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Do you approve of nets/roundtables/contesting on the WARC bands?

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nets/roundtables/contesting

I don't approve of nets/roundtables/contesting on any of the ham bands.
Posted by KD7YQM on 2009-10-04

Moot point!

There is no contesting on the WARC bands!
Posted by WA4DOU on 2005-05-01

huh?

What is "keyboard" mode?

N4GI
Posted by N4GI on 2005-02-02

WARC Bands

N2NZJ wrote:

"IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND THE WARC BANDS. as PROMISED it wud be a much better situation TODAY on the BANDS.we should ASK THE ARRL WHY THEY DRAGGED THEIR FEET ON EXPANSION OF THE WARC BANDS."

And here I thought that it was the U.S. Department of Commerce's National Telecommunications and Information Service Office of Spectrum Management who determined how the spectrum space was allocated in the United States. I keep learning new things all the time from N2NZJ!

NØIU
Posted by N0IU on 2005-02-02

Nets on WARC

There is already plenty of real estate for nets. WARC bands allow a healthy retreat fro those who wish to be free of nets and from the broadcasters such as K1MAN and the other clown in Wentzville, MO.

Leave WARC just as they are. Plenty of real estate for the ones who want to contest and those that would like to operate without the bulldozing of frequencies the contesters do so often.
Bob
Posted by N5JYZ on 2005-02-02

WARC Bands


Please, leave the "good" bands alone !
Enough already with nets,contests et al.
I (we)need a place to escape someone screaming "5-9 contest" over and over all weekend long ! Nothing against contesters, but 5 bands shud do.
73, K2JX
Posted by K2JX on 2005-02-02

I agree with K9NW about why contesting is lumped into this poll, other than the folks in charge of this site are leaned far over to the anti-contest group.

Other than Field day for a couple of years, there has never been a contest allowed on the warc bands.

Having said that, I agree about keeping nets, DX-peditions & contests off of the warc bands. I enjoy getting on 17, or 30 & ragchewing about the WX, QTH, & latest aches & pains with the boys. (Just a joke guys, I really do like ragchewing on the warc bands!)

73 & CU 30m!
oh, wait, that is a CW only band, I guess most of won't work me there after all!

Chuck KI9A
Posted by KI9A on 2005-02-02

I agree with K9NW about why contesting is lumped into this poll, other than the folks in charge of this site are leaned far over to the anti-contest group.

Other than Field day for a couple of years, there has never been a contest allowed on the warc bands.

Having said that, I agree about keeping nets, DX-peditions & contests off of the warc bands. I enjoy getting on 17, or 30 & ragchewing about the WX, QTH, & latest aches & pains with the boys. (Just a joke guys, I really do like ragchewing on the warc bands!)

73 & CU 30m!
oh, wait, that is a CW only band, I guess most of won't work me there after all!

Chuck KI9A
Posted by KI9A on 2005-02-02

Seems to me

that hams have a lot to say to each other. Let's put these discussions on the air and populate our frequencies. Use your favorite mode: cw, voice, keyboard.
Posted by WN3R on 2005-02-01

WARC Band

Let's keep contests where they currently are. The slower, less congested, pace on the WARC bands keeps them fun.

73, Bill, K7EY

Posted by K7EY on 2005-01-31

Contesting on the WARC Bands

The WARC bands are a nice retreat during a contest weekend. Lets leave it that way.
Posted by VE3TMT on 2005-01-31

WARC bands usage

Lumping contesting, roundtables and nets in the same poll is stupid. Roundtables are just ragchewing with more than 2 stations, and nets are not a real problem. The REAL problems are the mindless,stupid, brainless, idiotic, worthless contests that run us all up to the WARC bands in the first place. If you enjoy such activity as constesting, then fine...just leave the rest of us someplace to go to ragchew and work dx without the crapola and bedlam the contests cause on the rest of the ham bands. I have been a ham for 35 years and still consider most contests the biggest waste of time and spectrum on the air. At least with the WARC bands I and others have SOMEPLACE to go to operate away from the idiots that call "cq contest" on all frequencies without listening. PLEASE give SOME breathing space.
Posted by WB4TJH on 2005-01-30

WARC bands usage

Lumping contesting, roundtables and nets in the same poll is stupid. Roundtables are just ragchewing with more than 2 stations, and nets are not a real problem. The REAL problems are the mindless,stupid, brainless, idiotic, worthless contests that run us all up to the WARC bands in the first place. If you enjoy such activity as constesting, then fine...just leave the rest of us someplace to go to ragchew and work dx without the crapola and bedlam the contests cause on the rest of the ham bands. I have been a ham for 35 years and still consider most contests the biggest waste of time and spectrum on the air. At least with the WARC bands I and others have SOMEPLACE to go to operate away from the idiots that call "cq contest" on all frequencies without listening. PLEASE give SOME breathing space.
Posted by WB4TJH on 2005-01-30

WARC Bands

Do you approve of nets/roundtables/contesting on the WARC bands?

This really appears to be three questions:

Do you approve of nets on the WARC bands?

Sure, why not? So long as they do not violate part 97, what’s the beef?

Do you approve of roundtables on the WARC bands?

Roundtables are Hams talking to Hams. This is what Hams do, well, most of us anyway. Roundtables do not inherently violate part 97 or any "gentlemen’s agreement" that I know of. Is there a Band Plan somewhere that says, "No roundtables on WARC bands", or is this notion peculiar to a few individuals who want to impose their idea of Ham Radio on the rest of us?

Do you approve of contesting on the WARC bands?

No. There seems to be two kinds of Hams. Those that enjoy contesting and are tolerant and understanding of the contester’s mentality and those who don’t enjoy contesting or contesters. The WARC bands provide a haven for the latter group during some of the heavy duty contest periods such as the ARRL Field Day. The WARC bands provide the Non-Contesters with an excellent selection of frequencies.

I am QRV on the WARC bands. A lot of good DX seems to lurk there. But these bands never seem crowded not even during contests. One might conclude that those that complain about contesting, in general, are insincere because the WARC band utilization does not seem to increase - from my personal observations at my QTH.

73 and keep smiling,
Ray, AA7IH




Posted by AA7IH on 2005-01-30

Keep it as is

No nets, and no contests. Period.
Posted by K2KOH on 2005-01-30

Good Band

Roundtable discussions and nets go hand-in-hand. It is nice to hear just a few people on the WARC bands. Most ops are gentlemen like on 160. Very pleasant bands to use and it would be nice if they stay that way.

73 de YI9VCQ / KA5VCQ
Posted by KA5VCQ on 2005-01-30

WARC Bands

No Net/roundtable, No Contesting. I would vote to move all nets/roundtable net types on 40m to 7290 or above..and do away with all contesting except maybe field day..

W5KG
Posted by W5KG on 2005-01-29

WARC Bands

No Net/roundtable, No Contesting. I would vote to move all nets/roundtable net types on 40m to 7290 or above..and do away with all contesting except maybe field day..

W5KG
Posted by W5KG on 2005-01-29

No Contests on WARC

I don't have much trouble with the idea of nets on the WARC bands, I think they'd be pretty self limiting. Both of the QSO's I've had on 12 meters were pretty interesting - this is a sadly under utilized band, so an injection of new activity would be great. 17 meters is a great alternative to 20 meters in the daytime, but we don't need the 20 meter nets moving up there. The County Hunters Net and the packeteers on 30 aren't hurting anybody, and this band could tolerate some more of this kind of activity. But we don't need contests on any of these bands. They are a place for non-contesters to hide when the rest of us take over the other bands.
Posted by K0RGR on 2005-01-28

WARC bands

I don't see how you can stop round-table discussions on WARC bands, but I definitely like the idea of having bands in which I can go to escape the contesters.

I contest myself on some occassions, but I then sometimes I just like to have a general QSO or desire to look for the new states, countries or counties on whatever band. Contests make it difficult, of course, the more popular the contest, the more difficult it is to hold a qso.

I could live with contest-free zones on all ham bands. :) (flame suit on)

Buck
N4PGW
Posted by N4PGW on 2005-01-28

Warc Bands

Like many others, I think that the survey bunched too much together. There should be a question that asked us to check yes or no for each of contest, round table, nets and ragchew.

No to contest
Yes to round table
I don't know to nets
yes to ragchew
Yes to WAS or DXCC awards.
Posted by N4PGW on 2005-01-28

The not a contest

Next Monday night 01z to 03z. 30m. Call CQ NAC. I think you know the exchange. Post your totals on eham in the rag-chew forum afterward.

Can anybody tell me the difference between a dx station (or 3 or a million) dx stations calling cq and having pile-ups and a contest?

Anyone?
Posted by L1D on 2005-01-27

Poorly worded post

I agree with nets and roundtables as they are generally confined to one frequency within the band and are usually of limited duration. Contesting generally would render the whole band useless for "communications."
Posted by W6HB on 2005-01-27

No

No contests -- no nets -- keep it a rag chewers haven.
Posted by K2ROK on 2005-01-27

No

No contests -- no nets -- keep it a rag chewers haven.
Posted by K2ROK on 2005-01-27


Posted by VK2IMM on 2005-01-27

Keep WARC contest and net free

Come on -- the WARC bands are the last haven free from nets and contests -- there is no way we need to jam them full of such noise...there's plenty of khz for that on the regular ham bands. WARC is a rag-chewers paradise...let's keep it that way.
Posted by K2ROK on 2005-01-26

Keep WARC contest and net free

Come on -- the WARC bands are the last haven free from nets and contests -- there is no way we need to jam them full of such noise...there's plenty of khz for that on the regular ham bands. WARC is a rag-chewers paradise...let's keep it that way.
Posted by K2ROK on 2005-01-26

Keep WARC contest and net free

Come on -- the WARC bands are the last haven free from nets and contests -- there is no way we need to jam them full of such noise...there's plenty of khz for that on the regular ham bands. WARC is a rag-chewers paradise...let's keep it that way.
Posted by K2ROK on 2005-01-26

WARC BANDS

KEEP THE WARC BANDS AN OASIS FOR COMMUNICATION IN THE WEEKEND DIN OF "QRZ CONTEST!"
Posted by N1TKS on 2005-01-26

don't lump them together

Why put ragchewing, contesting and roundtables in the same category? "NO" to contesting! "YES" to ragchewing, roundtables and all around yakking.
73
Frank
KL7IPV
Posted by KL7IPV on 2005-01-26

Not just CW

The subbands are allocated to CW AND DIGITAL MODES. Don't try and tell me that digital modes aren't becoming more popular.
Posted by N3EG on 2005-01-25

LANDSLIDE/ NO

THE MAJORITY VOTES "NO" by a landslide the WARC bands to be FREE OF ALL NETS,CONTESTS,ROUNTABLE GROUPS,SPECIAL EVENT STATIONS,and ETC. that should end this survey. the results are overwhelming to PRESERVE the WARC BANDS.
Posted by N2NZJ on 2005-01-25

Warc bands

Sorry to agree with kn4vn just getting a
little fedup with earing every time you
switch on cq cq cq contest just leave the
warc bands out of the contesting circle.

Regards Neil
Posted by M1LMO on 2005-01-24

Warc bands

Sorry to agree with kn4vn just getting a
little fedup with earing every time you
switch on cq cq cq contest just leave the
warc bands out of the contesting circle.

Regards Neil
Posted by M1LMO on 2005-01-24

Warc bands

Sorry to agree with kn4vn just getting a
little fedup with earing every time you
switch on cq cq cq contest just leave the
warc bands out of the contesting circle.

Regards Neil
Posted by M1LMO on 2005-01-24

Warc bands

Sorry to agree with kn4vn just getting a
little fedup with earing every time you
switch on cq cq cq contest just leave the
warc bands out of the contesting circle.

Regards Neil
Posted by M1LMO on 2005-01-24

KI4ECW

20 meters is so busy with nets, contests, scheduled roundtables, and 'frequency guarding' that's it's not useable for much general ragchewing. Why not leave 12 and 17 meters for those who like a slower, non-scheduled pace?

A better question might be: Do you agree with the current bandplan of devoting about half all HF amateur bandwidth to CW?

If HF band plans are updated to reflect the needs and actual practice of 21st century hams, there will be sufficient bandwith on 10-15-20 meters for more contesting, nets, scheduled roundtables, and ragchewing.

Some bright guy is going to tell us about the ITU, treaty issues, FCC, etc. and give a dissertation on frequency reallocations. Give it a rest, we know that.

Alternatively, the guy who says he has "been a ham for 40 years and never owned a microphone" will begin extolling the virtues of reallocating more bandwidth to CW.

Let's just fight among ourselves and procrastinate another 10 to 15 years and we won't have to worry about it -- there will be enough unreplaced SK's to let the commercial interests take as much bandwith as they want and pollute the rest of the spectrum with BPL or something worse.


Posted by KI4ECW on 2005-01-24

KI4ECW

20 meters is so busy with nets, contests, scheduled roundtables, and 'frequency guarding' that's it's not useable for much general ragchewing. Why not leave 12 and 17 meters for those who like a slower, non-scheduled pace?

A better question might be: Do you agree with the current bandplan of devoting about half all HF amateur bandwidth to CW?

If HF band plans are updated to reflect the needs and actual practice of 21st century hams, there will be sufficient bandwith on 10-15-20 meters for more contesting, nets, scheduled roundtables, and ragchewing.

Some bright guy is going to tell us about the ITU, treaty issues, FCC, etc. and give a dissertation on frequency reallocations. Give it a rest, we know that.

Alternatively, the guy who says he has "been a ham for 40 years and never owned a microphone" will begin extolling the virtues of reallocating more bandwidth to CW.

Let's just fight among ourselves and procrastinate another 10 to 15 years and we won't have to worry about it -- there will be enough unreplaced SK's to let the commercial interests take as much bandwith as they want and pollute the rest of the spectrum with BPL or something worse.


Posted by KI4ECW on 2005-01-24

No Contesting on WARC Bands

Contesting is my primary interest in ham radio. However, I found myself doing a demonstration station for the Scouts one year when a contest took over most of 10 and 15M. It was kind of fun for a while, but I wanted the Scouts to have a chance to actually talk to people. So I moved to 17 meters, where we have some terrific chats with other Scout groups, and some nice DX.

I am glad there is a place for people to go when they want to avoid a contest.

73,

Doug K1DG
Posted by K1DG on 2005-01-23

Enough Already

Let's see ...

This has been hashed out in the Elmer's forum,
the Contest forum, the other opinion forum and an
article. How about the anti-net, anti-contest, anti-
everything-but-what-I-like crowd giving it a rest.

Shame on eHam for allowing this constant
whining and belly-aching on the same subject all
over the web site!
Posted by N3ZKP on 2005-01-23

WARC Bands

Since there currently are NO contests that I'm aware of that utilize the WARC bands, and I operate a lot of them, I'm not sure why contesting was included in this question.

What is the definition of a roundtable? If three or four of us gather on a frequency, is the questioner implying that we should QSY to a non-WARC band?

Don't see much harm in the occasional net occupying a frequency for a bit. Not sure how prevalent this is on the WARC bands.

There are likely more pressing concerns regarding the use of our frequency allocations.


73, Mike K9NW
Posted by K9NW on 2005-01-23

I'm DEFINITLY AGAINST nets/contests/roundtables of any kind on WARC Bands

I've been a HAM for 35+ yrs...I think the WARC bands SHOULD BE FREE OF ALL nets/roundtables/contests...They've had enough room-already
Posted by KC8Y on 2005-01-22

Contesting on WARC?


Why not just add contesting and BPL to the WARC bands. I
mean, it you want to trash it up, do it right!

N4BBQ
Posted by NY4Q on 2005-01-22

warc/TRASH

NO THANKS NO TRASHING THE WARC BANDS. just keep it to 2 way contacts only. KEEP THE WARC BANDS CLEAN PSE.btw I heard that 75 meters used to be a nice BAND AND WHEN WAS THAT I KNOW IT HAD TO BE AT LEAST 60 YRS AGO. cud some tell us when 75 meters was like 17 meters???????. 73
Posted by N2NZJ on 2005-01-22

Contesting on WARC

Hey.. i love contesting.. but amateur radio has many different types of stations and interests.. and out of respect for the people who just simply like to have a decent conversation with a friend or dx station without getting hassled with qrm.. then the warc bands offer them that opportunity. Besides they warc bands are small and just imagine the chaos if everybody starts cramming in. There is already plenty of room on the main HF bands.

Just my thought.
Kevin VE3GIB
Posted by VE3GIB on 2005-01-22

Contesting on WARC

Hey.. i love contesting.. but amateur radio has many different types of stations and interests.. and out of respect for the people who just simply like to have a decent conversation with a friend or dx station without getting hassled with qrm.. then the warc bands offer them that opportunity. Besides they warc bands are small and just imagine the chaos if everybody starts cramming in. There is already plenty of room on the main HF bands.

Just my thought.
Kevin VE3GIB
Posted by VE3GIB on 2005-01-22

Do I approve of it?

I don't see a problem with special event stations, nets, or roundtables.. why not? The space needs to be used, and it could be well used with the use of Nets and Roundtables and special event stations.

Contests.. well I work contests, but I understand there are those who don't.. so when we have a big multi-band contest, I understand that the WARC bands need to remain contest free..

Each to their own.. I have trouble tuning on 17 and 12 with my vertical, so tho I have been on 17 meters.. I am mostly on the other bands, and have made plenty of nice contacts.
Posted by KD5OWO on 2005-01-22

Happiness!

I'd be happy if we could just rid ourselves of stupid people.
Posted by NEANDERTHAL on 2005-01-21

Roundtables???

Why are "roundtables" included in the Mix?? Are you saying that 3-4 stations can't talk about a common subject on the same freq.? It sounds like ragchewing to me.........I think there's too many cheifs and not enough indians!!
Posted by N4ZFQ on 2005-01-21

my 2c

I don't have anything against contesting.

I do it a little bit myself and can
understand the attraction. But I like
to have somewhere I can go sulk if there's
a large contest in progress that I have no
interest in.

My opinion:
Contests, Nets: No
Roundtables, Special Event Stations: Yes

I think of Special Event Stations as
something of a "Poor Man's DXpedition".
You go and operate somewhere interesting,
but no one gets DXCC points. If Special
Event Stations are barred from WARC bands,
should not DXpeditions be, too? Their
operating styles are often somewhat
similar.

I worked a couple of the Museum Ships
on 30m and 17m last year, both on CW.
I don't think they were really disrupting
anything.

my 2c
Scott W5ESE

Posted by W5ESE on 2005-01-21

my 2c

I don't have anything against contesting.

I do it a little bit myself and can
understand the attraction. But I like
to have somewhere I can go sulk if there's
a large contest in progress that I have no
interest in.

My opinion:
Contests, Nets: No
Roundtables, Special Event Stations: Yes

I think of Special Event Stations as
something of a "Poor Man's DXpedition".
You go and operate somewhere interesting,
but no one gets DXCC points. If Special
Event Stations are barred from WARC bands,
should not DXpeditions be, too? Their
operating styles are often somewhat
similar.

I worked a couple of the Museum Ships
on 30m and 17m last year, both on CW.
I don't think they were really disrupting
anything.

my 2c
Scott W5ESE

Posted by W5ESE on 2005-01-21

Contesting

Sure... just figure some way of co-ordinating activity so that there are never contests on WARC and regular bands in the same weekend.

How about permitting Contests on the regular bands on the first weekend of the month... Contests on WARC bands on the 2nd Weekend of the month. Single Band contests on the 3rd weekend of the month. 6M and up contests on the 4th weekend. And the occasional 5th weekend Contest Free. That way you can always avoid contest if you wish, or participate, if that's what you enjoy.

We'd better start using those WARC bands other than 17... 30 is very quiet, and I hear a lot of "roger-beeps" lately on 12!
Posted by VE2DC on 2005-01-21

Nets/Roundtables/Contests

I'm very much in favor of nets and roundtables on WARC bands; there seems to be little activity there and the bandwidth is more than sufficient to accomodate some nets. But, I would like to see these bands remain "contest free."
Oh, by the way . . . I'm a CONTESTER.
Posted by K3YD on 2005-01-21

How about 60 meter contesting?

Man, talk about a hoot! Imagine a bunch of SSB contesters strapped in their Depends and hopped up on No-Doze, all piled into a few channels! Sheesh..
Posted by WB4M on 2005-01-21

No No No

Fine as it is now, please leave some space for QRP
Posted by PE1NPG on 2005-01-20

my comments on warc bands

Nets, contests, round tables, dx hunting..they are indeed the meat and potatos of Ham radio as many other modes.

The exciting part of this hobby is the fact there is something for all of us. Even those that join the hobby in lieu of professional help and enjoy jamming and bothering others.

Not one function is more important than another, BUT.... we need to provide options in operating.
The warc bands seem to employ easy going conversation. Round tables in my mind is simply a group of 3 or more having a conversation, and no formal organization.
A net has rules and procedures to follow, contests..well we all know about them, for the sake of my comments controlled chaos.
Finally DX again is self explainatory.

I agree formal nets, and contests should not be on the warc bands. Round tables just happen. DX is everywhere, but they should be sensitive to split operations.

special event stations in my mind is another aspect of contesting so I'd rather they are not on the WARC bands.

Emergencies ..any place any time never an issue period!

Now for those of you saying if ya wanna have a conversation use the phone or the internet..sorry, but Ham Radio aside from the technicalpart, is a hobby that encourages the art of conversation. I personally did not invest significant dollars to only experience "yer 5-9 what's your call again? again? again? good luck in the contest"

marty, ka7gkn
Posted by KA7GKN on 2005-01-20

NO CONTESTING OR NETS

Rid us of those stupid useless nets. No contesting on the warc bands also. Let the guys have some bands just for some ragchewing and not let those inconsiderate ssb contest stations parking 1kc away and ruining the bands for an entire weekend. Contesting to me is stupid. Everyone is 59 and you give your call. Where is the challenge in that? What does it prove other than one can stay awake more than the other guy. Leave the warc bands for the guys who enjoy a human conversation.
Posted by N3DRK on 2005-01-20

contest on WARC

i BELIEVE THAT WHEN THE WARC BANDS ERE OPENED THE CONTEST WORLD STATED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CONTESTING ON THE WARC FX. NO IF'S AND OR BUTS NO CONTESTING IS WHAT WAS AGREED UPON AND SHOULD STAY THAT WAY. GIVE SOME ROOM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RAG CHEW SPACE.BTW YR 59+ WHATS YR CALL AGAIN
TNX N8OM
Posted by FORMER_N8OM_NP on 2005-01-20

WARC bands and contesting

I think the contesters have held up their end of the bargin, but everybody else has failed. The WARC bands are UNDER UTILIZED. Therefore I propose that next monday night we hold the WNC, the WARC not-a-contest. Exchange will be name qth. Post your totals on QRZ.COM in any anti-contest forum topic.
Posted by L1D on 2005-01-20

No to contesting there

I am against contesting on WARC in general - but not for the reasons anti-contesters might think. IMO, the WARC bands are too narrow, and (selfishly) I'd need another tower for the antennas, and a new backup amplifier.

That said, I think there'd be more overall activity on WARC bands (this is a good thing you guys!!) if contesters needed equipment for them. Contesters are the most active hams around (you complainers have to admit that - or most of your complaints would be moot).

Those who complain about *us* are sort of like folks who complain about there being lots trucks and cars on the highways at rush hour, or when they go for their Sunday drive. Without all those OTHER people, there'd likely be no road.

Mike N2MG
Posted by N2MG on 2005-01-19

a few Hz of bandwidth

"Can't we have just a few Hz of bandwidth without fighting with contesters?"

Next phone contest go to the CW bands. For some reason, they won't be crowded at all.

Is that what you were looking for? Is that enough? Oh, you want more?

Mike N2MG
Posted by N2MG on 2005-01-19

WARC bands

What a stupid question! Lumping nets with contesting is pointless

My answer is yes to nets, but no to contesting

The WARC bands are a great spot for the people who dont want to take part in contest but want to operate when the contest is on. Having a few nets escape contest QRM is great

73 Fred

Posted by G4BWP on 2005-01-19

Huh???

I have to agree with the previous poster.....

Lumping nets and roundtables together with contesting is really pushing it. Nets and roundtables on these bands, sure--but not contesting. Contesting should be banned on WARC bands. Period.
Posted by K1CJS on 2005-01-19

17 Meters is a little haven of "real" ham radio without some KingPin running a net or a bunch of idiots yelling "contest".

Leave it alone.


Posted by WPE9JRL on 2005-01-19

No Thank You!

Please, leave us a little "wilderness" in the spectrum!
Posted by KQ6EA on 2005-01-19

WARC BANDS

NO! To Contests & Nets on these bands. Also, please tell me why no one is holding the ARRL's feet to the fire over the WARC bands not getting expanded? We were told in the begining (about 1979) these bands would be expanded in the next ten years. Well duh, it's been twenty-six years...HELLO!
Posted by N4VNV on 2005-01-19

WARC/EXPANSION

IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND THE WARC BANDS. as PROMISED it wud be a much better situation TODAY on the BANDS.we should ASK THE ARRL WHY THEY DRAGGED THEIR FEET ON EXPANSION OF THE WARC BANDS.
Posted by N2NZJ on 2005-01-19

WARC Bands.

Please leave the WARC bands alone. They are fine the way they are. If you put contests/nets on there we will have very little space to have some nice QSO's on the radio. It is bad enough with the regular bands and the pirates and illegal operators on the regular bands now. How would they possibly enforce any kind of rules on the WARC bands. The WARC bands are fine the way they are!

AB4PP
Posted by AB4PP on 2005-01-19

General Consesus

I think the general consensus of the postings is keep WARC bands free. I enjoy contesting but I also enjoy a place to clear my head. Soooo please, by gentlemans agreement,keep it clear of the QRM !!!
Posted by WA6ES on 2005-01-19

Quite a mix there...

You can't place roundtables and nets into the same group as contesters. I voted no because if you must allow contesters to co-habitate with roundtables and nets, it just doesn't work. Somebody will inevitably get their feelings hurt. I think nets and roundtables should be allowed (already are as far as I know), but not contesting.

-KR4WM
Posted by WY3X on 2005-01-18

As a contester, I think contesters should not be allowed on the WARC bands as it is now. As far as nets and rountables, that's a bit more complicated. When propagation is poor, we need as many potential frequencies for all of our activities. By the same token, nets and roundtables can tie up the bands and hinder calling CQ. But since you can't change the rules based on the cycles, I'd have to say ok to nets and roundtables. But since the question grouped the three together, I voted "No".

--... ...--
Doug K1RDD
Posted by K1RDD on 2005-01-18

WARC Bands

The WARC bands should not be used for nets , contests or scheduled round tables , i like getting on 17 and 12 when its open , to actually have a qso with someone. the other bands have plenty of space for all, i check into the Sunbelt services net on 3990 just about every evening. And also like working Special event stations. but if i just want to ragchew with someone for 10 or 15 min 17 meters is the place to be.

Tom Samacicio KB4HQA North Georgia
Posted by KB4HQA on 2005-01-18

What?

"Contests are already prohibited?"

That's not true at all. There are few or no contests that use the WARC bands, but they're surely not "prohibited" by anybody or anything, and at one time, ARRL Field Day did indeed use the WARC bands as well as all the other bands from 160m to light. That helped stimulate activity when the 17m band was first allowed for use in the U.S.

I wouldn't put roundtables and nets into the same category, either. Roundtables are usually spontaneous, unplanned events occurring at no particular time on no particular frequency. They just happen.

An "emergency" (real emergency) net should be allowed on any amateur frequency, taking advantage of the propagation available. But non-emergency nets are already plentiful enough on the non-WARC bands; I can't imagine how "more" would help anyone.

I'd like to see brief contests on the WARC bands, like "Sprints." Those are fun, short operating events that help keep people sharp and they're over almost before they start. I think most of the frequent WARC band users wouldn't mind, and might actually enjoy them. I recall in one Sprint of many years ago, the exchange was "signal report and what you ate for dinner," so a common exchange was "59 Spaghetti." It was really funny, and I can't imagine many band users minding such a brief, zany event.

WB2WIK/6
Posted by WB2WIK on 2005-01-18

Contesting on WARC?

I agree with KN4VN. Having a station with a compromise vertical antenna (HF6V on roof) I cannot compete barefoot on the mainstream ham bands. During contests, I flee to the WARC bands, in particularly 30 meters.
Posted by VE7ALQ on 2005-01-18

yes & no

nets/roundtables: YES

contesting: NO
Posted by AD6WL on 2005-01-18

Ditto on AD6WL.
Posted by WA0ELM on 2005-01-18

Ditto on AD6WL.
Posted by WA0ELM on 2005-01-18

WARC/ FREEDOM

THE WARC BANDS TO MOST OF US.mean FREEDOM from contests, nets, special event stations and round tables and ETC. good two way QSO's the way it used to be along time ago we don't want the WARC bands turning into the way some other BANDS have GONE example 75 METERS and some PORTIONS of 20 meters.the WARC BANDS should be WIDENED in the FUTURE. 73 TOM
Posted by N2NZJ on 2005-01-18

No contests on the WARC bands

All of us who do not enjoy contesting have to have somewhere to go when the contesting pandemonium erupts. I'v had some hams get absolutely irate when I try to start, or continue a qso during a contest. I'm not going to move when these "Big Time Operators" want to use the frequency I'm already using for their contesting. ARRL: pay attention to this, or you may not have so many members to depend on, when you need them.
Posted by W4FJF on 2005-01-18

Contesting on WARC?

Oh please. Can't we have just a few Hz of bandwidth without fighting with contesters? Just a little? Can't you cut us a little slack? Are we asking too much?

KN4VN
Posted by KN4VN on 2005-01-17

WARC Bands

I voted "What are the WARC bands?" because the question is flawed. It's kinda like asking, "Do you drive to work, or bring your lunch?". I'm an avid contester, but I would not want to see contest activity on the WARC bands. As for nets and roundtables? Sure, I think there will still be room. To the person who wrote this question.....Bad Troll, Bad Troll. You caught one with the very first response!
73, Bob N2NFG
Posted by N2NFG on 2005-01-17

NO WE DON'T NEED ANY NETS,CONTESTING.SPECIAL EVENT STATIONS.or any other MISC. ACTIVITY.we do need more bandwidth on the WARC bands. that won't HAPPEN MIKE WON'T GIVE US 1KHZ MORE.73
Posted by N2NZJ on 2005-01-17

- it's too late, especially considering nets are on the WARC bands now...
Posted by LNXAUTHOR on 2005-01-17

Contests, NO! Nets/Roundtables-OK!

Nothing wrong with nets/roundtables on the WARC bands. Contests are already prohibited. To the complainers, get a life!
Posted by NEANDERTHAL on 2005-01-17

Yes to contesting

If it weren't for contesting the ham bands would be long gone to the commercial interests.
Posted by L1D on 2005-01-17

OH Nooooooo

Those dam roundtablers on 30 meters are at it again!
Posted by X-WB1AUW on 2005-01-17