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Speak Out: 60-Meter Nets

A contributor states, "If memory serves, when I got on the 60-meter band over four years ago, the ARRL rules about this band advised against operating nets here. Due to Amateurs being secondary users, and that we use it on a shared basis. I've heard three different nets on 60M on 5.346.50 USB (CH-2). -- One EOC (Emergency Ops Center) out of Indiana, One EOC out of Virginia, and now a VHF/UHF group. Out of the five channels amateurs are authorized to use, only three of them are usable in my area due to QRM from different sources. Which makes me wonder why with us being secondary users, and having so little space on this band, are these nets being allowed?"

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N4UM on 2010-03-16
I'm not crazy about "nets" not related to emcomm on 60 meters since there are usually only 2 or 3 channels available at any one time. I think there is a reasonable basis for conducting emcomm nets on the band since emcomm was one of it's original reason's for being. There are lots of times when NVIS propagation (so valuable for emcomm) is not available on 40 meters. 60 meters then becomes a good alternative for 75 meters.

W1LVL on 2010-03-16
60 meters is an good mobile band. No need to compete with full lrgal limit stations on 75 and 40. The VHF Liasion use is nice also. I see no problems with net use,

WI7B on 2010-03-15

When 60m initially started to see some traffic a few years ago, a number of OMs would get on a couple of selected channels. Naturally the OM with the best ability to hear most everyone, or the greatest inclination to bring order to chaos, would act as a "net control". It occurred automatically.

The fact that this may have taken an organizational form could have been clearly anticipated.

73,

---* Ken

K4PDM on 2010-03-15
There is nothing in the rules prohibiting nets on 60M. In fact, 60M emergency nets were an anticipated use when the frequencies were opened to hams.

I hear a lot of ragchews on the band, most fairly brief, and some DXing. I also hear data transmissions on a couple of the frequencies, which I assume are governmental in nature and are not to be interfered with.

I do hear a couple of daily or almost daily roundtables for an hour or two at a time, but the hams are friendly and let others in to participate. Six hams on one frequency in a round-table conserves space when compared with three frequencies, each with a two-way QSO.

Have any hams ever been cited for improper use of 60M? If they have, I've missed it.

KR2C on 2010-03-13
K1FBI said....
Before you know it we will have the "Cheated All States Net" on 60 Meters with an EastCoast, Central and West Coast Net. Don't forget the 1 hour Pre-Net Check-Ins for all 3 either.

Spoken like one of those dopes who list their gear as "working conditions". Please let us know when you are destinated. :)

K1FBI on 2010-03-13
Before you know it we will have the "Cheated All States Net" on 60 Meters with an EastCoast, Central and West Coast Net. Don't forget the 1 hour Pre-Net Check-Ins for all 3 either.

"two-two, two-two, twenty two, twenty two, that's one two, one two. George, did you copy Charlie's two two? Oh great..that's a good contact!"

God help us all.

N5YPJ on 2010-03-12
I've always kept a radio on most of the time when I am in the house, monitoring different things like 2 mtrs, 7.195, etc., it sure beats having the cyclops on; when I operate it's digital mainly though.

Since this thread came out I've began monitoring the different channels on 60 and have heard some activity on the band. While my monitoring 60 is nothing scientific, from my viewpoint in West Texas using a low dipole we need to encourage users if we hope to keep this piece of spectrum. The band is largely under utilized throughout the day the only QRM I've heard is from non ham usage assumed to be from whomever we share the spectrum with. I wouldn't want to see contesters allowed but it is a little too quiet.

I still can't see why a net shouldn't be allowed down here as long as they aren't monopolizing the frequency with a round the clock net. IMHO the more we use this allocation the more likely we might in the future see further frequency expansions and other modes. Should we show limited interest, it will at best be five channels.

I think I'll see what it takes to get the dipole loaded down there and start chatting on 60 a little, give my old fingers a rest hihi.

K9XK on 2010-03-12
1) WB9QVR is 100%, correct as usual.

2) the ARRL does not make "rules"

3) It may not be a bad idea to "hide" a net on 60m instead of 75m, the home of hundreds or even thousands of W4s who spend all evening belching and farting into their microphones, all across the band. One of these days amateur radio will become semi-relevant again and it's only going to happen through emergency operation.

WB9QVR on 2010-03-12
A few points - first, I don't believe there are any FCC rules concerning what type of traffic (net, ragchew or otherwise) that can exist on any particular band or frequency. Attempting to regulate what conversational content can exist on what frequency (or band) would be a very slippery slope.

Secondly, although I can't speak for the Virginia group I can be reasonably sure that the traffic you heard from Indiana was our quarterly RACES test during which we test communications via 80, 60 and 40 meters (as well as some wide-area VHF/UHF systems). For approximately two hours on a Saturday morning four times each year the Indiana IDHS group in Indianapolis takes check-ins on those bands to test equipment and propagation. Therefore our 'net' occupies a 60m channel for a total of about 8 hours per year. I think that usage falls well within the guidelines of use for this shared resource.

One last observation - I don't know when you're listening but other than the RACES traffic I've noted above I've heard only ragchewing on 60m. Granted, I don't monitor it all the time but when I do I either hear no traffic at all or I hear friendly conversations taking place. I am not aware of nor have I heard any 'net' traffic of a daily, weekly or even monthly nature on that band.

K7UNZ on 2010-03-12
As a CW op 60 meters has no intrest to me at all. However, I just wanted to clarify a point in the original post.....the ARRL does NOT make the rules! They offer suggestions, that's it. Rules come from the FCC in the USA, and other countries have their own sets as well.

Thank you, and 73....

Jim/k7unz

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