many American radioamers have a BIRD 43 on their desk. In the US, this is an absolutely iconic meter, it must be in the vicinity of a power amplifier, eg KENWOOD TL-922, also cult classic.

The accuracy of the new power meter and the BIRD 43 reflectometer, including inserts, according to the manufacturer's declaration is not worse than 5%. My measurements indicate that on the original unprocessed inlays, the error does not exceed 2% at the end of the scale. When the inserts are new, unused and not bruised, this accuracy is within 1%, it is difficult to see the error visually. Such accuracy should completely satisfy the radio amateur, unfortunately used, original inserts, without the interference of the "golden handle" are practically unavailable.

Due to the high price of these inserts, the EBAY auction site is dominated by a group of several repairers and you can buy what they will find out. If we buy from someone from the case, then usually he has previously bought an insert from one of these "traders", then disappointed resells it further and the wheel closes.

The BIRD 43 power meter fits with the tolerance declared by the manufacturer, the problem is that there are no such occasions to buy new inserts and relatively cheap.

Buying a good EBAY cartridge is a great lottery, if it is not very popular, the chances are good, but such inserts as 100H, 250H, 500H, 1000H, 2500H, 5000H are most often remakes from other ranges and their accuracy is problematic, i.e. you spend money and each insert measures differently.

Business is not sleeping

BIRD is a king, provided it is an original product, without interfering with the interior of the meter and especially the inserts

The Bird 43 wattmeter is a rugged, portable power meter with a practical way to change frequency and power ranges. Plugs are analog devices in which there is a certain dependence of indications in the function of the temperature which is not compensated. To ensure maximum repeatability, Bird 43 must be operated in an environment with very limited temperature, so-called. room temperature.

BIRD 43 has a very wide range of measured power and supported frequencies, its properties may interest us only when we reach the original, unprocessed and not repaired inserts, preferably not bruised. If we can obtain such a copy and especially inserts, then all its defects are of little importance. Many American radioamers have a BIRD 43 on their desk. In the US, this is an absolutely iconic meter, it must be in the vicinity of a power amplifier, eg KENWOOD TL-922, also cult classic.

The accuracy of the new power meter and the BIRD 43 reflectometer, including inserts, according to the manufacturer's declaration is not worse than 5%. My measurements indicate that on the original unprocessed slug, the error does not exceed 2% at the end of the scale. When the inserts are new, unused and not bruised, this accuracy is within 1%, it is difficult to see the error visually. Such accuracy should completely satisfy the radio amateur, unfortunately used, original inserts, without the interference of the "golden handle" are practically unavailable.

Due to the high price of these inserts, the EBAY auction site is dominated by a group of several repairers and you can buy what they will find out. If we buy from someone from the case, then usually he has previously bought an insert from one of these "traders", then disappointed resells it further and the wheel closes.

The BIRD 43 power meter fits with the tolerance declared by the manufacturer, the problem is that there are no such occasions to buy new inserts and relatively cheap.

Buying a good EBAY cartridge is a great lottery, if it is not very popular, the chances are good, but such inserts as 100H, 250H, 500H, 1000H, 2500H, 5000H are most often remakes from other ranges and their accuracy is problematic, i.e. you spend money and each insert measures differently.

Business is not sleeping

Bird has the official competitors, who have set up companies for this purpose and offer alternative, completely compatible gauges and inserts. One of the most popular companies is Coaxial Dynamics, which has its headquarters right under the nose BIRD ELEKTRONICS, also in Cleveland, maybe it was former BIRD employees ????

I have come across these inserts and I do not have a good opinion about them, very large parameters scattering, each shows something different. Fortunately, I was not tempted by the lower price of the new Coaxial Dynamics I bought old, used, more expensive, but original BIRD. My friend and known DX'men got acquainted with the quality problems of Coaxial Dynamics inserts, referred to the manufacturer and after a long negotiation procedure, exchanged for a new "precisely calibrated". The previous very low power, instead of 3KW indicated 2.4 KW, the current "accurately calibrated" only slightly undervalues, comparing to the used original the difference in the area of ​​10%.

Is it worth buying a BIRD?

I became a "happy" owner of 4 Birds and 15 inserts. At least a few of these slug falsyfikats or modifications, while several pieces work flawlessly. In order to achieve this, it was necessary to have something to compare with, and because I had nothing to compare with, I bought myself this "comparison" in the form of such a large number of meters.

Until recently, I lived in the belief that my BIRDs are accurate enough. If BIRDs were new and bought from the manufacturer or in the store, they would probably be very accurate. The problem is more about measuring inserts, because the accuracy of the power indication depends on them. If it were new, bought in a store and not the other hand, accuracy offered would be enough for my radio-amateur needs. Having several BIRDs and a dozen or so inserts, I had the opportunity to check that every gauge or insert is different. Of course, after the new original inserts, these are as accurate as possible.

Currently, I have inserts coming only from a reliable source, they have been withdrawn from the operation of the Ministry of Communications, exchanged for more modern measuring equipment. These pads are in perfect condition, look almost unused, are very accurate, measured errors are usually less than 2%.

Slug elements purchased on the EBAY auction portal are a lottery and everyone works as he wants, sometimes better, sometimes worse and sometimes not at all. Without a proven power standard, it is difficult to assess what they indicate. Because I have in my laboratory workshop - digital power meters, such as the Marconi 6960B or HP-437B, I am able to verify the accuracy of the indications of their Birds and cooperating with them. Thanks to this possibility, I was able to complete very precise BIRDS, including inserts.

There have been numerous meetings of several radio amateurs and we compared our BIRD and DAIWY. The only conclusions that could be drawn from such comparisons is that most of them pointed similarly but nevertheless each slightly different. Which of these measures was the closest to the truth? it was not like checking. Often the indicator of accuracy was the price of the meter, the more expensive the better. This was not always true, although there is usually such a relationship.

Model 43, which has been sold in more than 150,000 units since 1952. It consists basically of a 7/8-inch measuring line, two "quickly replaceable" connectors (there are many types of connectors available), die-cast housing. Buying a wattmeter is just the beginning of spending money: in fact, the meter will not be measuring until you buy one or more inserts, elements, corks or "snails" for the power levels and frequency ranges you are interested in.

The most common frequency ranges are:

"H": 2-30 MHz

"A": 25-60 MHz

"B": 50-125 MHz

"C": 100-250 MHz

"D": 200-500 MHz

"E": 400-1000 MHz

For each of the above ranges you can buy inserts with different powers for full scale, that is 5W, 10W, 25W, 50 W, 100 W, 250 W, 500 W, 1000 W. For the H range, more powerful 2500 W inserts are also available 5000 W. For example, the insert labeled "500H" is 500 W, 2-30 MHz.

The inserts usually work satisfactorily outside the range of frequencies specified by the manufacturer, the inserts work more widely, the more powerful the insert is.

The insert should be rotated to alternately measure the incident power and reflected power. In fact, you need to change inserts frequently, for example, an insert designed for power measurements in the range up to 2500 W may be suitable for measuring the incident power, but may not provide sufficient accuracy and resolution for measuring reflected power and insert a smaller insert to measure reflected power eg 500W and maybe even smaller. For this reason, there are also available measuring lines in which there are two sockets to place the inserts.

Despite the passage of years, prices do not want to fall, it is like wine, the older the better.

Best wishes

Tomasz sp5mxf.com

M0ATV Rating: 2018-05-26
Spot On Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
I've just purchased my 4th Bird 43 meter today, having sold the previous 3 over the previous years, my mistake, I always end up coming back to old reliable Bird 43, I currently have x2 Avair AV-1000 meters in line, & yes they do look more modern & are easier to add to the shack line up, but both of mine were quite a bit out on alignment, the 2 Bird 43 meters I was previously selling both gave identical readings with identical slugs for the range being tested, a quick recalibration of the AV-1000's & they were showing identical readings to the Birds, so I say, grab a Bird 43, I just picked up this last one for a bargain price with 2 slugs one that covers 6m,4m & the other 2m, from a radio shop within 2 miles of me, this is a keeper now & I would advise you to look for one yourself, there is a reason these meters are still going so strong after so many years, they were built to last & are accurate with it, best piece of test gear in my shack.
W5KVV Rating: 2017-01-13
rugged & reliable Time Owned: more than 12 months.
Both mine are 80's era Motorola units. They are just as accurate as they were when new. Verified with my freshly calibrated HP8935 SM. Is that scientific? Nope. But it's close enough for Amateur use. Last time I checked this was an Amateur site.

These meters were the industry standard for LMR, however I think the wideband Telewave units are starting to overtake them in that arena.
KB1GMX Rating: 2015-05-09
Mine is now 43years old and still going Time Owned: more than 12 months.
Bought mine in the early 70s for land mobile work.
lived in the truck and van and carried to every transmitter.

Just a while ago I had the meter and three old slugs checked (calibration) and they were 100%
up to spec.

A very useful and durable tool and good with the right slug for any band you can imagine.

Earns a 5 for durability, product lifetime, and ongoing support. I suggest it for anyone needing to read power and SWR.
K9ILL Rating: 2015-05-09
Best I ever owned Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
For years Ive run a Dosy TC-4002 psw, I know, I know, Dosy meters are CB radio junk but at least their not MFJ's.... lol.
Last week I bought a pristene Bird 43 and a 1000 watt slug. My radio is a 100 watt Kenwood TS 850s into a 600 watt Ameritron 811.

The Dosy meter showed my 100 watt ts-850, dead keying 140 watts. The Bird showed 105 watts

Dosy showed my 600 watt Ameritron keying 470 watts.
Bird showed dead on, 600 watts.

I also checked my 200 watt RCI ranger 2970n2 with the Dosy and the Bird.

Dosy showed 240 watts PEP. Bird showed dead on 200.
I like the Bird because its simple, down to earth and accurate.

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Earlier 5-star review posted by K9ILL on 2015-05-09

For years Ive run a Dosy TC-4002 psw, I know, I know, Dosy meters are CB radio junk but at least their not MFJ's.... lol.
Last week I bought a pristene Bird 43 and a 1000 watt slug. My radio is a 100 watt Kenwood TS 850s into a 600 watt Ameritron 811.

The Dosy meter showed my 100 watt ts-850, dead keying 140 watts. The Bird showed 105 watts

Dosy showed my 600 watt Ameritron keying 470 watts.
Bird showed dead on, 600 watts.

I also checked my 200 watt RCI ranger 2970n2 with the Dosy and the Bird.

Dosy showed 240 watts PEP. Bird showed dead on 200.
I like the Bird because its simple, down to earth and accurate.
W8AAZ Rating: 2015-05-09
For me does what it should. Time Owned: more than 12 months.
I can't comment on current production as mine is probably 20 years old. Bought it new. Then new and used slugs as needed. It is not a ham meter. Thousands of commercial, military and aerospace users have them, for probably 50 years. As a simple portable, passive device, it more than meets my expectations. It is of course, not a mega-bucks lab instrument that you could not afford, if you must know whether your radio is putting out 50, or 50.1 Watts. Seeing some posters comparing it to something that costs a mint and comes up short, is ridiculous. I have a microwave power meter. I could use that to see if the HT is putting out 5.08 Watts exactly, hardly portable and useless for inline checks. If they were junk, they would have been off the market decades ago, as hams are a pretty small portion of their market. Don't tell me yours is junk if it is some hamfest special with a bunch of dropped-on-concrete slugs. Nothing used is guaranteed.

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Earlier 5-star review posted by W8AAZ on 2005-09-27

Look, just buy the danged BIRD and be happy! 'Nuff said!The rest of this is just fluffery. Then swap trade or haggle to get the slugs you need. Or bite the bullet, grimace, and pay full ticket for them. If getting a used one, get a clean sharp one and you will not lose money on it. I bit the bullet and got mine new. Price always goes up and I lose nothing. Got some used and new slugs. Just does the job perfectly, and everyone wants to borrow it! You can tell who your friends are by whom you trust with it. Import and economy meters are good and all, for casual testing, but the Bird is at the top of the heap and everyone knows it. Worth the price, it is the Rolex of power meters. Not the most expensive, or latest, or hi tech, but no one will laugh at you or question your readings! Get a good quality 50 ohm load too. Not some crummy cantenna or something. Will get you respect!
RFEXPERT Rating: 2014-12-25
The Best Standard Time Owned: more than 12 months.
Where do I begin. Well I own about 5 Bird 43's, 4410A and 4431. I was in paradise being able to measure power on all ham bands. Then all my friends started telling me about and making me jealous about all the new digital meters. The LP100A, PowerMaster, Alpha and the Meterbuilder meters.

Well I own all these meters now. So whats the conclusion? All the digital meters I hate and dont trust. Why dont I trust them? Well they accurate sure enough on CW. They do what they do well enough, however they have their problems

1. All of them suffer from RFI problems on the power supply.
2. All are Jerky and jump all over the place as they measure power. Even on PEP
3. All of them cant handle a tuning up pulser properly. Or a string of CW dits.
4. All of them need a power pack(messy)
5. Features overkill that you dont need when just operating. If you a lab its a different matter.

Now after fiddling around with all these all singing and dancing meters, and being very disappointed about how they work, I pulled out my Bird 43 with PEP adapter.

I could pulse tune my amp. The PEP hang time was perfect. It detected any little amp glitch. I can squeeze every watt out of my amp under pulse tune and the analogue needle followed my modulation in sync. A perfect wattmeter station monitor. I was in heaven, I did not have to think about what the meter was reading. It was absolute and 100% correct. The Bird 43 just works and works without all the hyped up BS features.

Another trick to prove how good the Bird. Try running a string of dits for a long time at 40 wpm CW. Adjust the power up and down and watch how your fantastic digital meter misses all these tiny power adjustments. Same goes with a tuning pulser, its useless on a digital meter.


Now people whine about accuracy, slugs and about this and that. Its a one time investment and once you have invested there is no going back or further investment. Who really cares if its 10%,8% or 7%, its accurate and close enough. You wont get this accuracy on SSB modulation voice peaks on any of the digital meters. On The Bird43 with peak adapter because of meters ballistics its more accurate than all these digital wonder meters. If I wanted a NIST accurate meter I would buy a Agilent, Boonton or Rohde wattmeter. If the FCC comes around for a station inspection they will use a Bird 43, say no more!

All I need a wattmeter for is tuning the Amp, SWR and ensuring I am legal. The Bird 43 does all this 100% perfectly and in a 100% reliable manner.
Its also an intuitive station monitor whose needle habits you learn. If the Needle wiggle is bit down check the settings. The digital meters autorange and change as you go long from day to day. You never sure what you are reading without pushing buttons and menus all day.

Dont make the mistake I did wasting 8 months of my life fiddling with digital meters. Just use a Bird 43 and you will be OK till you 6ft under!

I am happy to welcome back my old faithful friend the Bird 43. Dont be a fool and remove a Bird 43 off your operating desk. It will be the biggest mistake you make. Digital meters have their place however they are no match for convenience, accuracy and simplicity of a Bird 43.
I am so glad I re-dsicovered by Bird 43. All my digital wattmeters have gone back in their boxes and I will pull them out when I need a job as wattmeter feature tester. Life is just too short for playing around with meters that have millions of features, are not very good at reading peak power or have all sorts of other issues.

My advice is not to get rid of your Bird meter to replace it with a digital meter. The Bird 43 will match it and then some! The proverb "A Bird 43 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush" is absolutely right.
W1BG Rating: 2014-10-15
Rugged & Reliable Time Owned: more than 12 months.
Over the 40+ years I spent in and out of the 2-way servicing business, it never mattered what shop I worked for or whether they were an independent, or an MSS, or private industry supporting their own commercial systems - in every shop and without exception THE STANDARD wattmeter was (and likely still is today) the Bird 43 (or one of its newer siblings). Bouncing around in service vans, in & out of the trunks of emergency vehicles, on board locomotives & frequently taken to ham club "tune-in/tune-up" weekend get togethers back in the early days of 2 meter FM, it was then and still is the most dependable piece of test equipment I own. No, it was not specifically "designed" for ham radio use; it was designed for *ALL* conceivable uses (with the proper slug), whether you were checking the power or SWR on an 800 Mhz mobile or a 2 Ghz microwave relay station, or a CB radio or a Ham rig. At one time (perhaps still today) an FCC field engineer would show up (unannounced) at someone's door, with his trusty Bird-43 in hand, to check for alleged over-power operation of a CB transmitter - and whatever the Bird-43 said is what got written into his report. Say what you wish, disparage them all you want, but I plan on carrying mine to my grave.